So, final cut, or LR premier or not either of those.

PiDicus Rex · 02-27-2019, 04:28 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by repaap

If I will buy BMPCC 4K one day

Given the earlier statement about upgrading the m4/3 kit you already had, the new 4K Pocket Cam would be a very easy choice.
Especially as you'll be able to retain lenses, adapters, focal reducers,.... KM/KA glass works rather nice in from to GH's

I updated from my K-01's to the AJA Cion, making E and m4/3 mounts for it, to adapt nearly any lens to it. It uses the same 4K sensor as the BMPC4K and 4K Ursa's. Matching footage between Cion and BMD's is super easy, as is matching BMD cameras to other brands.

If you try Resolve again, check out the 'OpenFX Colourspace Transform' - I don't know if other NLE's like FCPx include this sort of tool, but it allows you to take footage from a camera, set the input gamma (aka 'log' ) curves to match the camera shot on, and output the gamma of the camera you need to match.

So that BMD Pocket Cam 4K, will be able to match Cion, Red, Arri, Canon,... etc etc etc

Maksim · 03-19-2019, 10:11 PM

Vegas Pro for me.

r0ckstarr · 04-24-2019, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by PiDicus Rex

DaVinci Resolve.

Does Resolve handle 4k 10bit video or is that for the paid version?

normhead · 04-24-2019, 11:19 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by repaap

Update! I bought Final cut. Reason. It has been designed for Mac. Works like charm. If I will buy BMPCC 4K one day I still have a option of resolve for free, but full licence.

this was just 5 minute work. Nothing fancy, but trying my new tripod out with Kinohead. Shot with K-1 + DFA*70-200. Just having fun, no planned script.

Given the responses here, you'd be surprised how many others I know that went through the same process with the same result. I'm not going to comment, because I don't edit video anymore. But Final Cut Pro is one of those pieces of software people buy Macs for. But you really do have to go for top end specs. Video uses resources.

The problem with Premier recommendations on an open forum, is the number of people who will recommend Premier just because they hate Macs and nothing Apple does could ever be any good under any circumstances.

You'd think they'd just declare their bias and recuse themselves from deliberations.

repaap · 04-24-2019, 02:19 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by normhead

Given the responses here, you'd be surprised how many others I know that went through the same process with the same result. I'm not going to comment, because I don't edit video anymore. But Final Cut Pro is one of those pieces of software people buy Macs for. But you really do have to go for top end specs. Video uses resources.

The problem with Premier recommendations on an open forum, is the number of people who will recommend Premier just because they hate Macs and nothing Apple does could ever be any good under any circumstances.

You'd think they'd just declare their bias and recuse themselves from deliberations.

I have been using Final cut now and it sure is good. Even with my non existing skills in editing video(will take a good youtube learning session soon). The thing is that nothing is perfect, but if it works and you like it -as I do like my mc and Pentax- then just do as you like. Finl cut pro seems like nobrainer for Mac. I can see it now. Shooting video is another thing. Lot to learn about shooting, planning, getting the shot you wanted, and alternative just in case. Sound...well I will not go there in this post. When I have mastered those things, I will look for better videocamera.

R. Wethereyet · 04-25-2019, 09:29 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by repaap

... Even with my non existing skills in editing video(will take a good youtube learning session soon)...

repaap, you may want to look at www.udemy.com and search for video courses. They have a few for learning video with DSLR's as well as other general video planning/shooting/editing topics. The courses are reasonably priced at about $15 on sale (some even for free). As you mention there are also others on YouTube as well.

repaap · 04-25-2019, 12:13 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by R. Wethereyet

repaap, you may want to look at www.udemy.com and search for video courses. They have a few for learning video with DSLR's as well as other general video planning/shooting/editing topics. The courses are reasonably priced at about $15 on sale (some even for free). As you mention there are also others on YouTube as well.

Thanks for the tip!

PiDicus Rex · 04-28-2019, 07:44 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by r0ckstarr

Does Resolve handle 4k 10bit video or is that for the paid version?

As far as I'm aware, there are no artificial limits to file size, frame rate, or bit depth, with either version of Resolve.
I've used it to handle the 12-bit 4K proRes files my AJA Cion records.

---------- Post added 29-04-19 at 12:52 PM ----------

Originally posted by normhead

The problem with Premier recommendations on an open forum, is the number of people who will recommend Premier just because they hate Macs and nothing Apple does could ever be any good under any circumstances.

:lolz,.... the Premiere lovers league will diss anything that's not Premiere - regardless of platform. Wait till you see a Prem editors face when they try to use Edius and can't understand a broadcast NLE,.. or their jaw hitting the floor when they watch an Edius Editor blow through an edit in 15 minutes that would have taken most of the day under Premiere.

But they'll still tell you Prem is a better program then Edius, Vegas, Avid, FCP, FCPx, Resolve,... Right up until the day they can't sign in and do work, and search for blame in the IT dept while Adobe's CC is down.

For mine, one of the key factors when choosing an NLE is, 'Does it need to be connected to the internet to function?'. If the answer is 'yes', then I'm not interested.
That's the reason I swapped to Resolve after close to 20 years on Edius.

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02-27-2019, 04:28 PM - 1 Like	#31
PiDicus Rex Veteran Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,381	Originally posted by repaap If I will buy BMPCC 4K one day Given the earlier statement about upgrading the m4/3 kit you already had, the new 4K Pocket Cam would be a very easy choice. Especially as you'll be able to retain lenses, adapters, focal reducers,.... KM/KA glass works rather nice in from to GH's I updated from my K-01's to the AJA Cion, making E and m4/3 mounts for it, to adapt nearly any lens to it. It uses the same 4K sensor as the BMPC4K and 4K Ursa's. Matching footage between Cion and BMD's is super easy, as is matching BMD cameras to other brands. If you try Resolve again, check out the 'OpenFX Colourspace Transform' - I don't know if other NLE's like FCPx include this sort of tool, but it allows you to take footage from a camera, set the input gamma (aka 'log' ) curves to match the camera shot on, and output the gamma of the camera you need to match. So that BMD Pocket Cam 4K, will be able to match Cion, Red, Arri, Canon,... etc etc etc

03-19-2019, 10:11 PM	#32
Maksim Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 80	Vegas Pro for me.

04-24-2019, 09:35 AM	#33
r0ckstarr Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,507	Originally posted by PiDicus Rex DaVinci Resolve. Does Resolve handle 4k 10bit video or is that for the paid version?

04-24-2019, 11:19 AM - 2 Likes	#34
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by repaap Update! I bought Final cut. Reason. It has been designed for Mac. Works like charm. If I will buy BMPCC 4K one day I still have a option of resolve for free, but full licence. this was just 5 minute work. Nothing fancy, but trying my new tripod out with Kinohead. Shot with K-1 + DFA*70-200. Just having fun, no planned script. Given the responses here, you'd be surprised how many others I know that went through the same process with the same result. I'm not going to comment, because I don't edit video anymore. But Final Cut Pro is one of those pieces of software people buy Macs for. But you really do have to go for top end specs. Video uses resources. The problem with Premier recommendations on an open forum, is the number of people who will recommend Premier just because they hate Macs and nothing Apple does could ever be any good under any circumstances. You'd think they'd just declare their bias and recuse themselves from deliberations.

04-24-2019, 02:19 PM - 1 Like	#35
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242 Original Poster	Originally posted by normhead Given the responses here, you'd be surprised how many others I know that went through the same process with the same result. I'm not going to comment, because I don't edit video anymore. But Final Cut Pro is one of those pieces of software people buy Macs for. But you really do have to go for top end specs. Video uses resources. The problem with Premier recommendations on an open forum, is the number of people who will recommend Premier just because they hate Macs and nothing Apple does could ever be any good under any circumstances. You'd think they'd just declare their bias and recuse themselves from deliberations. I have been using Final cut now and it sure is good. Even with my non existing skills in editing video(will take a good youtube learning session soon). The thing is that nothing is perfect, but if it works and you like it -as I do like my mc and Pentax- then just do as you like. Finl cut pro seems like nobrainer for Mac. I can see it now. Shooting video is another thing. Lot to learn about shooting, planning, getting the shot you wanted, and alternative just in case. Sound...well I will not go there in this post. When I have mastered those things, I will look for better videocamera.

04-25-2019, 09:29 AM - 1 Like	#36
R. Wethereyet Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Alberta, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 126	Originally posted by repaap ... Even with my non existing skills in editing video(will take a good youtube learning session soon)... repaap, you may want to look at www.udemy.com and search for video courses. They have a few for learning video with DSLR's as well as other general video planning/shooting/editing topics. The courses are reasonably priced at about $15 on sale (some even for free). As you mention there are also others on YouTube as well.

04-25-2019, 12:13 PM - 1 Like	#37
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242 Original Poster	Originally posted by R. Wethereyet repaap, you may want to look at www.udemy.com and search for video courses. They have a few for learning video with DSLR's as well as other general video planning/shooting/editing topics. The courses are reasonably priced at about $15 on sale (some even for free). As you mention there are also others on YouTube as well. Thanks for the tip!

04-28-2019, 07:44 PM - 2 Likes	#38
PiDicus Rex Veteran Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,381	Originally posted by r0ckstarr Does Resolve handle 4k 10bit video or is that for the paid version? As far as I'm aware, there are no artificial limits to file size, frame rate, or bit depth, with either version of Resolve. I've used it to handle the 12-bit 4K proRes files my AJA Cion records. ---------- Post added 29-04-19 at 12:52 PM ---------- Originally posted by normhead The problem with Premier recommendations on an open forum, is the number of people who will recommend Premier just because they hate Macs and nothing Apple does could ever be any good under any circumstances. :lolz,.... the Premiere lovers league will diss anything that's not Premiere - regardless of platform. Wait till you see a Prem editors face when they try to use Edius and can't understand a broadcast NLE,.. or their jaw hitting the floor when they watch an Edius Editor blow through an edit in 15 minutes that would have taken most of the day under Premiere. But they'll still tell you Prem is a better program then Edius, Vegas, Avid, FCP, FCPx, Resolve,... Right up until the day they can't sign in and do work, and search for blame in the IT dept while Adobe's CC is down. For mine, one of the key factors when choosing an NLE is, 'Does it need to be connected to the internet to function?'. If the answer is 'yes', then I'm not interested. That's the reason I swapped to Resolve after close to 20 years on Edius.