Originally posted by er1kksen This looks like a fun theme so I'm picking through my small-sensor photos. A question though- I was shooting with Nikon 1 system gear for a while, which is a 1" sensor, so that would count- but what exactly do you mean by "no adopted lenses?" I figure that covers the Pentax M 50mm macro I used on an adapter, but I also shot with the nikon kit lens with the "guts" of a broken 50mm f2 attached to the front by a reversal ring. Does that count as an "adopted lens" too? Just curious.
The lack of decent macro capabilities in the native lenses for both Nikon 1 and Pentax Q were why I could stick with either one in the end, sadly, but I may have developed a minor addiction to compact cameras for macro as a result...
Good questions - and to be honest, I don't really have a clue as to the specifics - so if ANYONE OUT THERE has some inside knowledge or familiarity with the actual original thinking behind this interesting (but imprecise, to me at least) language - of 'adopted' lenses - then I would greatly appreciate clarification.
In the interim period, and before or unless any metaphoric old-timers chime in with an explanation, I'll give you my own personal interpretation:
It's clear (to me at least) that this is a competition for 'small sensor' point-and-shoot cameras - but specifically that means and includes cameras with a sensor of no greater than 1" for digital cameras. Your camera should be 'pocketable' and compact. By that definition, theoretically at least, either a Nikon 1 or a Pentax Q would qualify - whereas my older, tiny (and very pocketable) interchangeable lens tiny little Lumix GM1 - would not qualify, as its micro 4/3 sensor is definitely larger than the 1" limit. Earlier generations of Ricoh Digitals (including my tiny GRDiii) would definitely qualify - whereas later generations (including my slightly larger GR II, with an APS-C sensor) would not.
The interesting and gray area comes in the language of 'adopted' - which seems to only apply to smaller-sensor interchangeable lens cameras - like the Q or like the Nikon J1. My belief is that 'adopted' probably was intended to include any lenses OTHER THAN the original standard or kit lens which came with the camera. In the case of the Pentax Q, it gets a little trickier - because technically both the kit lens (the 02 zoom lens, the 5-15mm, aka the 'standard zoom lens') and the tiny 8.5mm prime lens which is also referred to as the 'standard prime' for the Q system - would BOTH qualify. But what about the OTHER Q lenses - including the fisheye, the wide 'toy' lens or the telephoto lenses - which were offered as part of the initial system - wouldn't they qualify?
My guess is that they WOULD - because probably (my theory) 'adopted' is a misspelling - for 'adapted'. As we know, a wide variety of Pentax K-mount lenses can be used with Q cameras with an adapter - but NONE OF THESE WOULD QUALIFY OR BE ALLOWED.
Applying the same reasoning to your Nikon J1, any 'adapted' lens - like the Pentax macro - or any other non-J system lens, used with adapters or reversal rings or in any other way - DO NOT QUALIFY. Whereas your standard or kit J1 lenses would and do qualify - as would any other J-mount-only lenses which Nikon made for the camera.
That's my interpretation and I hope it sounds reasonable to everyone.
But if anyone has a different 'reading' of this 'adopted' lens language, I'd be happy to consider it.
Cheers!
Miguel