K5 video question?

PiDicus Rex · 12-14-2014, 04:39 AM

K5 owners, does this video adequately showcase the K5's Sensor Shift SR system?

If so, I hates youse alls, cos that smoooth.

LensBeginner · 12-14-2014, 05:35 AM

Haha! it's wonderful!
Technicalities aside, it's Christmas-themed... plus there are cats!!! :-P

Rimfiredude · 12-14-2014, 05:45 AM

I probably would shoot more video if I could shoot using the view finder instead of that stupid ground glass. I found I have better luck with a manual lens, but again, very difficult to focus with the ground glass. It is just a pain in the _ _ _ to use. The days of the super 8 were even better. I hate to say it but, Canon has it all over Pentax when it comes to video. Let's get into the 21st century Pentax.

Steve.Ledger · 12-14-2014, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by PiDicus Rex

K5 owners, does this video adequately showcase the K5's Sensor Shift SR system?

Could be using a Sigma lens with OS?
But yeh, my K-7 IBIS in video was smooth.

kadajawi · 12-19-2014, 07:55 PM

Originally posted by PiDicus Rex

K5 owners, does this video adequately showcase the K5's Sensor Shift SR system?

If so, I hates youse alls, cos that smoooth.

Mh... looks to me like SR is off. It's not that smooth, and at one point I miss the way the SR bounces back. So I'd say a combination of a rather wide lens and no crop, rather than SR. Also: Aaaaaaw!

You Tube

That was shot with SR on, 50mm, the weight was on the left palm while the fingers on the left hand focused. The right hand was above the camera, trying to shield the microphone, all while people bumped into me. There's more on my channel, including footage shot at 200mm (where the SR system struggles).

Another video...

You Tube

Nothing special, unedited and untouched. DA 50mm 1.8, SR on + cat. Try to see if you can hear the SR system working... sounds more like normal noise to me.

Steve.Ledger · 12-19-2014, 09:06 PM

Rufus is due for a visit to the vet...

kadajawi · 12-19-2014, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by Steve.Ledger

Rufus is due for a visit to the vet...

Huh? Why?

Steve.Ledger · 12-20-2014, 12:46 AM

Time to have his jewels removed..

kadajawi · 12-20-2014, 03:23 AM

Oh. I thought they are gone already...

Steve.Ledger · 12-20-2014, 03:44 AM

LOL! Then he has some serious looking hemorrhoids.. Check at 00:46

PS: I did not intend for my comment to take this thread off-topic, sorry Stewart

kadajawi · 12-20-2014, 03:50 AM

Originally posted by Steve.Ledger

LOL! Then he has some serious looking hemorrhoids.. Check at 00:46

PS: I did not intend for my comment to take this thread off-topic, sorry Stewart

Aaaah... I just checked with the owner, yup, it will be his Christmas present. Poor cat.

Any comments on the SR?

Steve.Ledger · 12-20-2014, 05:55 AM

Originally posted by kadajawi

Any comments on the SR?

Yes, it is how I remember my K-7. Nice and fluid, but watch out for the recoil

As a comparison, here's one of my cats (desexed) shot with the K-50 with MovieSR off using the Sigma 17-70 Macro HSM OS lens with OS off at first and then switched on.
This lens is my solution to the horrid MovieSR.

You Tube

kadajawi · 12-20-2014, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by Steve.Ledger

Yes, it is how I remember my K-7. Nice and fluid, but watch out for the recoil

As a comparison, here's one of my cats (desexed) shot with the K-50 with MovieSR off using the Sigma 17-70 Macro HSM OS lens with OS off at first and then switched on.
This lens is my solution to the horrid MovieSR.

Pentax K-50 - No OS v OS - YouTube

Looks good.

As for the recoil, that's depending on the settings. The K-5 has a pretty big range of motion, which allows it to balance out more than (some) lenses can, but it is set in a way that it tries to smoothen more (because it can, I suppose). That leads to recoil (which with a bit of practice can be countered... at least when you plan ahead). It could also be set to filter out faster movements only, giving it a more direct feel, and less/no recoil. They could also implement some sort of "AI" to detect pans and to lock the sensor movement in the direction of the pan... so that that won't be smoothened (as much?).

It'd be up to Pentax to offer those options, though given that they wouldn't even activate the feature in the first I'd already be happy if they just activate it, with no adjustments possible.

PiDicus Rex · 12-20-2014, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by Steve.Ledger

PS: I did not intend for my comment to take this thread off-topic, sorry Stewart

I has 3 cats,. so this OT side step is acceptable

Kadajawi: Holy snotballs that SR is good. I'd be happy with that performance on any camera, even the little roll-back at the ends of movements is acceptable - that eats the SR in my Canon XL-1 alive, and blows away the SR in my JVC HD-7 - worst, roll-back, Ever.
And no, i didn't hear any sensor shifting noises, just the usual hiss.

Steve: that lens is pretty impressive,.. I wonder if the 18-35 Sigma does the same.

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LensBeginner Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,696	Haha! it's wonderful! Technicalities aside, it's Christmas-themed... plus there are cats!!! :-P

12-14-2014, 05:45 AM	#3
Rimfiredude Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Washington Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,176	I probably would shoot more video if I could shoot using the view finder instead of that stupid ground glass. I found I have better luck with a manual lens, but again, very difficult to focus with the ground glass. It is just a pain in the _ _ _ to use. The days of the super 8 were even better. I hate to say it but, Canon has it all over Pentax when it comes to video. Let's get into the 21st century Pentax.

12-14-2014, 12:39 PM	#4
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	Originally posted by PiDicus Rex K5 owners, does this video adequately showcase the K5's Sensor Shift SR system? Could be using a Sigma lens with OS? But yeh, my K-7 IBIS in video was smooth.

12-19-2014, 09:06 PM	#6
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	Rufus is due for a visit to the vet...

12-19-2014, 09:38 PM	#7
kadajawi Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,799	Originally posted by Steve.Ledger Rufus is due for a visit to the vet... Huh? Why?

12-20-2014, 12:46 AM	#8
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	Time to have his jewels removed..

12-20-2014, 03:23 AM	#9
kadajawi Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,799	Oh. I thought they are gone already...

12-20-2014, 03:44 AM	#10
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	LOL! Then he has some serious looking hemorrhoids.. Check at 00:46 PS: I did not intend for my comment to take this thread off-topic, sorry Stewart

12-20-2014, 03:50 AM	#11
kadajawi Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,799	Originally posted by Steve.Ledger LOL! Then he has some serious looking hemorrhoids.. Check at 00:46 PS: I did not intend for my comment to take this thread off-topic, sorry Stewart Aaaah... I just checked with the owner, yup, it will be his Christmas present. Poor cat. Any comments on the SR?

12-20-2014, 09:32 AM	#13
kadajawi Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,799	Originally posted by Steve.Ledger Yes, it is how I remember my K-7. Nice and fluid, but watch out for the recoil As a comparison, here's one of my cats (desexed) shot with the K-50 with MovieSR off using the Sigma 17-70 Macro HSM OS lens with OS off at first and then switched on. This lens is my solution to the horrid MovieSR. Pentax K-50 - No OS v OS - YouTube Looks good. As for the recoil, that's depending on the settings. The K-5 has a pretty big range of motion, which allows it to balance out more than (some) lenses can, but it is set in a way that it tries to smoothen more (because it can, I suppose). That leads to recoil (which with a bit of practice can be countered... at least when you plan ahead). It could also be set to filter out faster movements only, giving it a more direct feel, and less/no recoil. They could also implement some sort of "AI" to detect pans and to lock the sensor movement in the direction of the pan... so that that won't be smoothened (as much?). It'd be up to Pentax to offer those options, though given that they wouldn't even activate the feature in the first I'd already be happy if they just activate it, with no adjustments possible.

12-20-2014, 08:01 PM	#14
PiDicus Rex Veteran Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,381 Original Poster	Originally posted by Steve.Ledger PS: I did not intend for my comment to take this thread off-topic, sorry Stewart I has 3 cats,. so this OT side step is acceptable Kadajawi: Holy snotballs that SR is good. I'd be happy with that performance on any camera, even the little roll-back at the ends of movements is acceptable - that eats the SR in my Canon XL-1 alive, and blows away the SR in my JVC HD-7 - worst, roll-back, Ever. And no, i didn't hear any sensor shifting noises, just the usual hiss. Steve: that lens is pretty impressive,.. I wonder if the 18-35 Sigma does the same.