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03-04-2018, 02:07 AM - 1 Like   #1
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Wishing for a GXR ii - as a Pentax Mirrorless

The Ricoh GXR concept was launch ahead of its time. It was quite expensive when it was introduced and was not patronized by a lot of photographers. It became highly recognized when the A12 M module was introduced, suddenly you can use all of your legacy lenses (not only Leica lens) via an adapter.

I think Ricoh made a mistake in dropping the GXR line. Imagine if they just created a bigger body that has a built-in EVF/OVF and a bigger hand grip than can take 24 Mp APS-C and FF modules. The Leica M mount can be retained and they can develop modules that can do AF on Pentax lens. The lensor (lens + sensor module) could be limited to a few modules such as a 28mm (or wider) and 50mm just like before.

For upgrades, you only need to buy the new sensor module with the latest sensor version available. But in the end this are just wishes/want and may never see the light of day of reality.

03-04-2018, 08:26 AM   #2
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It's an excellent idea. I think it would be a good option if you could buy a Fuji X mount version to use some of their great lenses. Pentax could even make it a true multi lens mount option for those who have lenses but don't want to invest in a new system.
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The Fuji x mount might not be possible or any other mirrorless mount. Those competing brands won't likely license their own mount to a competitor w/out hefty fees.
Since the M mount is a legacy mount and hence patents may have expired, that may be the key and Ricoh had already used it before.

The thing is, camera sales are dropping and having a body that stays the same and you upgrade the modules if a new sensor tech arrives makes a lot of sense. Very promising for manual lens junkies and photogs in their 40's to 70's who probably comprises the majority of buyers who invest on a REAL camera.

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I too think a GXRii would be a great camera. I have a GXR with the EVF and the A12 M module and I really like shooting with it. I am surprised they haven't put an integrated EVF in the GRIII body, but maybe it doesn't make sense at 28mm and for what people are using the camera for. I use it on the GXR to steady the camera at longer focal lengths, manually focus, and compose and review shots in bright sunlight.

I am considering upgrading to something else to get a more compact EVF and better sensor, but I like the layout of the controls and menus on the GRX a lot. And it is really handy to swap in the 50mm macro module if I need something really diminutive to carry around.

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Put the KP (or GRIII) sensor/processor in a K mount for Pentaxian & GR - GRX fans, and an M mount for the great unwashed..... Ricoh/Pentax has the foundation for a great mirrorless system, they just need to build upon it.....
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Oldish post I know, but still interesting.

I agree, a GXR II with built in EVF coupled with a K mount module (including IBIS and autofocus) would appeal to me, but I doubt it's going to happen.

I am primarily a Pentax user who, since when Ricoh bought Pentax, have taken an interest in Ricoh cameras. At times, their diminutive size is a nice alternative to the weighty Pentax cameras, especially as I recede into the my later years.

My foray into Ricoh began with the little known GX200 +EVF and subsequently original GR Digital and then version IV with its IBIS(!) In time, much as I liked these and still do, I decided to move up to the APS-C Ricoh GR and really took to it. A few days ago I capitulated and joined the GR III club! It is an amazing camera/sensor/lens combination. In between these I also investigated the GXR series plus EVF with a GXR and 24-72 full spectrum (for infra red) module plus the P10 28-300 module. Despite the small 1/1.7 inch sensors in these, they have much to offer but mostly because they give access to the GXR body and system. The recent addition of the 16 MP APS-C sensor 24-85mm A16 module offers good resolution and I am happy with the system.

The next step will probably be the last. I am looking for the GXR A12 Leica M Mount module* which I will couple with the Kipon Pentax K mount (DA) lens to Ricoh GXR M mount adapter. Put simply this will enable me to mount Pentax lenses to the GXR with full aperture control.

I remain a dedicated DSLR Pentaxian, but am so looking forward to using the Ricoh GXR with the eight Pentax Limited and 100mm WR macro primes! I reckon it's as close we'll ever get to a Pentax mirrorless with EVF in my lifetime!

* Should you have one to sell, drop me a message, please! I'm UK based.
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Its amazing that some people do think and want the same things and have a lot more in common even if we are geographically separated.

I still use my gxr from time to time and it is still my only mirrorless camera. The only module that I dont have is the A12 50 and the EVF. Both were missing when I purchased the system on a firesale at $400 brand new.
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I too wish there were further development of the GXR system- I'm also one who got hooked on Ricoh cameras by the GX100/200, but stayed with Pentax for large-sensor photography. I was getting ready to buy the DA 35mm Ltd Macro when I realized that I could buy a GXR+A12 50mm for about the same price as that lens alone and get pretty much the same focal length and optical quality, but on a sweet little Ricoh-style body! I also picked up the S10 24-70 and it really is to me an idealized version of the GX100.

I would love an updated A12 50mm with a more modern 24mp sensor. It's a fantastic optic though, I'm completely addicted to it. If they were to reuse even the 12mp BSI sensor from the Q7 in an updated S10 24-70mm model that would also be fantastic, you lose the CCD look but that one's a very pleasing sensor in its own right. An updated body with an EVF would definitely be worthwhile... I know I'll be compelled to buy the EVF eventually.

Part of me wonders about the A16 24-85. I do about 80% of my shooting at closer than 25cm, so it's just not for me period, but even I was someone else who didn't have that problem: the optical quality is really what concerns me, as a lot of reviewers were lukewarm about it. Optical performance is the big sell on Ricoh's best products. If it's not better than the surprisingly good standard kit lenses typical on the market today, then what justifies the price and weight (and lack of focus/zoom rings on the lens barrel), plus lack of either lens or sensor stabilization? I could live with lack of stabilization and control rings if it had great optical quality and had a collapsing lens design allowing for a smaller size, but nothing about the A16 makes me think "I want to use that."

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I wanted to “bump” this thread a bit, now that “Pentax” does not, based on their tradition and renewed philosophy, look like they are coming out with mirrorless, which is totally cool with me. That doesn’t mean that “Ricoh” cannot come out with GXR II to compliment the awesome GR III. Believe it or not, I still shoot with GXR quite often - it’s a cool little set up.

So, why not GXR II?Even just new modules would be cool. A revival of some sort. How about a monochrome module? How about a FF module with 35mm?

That would be so cool.
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An updated APS-C module with the "50mm macro" optics and a newer sensor would more than satisfy me. Or from another direction, a pocketable GR-style camera with a collapsible version of that lens. After all, the A12 28mm module has the lens from the GR and GR II. It would be delightful for the interchange to go both ways. I'm shooting the GXR/A12 50 macro and GR II side-by-side these days.
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I have an A12 but it looks like this:

It takes 120 film and fits on a Hasselblad 500 series camera.

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