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04-14-2011, 02:16 PM   #1
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A serious compact from Pentax

Pentax has a great name for innovation and where it can, taking the lead in development. However I'm still waiting for a truly serious compact camera that will compete with the Canon G10/11 etc range of cameras.

Something that will shoot Raw, has a good zoom, ISO range and great sensor and lens. I'm not saying the existing range is bad, just that the gap between my DSLR (K5) and the current compact range seems too wide to feel comfortable. Something in the 300 - 500 bracket would be ideal.

Is it too much to expect to have a camera that fits into my pocket that does not totally compromise the flexibilty offerd by a DSLR?

Pentax - do you have an answer or have I missed something in your current range? If so I'd happily receive recommendations

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QuoteOriginally posted by nightjockey Quote
Pentax has a great name for innovation and where it can, taking the lead in development. However I'm still waiting for a truly serious compact camera that will compete with the Canon G10/11 etc range of cameras.

Something that will shoot Raw, has a good zoom, ISO range and great sensor and lens. I'm not saying the existing range is bad, just that the gap between my DSLR (K5) and the current compact range seems too wide to feel comfortable. Something in the 300 - 500 bracket would be ideal.

Is it too much to expect to have a camera that fits into my pocket that does not totally compromise the flexibilty offerd by a DSLR?

Pentax - do you have an answer or have I missed something in your current range? If so I'd happily receive recommendations
I don't think you have missed anything at all.. The compact range is definitely either at the lower end or specialist waterproof/weatherproof.

I also would really like Pentax to do a high end compact with a larger sensor size, full range of exposure modes, nice fast lens (short zoom or fixed focal length would be fine) and some features to differentiate themselves a bit. Given their differentiators in the DSLR market then they could go with smaller size and weather resistant.

The Canon S95 is the only truly compact 'enthusiast' model - and I don't think any of them have WR.
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Well, I can say that here, in Estonia, people don't want to get G11/12 they buy their lower end digital compacts or DSLR and I guess one of 200 buys a hybrid. I guess we are just below the timeline
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Well, I can say that here, in Estonia, people don't want to get G11/12 they buy their lower end digital compacts or DSLR and I guess one of 200 buys a hybrid. I guess we are just below the timeline
Maybe it's just a British thing then

Apparently the UK is one of the most active markets for MILCs at the moment..

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I was looking for just what you speak and settled for the x90 with a small sensor. Sony had done it, Nikon has one, I guess you could count the G series of Canon in there too of making a small camera with decent quality lens and a large sensor. My next camera will be one of the new generations of big sensor, small cameras but not wanting the very first models out of the new kinds of cameras as I am so prone to do and regret as just a year later here comes a better one for less I am using the x90 Pentax and my DSLR Canon since my S1 Canon mysteriously bit the dust after leaving it at a friend's house where it was accessed by young ones who probably dropped it a few times.

X90 has a lot of good points and bad but for now is my somewhat small camera although the lens is big a chunky so it won't slip into a pocket.

Surely Pentax is in development of a new generation compact with a large sensor. As I have read the megapixels mean very little for what I want to do...6mp is just fine but the physical size of the sensor is very important and cramming 12/14 mp onto a small one is counter productive.

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G11 isnt pocketable, sadly, and the s95 doesnt have enough zoom for me. I'm currently looking at the finepix f550 (16mp, way too much) but I wish Pentax would just do it, ya know?
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QuoteOriginally posted by kyteflyer Quote
G11 isnt pocketable, sadly, and the s95 doesnt have enough zoom for me. I'm currently looking at the finepix f550 (16mp, way too much) but I wish Pentax would just do it, ya know?
I gave my other half my Panasonic GF-1 - and I think I would miss the image quality if I went for one of the 'enthusiast compacts'.

Had a quick play with a GF-2 this weekend - much smaller - easily smaller than G11/12. I might just have to get one with the little 14mm pancake.

Come on Pentax - you're missing out here..
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QuoteOriginally posted by mplatt1903 Quote
Had a quick play with a GF-2 this weekend - much smaller
Is it that much smaller than the GF1? I looked at the GF1 yesterday and found it still too bulky. Was considering a GF with a 20mm. But.. the size defeated me.

Bought the F550 this morning, after all. Got a good price.. oh well. Its not got the IQ of many of the others but I think it will be better than my old TZ7, which was my previous pocketable.

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QuoteOriginally posted by kyteflyer Quote
Is it that much smaller than the GF1? I looked at the GF1 yesterday and found it still too bulky. Was considering a GF with a 20mm. But.. the size defeated me.
It may be psychological, but it certainly feels it - it's supposedly 19% smaller - but it feels a lot smaller than that when you hold it. Enough of a difference to make it feel more like the LX5 than the GF-1..
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Pentax should redo there 110 system, The 4/3 sensor is the perfect size for the old format.

Just update the bodys, (lcd on the back.. and stuff) keep the optical view finder.. make a better aperture system that's more rounded and can support faster than f2.8 lens and we are good to go
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The market for such cameras is shrinking rapidly. I think Pentax is doing the right thing by designing mainly WR cameras, they are building a strong credibility in that market.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mplatt1903 Quote
I also would really like Pentax to do a high end compact with a larger sensor size, full range of exposure modes, nice fast lens (short zoom or fixed focal length would be fine) and some features to differentiate themselves a bit. Given their differentiators in the DSLR market then they could go with smaller size and weather resistant.
Say no more... enter the Optio WG-1, just released last month, available already in Singapore:
Waterproof to 5m, shock proof to a 4th story building (apparently ), has great macro capability (1cm minimum focus distance), and something else unique and the chicks dig: auto shooting when the camera finds a smiling face - that's right: SMILE DETECTION *without* the need to press the shutter release button!





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