Originally posted by BarryE Video ? Who cares ...I don't If I did I'd go elsewhere. Pentax, to me, are a stills cameras. I tell Ricoh that every chance I get
And thank you for Effing up what other people want to enjoy.
Do you see any of the Pentax Cinematographers whining that 'We don't use cameras for stills, you should disable stills,.."
No, you don't see that, because we don't do it, we just put up with all the whining from those still stuck in the 19th century that don't understand they're using computers with video functions that are tuned-down to do One Frame Per Shutter Press, just to keep the Stills crowd happy.
In the parlance of my people, Quit ya whinging!
The deliberate efforts of people to actively prevent others from enjoying their own part of the visual arts, Must End Now.
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Originally posted by BarryE I do think Ricoh achieve their price advantage from not pushing video.
That, is the dumbest thing I've read all week.
CCD and CMOS Sensors were developed FOR VIDEO, they've been co-opted to Stills.
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Originally posted by mohb Could somebody tell me which cameras take 4K etc. etc video and match the still taking capabilities of, say, the K1. A quick google search doesn't seem to offer many alternatives.
In FF there's the A7S and A7S2 from Sony, and IIRC, from Canon the 5D4 and 1DX2 and 1D-C.
Sony Stills fans get to by the A7 for all-round use, A7S for Video, and A7R for sheer stills resolution, Sony is smart that way, offering customised versions.
In APSc there's a couple more Sony's, such as the a6300 and a6500
In M4/3, there's the GH4, GH5, G85, GX85, and IIRC, the GX850 - with the first four also supporting 4K HDMI output, and the GH5, G85 and GX85 all having Sensor Shift In Video.
All the above range in price from the GX85 in the sub $1000 (AU) range, to 4 times the price of a K-1 for the Canon 1DX2.
Cine Cameras capable of extracting a RAW DNG still frame at 4K and above, are the BMPC4K at around AU$3000, the Cion at around AU$8000 (not including external recording PC ) BMD's Ursa range from AU$7000 to AU$15000 depending on options, and the Sony FS5 and FS7, Kinefinity cameras, and the Red's at around AU$60,000 New by the time you're ready to shoot.
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Originally posted by dofmaster My opinion: if you want to work commercially, then having a video-ready camera is basically a must .....etc etc (ommitied to reduce size of post)...... If there is ever a K1 version II, then it NEEDS to have 4K video and a clean HDMI out, as well an overhauled autofocus system that is integrated with video.
Ab-so-frakking-loutely! And especially the points about preferring a single system over doubling the amount of gear needed, and the costs involved.
Nearly all the job adverts for Real Estate Photography here in Melbourne, are asking for "FF, 12mm or wider, 4K video, Drones a plus".
Working Photog's are not going to be getting work with Pentax's current models in that industry.
You simply cannot market a new camera going in to 2018 without 4K.
Some parts of the Pentax Video - the retaining image inormation outside the IRE limits, and the customisability of the image profiles, are spot on terrific.
But the HDMI being screwed up, too-low data-rates, lack of All-I-Frame CoDec, lack of Sensor Shift,... OMG - the GX85 and G85 both have 5-axis stabilisation, in bodies that retail at less the AU$1200 (around US$900) for the G85, and AU$899 for the GX85 - AU$899 was the Launch Price of the K-01 DownUnder.
Improvement Must Be Made.