Originally posted by kadajawi I ended up with the GX80, which is as small and light as it can get I guess. Yes, it's not as good as the K-5 for stills. Low light performance is meh in comparison. However how often do I need such great low light performance? In those instances I can carry the K-5. But most of the time, the GX80 will do just fine, and the benefit of significantly improved video (and the size advantage) easily make up for any shortcomings in terms of stills. Plus, if there is enough light there's actually something I like about the way GX80 photos look like.
What ISO do you consider usable for stills on your GX80 ?
I find that ISO up to 6400 is good on my K-30 . I have set it to ISO AUTO 100-6400 and almost never override it.
The high ISO is mostly useful for indoor shooting when lighting conditions are often insufficient at lower ISOs.
My first camera, a K200D, could only go up to ISO 1600, and that was too grainy to be usable. The K-30 was a huge improvement.
I gave my K200D to my mother, but she didn't use it much because of this limitation. She does a lot of indoor shooting too.
Last Xmas, she visited me, and I bought a K-50 for her on ebay for $250. She is very happy with it.
I now have my old K200D back, but it's collecting dust. I tried to sell it locally on craigslist, but so far, no takers.
GX80 and the current replacement, GX85 look like they have no stupid 29 minute recording limit. That sounds very interesting. Of course, it doesn't do 60p at this price, or 400 Mbps bit rate recording, but its price with a lens is 1/4 the cost of a GH5s body only. The 16MP is probably just fine for that sensor size. I'm OK with the 16MP on my K-30 for stills, and the MFT sensor is smaller than APS-C, so higher MP is probably not a great idea for noise.
Thank you for pointing me in the direction of this camera. I have been a bit squeezed financially lately and just don't have it in my budget to go for the GH5s + a couple of lenses, even though I really want them. Seems like keeping the K-30 for stills and this Panasonic for video would be a great combo. Apparently, the GX85 with 2 lenses can be had for under $600 ... And if I found the money for the GH5s later on, I would already have the lenses for it.
Looks like the GX85 has an EVF also, which is a biggie for stills.