JordonDucks CroPPY video about Pentax video.

EFats · 03-31-2021, 07:21 PM

Hey if you're done with that K-01, I'd be happy to take it off your hands!

stevebrot · 03-31-2021, 07:42 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by TCSJordan

Hey all! Turns out I still have an account here!

Cool! Believe it or not, I am a fan of y'all.

In regards to the SR for video. The K-3 (my camera) is the first model I remember where a fuss was made regarding the SR in movie mode. I couldn't find anything about video SR on the K-01, K-30, or K-50 other than it was quiet. That said, there is a smattering of comments on this site's forums that mention the change and that I read today after I posted. Mea culpa FWIW...I don't use SR for video...I go old school and don't share the results.

On to use of your Hollywood SMC 28/2.0 and K-01 video, there probably was some secret sauce that was missing. PF member @PiDicus Rex; is a big fan of the K-01 for cinematography and shot the short below with a mix of Pentax-M and Pentax-A lenses on a K-01. He may have neutered the Pentax-M glass or perhaps he knows some other secret, I dunno. I am pretty up on vintage lens compatibility issues and if the K01 is not compatible for video with K/M series lenses, it is new to me.

Steve

Qwntm · 03-31-2021, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

Based on actual field experience, right? That's OK...I have zero experience with a K-01 except for handling one in the store before buying my K-3.

I would expect that at least one forum member that has used a K-01 to make some rather compelling videos will chime in on this thread.

Edit: I suspect that Jordan might have benefited from a short tutorial, particularly in regards to use of legacy lenses. I suspect that the aperture ring was not enabled and even if so, moving to M mode might have allowed lens stop-down. (I don't have a K-01 at hand and can't confirm.) I would also note that Jordan might have had jello, it was not due to the mechanical SR system. As for the sound recording...don't blame the tools when you did not test your kit before heading out the door.

Steve

Forget it, I should have known better...

**Cerebum** · 04-01-2021, 12:35 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by TCSJordan

We will definitely be reviewing, we're just in talks with Ricoh now about how soon we can get one.

OK, now I am embarrassed. Apologies for the slight. It was based on the review of the year where the name "Pentax" is dismissed like something from a Kinder egg. I know, once you review the cameras you love them (K1, K3, K70, ..... KP not so much ... But I bought one anyway) and the review videos with Chris Nichols are extremely good and fair, I just wish you would treat any mention of the brand name a little less mockingly because it leads me to speaking in Anglo Saxon and frightening the dog

---------- Post added 04-01-21 at 12:59 AM ----------

Originally posted by TCSJordan

Hey all! Turns out I still have an account here!

For anyone saying we're just ganging up on Pentax, we asked people on Twitter and YouTube which camera they would want to see me challenged to shoot video with. "A Pentax Camera" was the most popular response, with the K-01 being the most requested single model. I do as the people ask.

Jordon Duck

This comes as no surprise. You guys have rightly been pointing out about Pentax's poor video for ever, so the most unusual pentax was bound to come up. If you asked what to use for street, I would imagine large format would feature. This is just another example of Sony, Canon and nikon users laughing at the little guy, right up to the point where the shutter bricks the camera (Sony A7iii) or the back of the camera fries your face. Hands up, we suck at video but nobody's perfect. Doesn't really matter. I bet you got way more likes than dislikes so...... You can't please everyone and I am looking forward to the K3ii review 😁

swanlefitte · 04-01-2021, 01:48 AM - **1 Like**

An old thread on manual lenses for video with the k01.
Pentax K-01 : Problem in video mode with manual lenses - Page 2 - PentaxForums.com

**cartesio** · 04-01-2021, 05:45 AM

DPReview TV: How a crappy camera made Jordan a better videographer: Digital Photography Review

**FozzFoster** · 04-01-2021, 06:57 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by TCSJordan

I did my best to represent that.

Originally posted by Cerebum

I just wish you would treat any mention of the brand name a little less mockingly

Exactly this @Cerebum ^^^
Even if @TCSJordan reviewed the K-3 III, I would have a hard time taking what he says seriously, because he doesn't take Pentax seriously.

**sergysergy** · 04-01-2021, 07:02 AM - **2 Likes**

Not the biggest fan of the K-01, but crappy? It is sad when people have to use those titles to create controversy.

**UncleVanya** · 04-01-2021, 07:06 AM

Originally posted by TCSJordan

The K-01 took some beautiful thumbnail photos, but the video quality and especially shooting experience is terrible. I did my best to represent that.

Jordon Duck

I struggled with the original videos - because you had done an amazing job hiding the major issues. The explanatory video helped. I still didn’t really see a lot of the problem without stopping and looking at frames. The motion and the casual way I view video just doesn’t lead to much critical viewing - for me video is rarely something I look at image quality in. Note that I’m not saying a very badly preserved 8mm doesn’t look worse than a modern 4k rig, just that quality is very relative in video vs stills. Seeing this through your eyes was useful.

**FozzFoster** · 04-01-2021, 07:09 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by TCSJordan

For anyone saying we're just ganging up on Pentax, we asked people on Twitter and YouTube which camera they would want to see me challenged to shoot video with. "A Pentax Camera" was the most popular response, with the K-01 being the most requested single model. I do as the people ask.

At least I didn't say you were ganging up on Pentax - I said you picked low hanging fruit.
You know well and good that the K-01 wasn't even designed as a video camera and would be 'a challenge' for you to shoot video with... you didn't need to ask your echo chamber of Pentax-haters which one would be 'a challenge'.
Your video was an appeal to a toxic community.

D1N0 · 04-01-2021, 07:20 AM

He was just talking about it's video.

**jumbleview** · 04-01-2021, 07:39 AM - **1 Like**

Why he did this now? Or this is his hobby to review nine-ten years old gear?

ecostigny · 04-01-2021, 08:07 AM

If DPReview TV reached 300,000 subscribers, Jordan promised to shoot four episodes on the K-01 vs. the usual Panasonic gear. As for why he chose this particular Pentax model vs. any other camera from that period, maybe he and Chris just enjoy kicking the Pentaxian hornet's nest.

FYI, DPReview gave the K-01 a 69% rating at the end of their review of the camera, vs. 83% for the K-5. For comparison, PentaxForums gave the K-01 an 8.0 rating vs. an 8.3 rating for the K-5.

JPT · 04-01-2021, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by TCSJordan

We will definitely be reviewing, we're just in talks with Ricoh now about how soon we can get one.

Thanks. I'll look forward to seeing that.

**UncleVanya** · 04-01-2021, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by ecostigny

If DPReview TV reached 300,000 subscribers, Jordan promised to shoot four episodes on the K-01 vs. the usual Panasonic gear. As for why he chose this particular Pentax model vs. any other camera from that period, maybe he and Chris just enjoy kicking the Pentaxian hornet's nest.

The k-01 was the most requested Pentax by their viewers for this.

03-31-2021, 07:42 PM - 1 Like	#17
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by TCSJordan Hey all! Turns out I still have an account here! Cool! Believe it or not, I am a fan of y'all. In regards to the SR for video. The K-3 (my camera) is the first model I remember where a fuss was made regarding the SR in movie mode. I couldn't find anything about video SR on the K-01, K-30, or K-50 other than it was quiet. That said, there is a smattering of comments on this site's forums that mention the change and that I read today after I posted. Mea culpa FWIW...I don't use SR for video...I go old school and don't share the results. On to use of your Hollywood SMC 28/2.0 and K-01 video, there probably was some secret sauce that was missing. PF member @PiDicus Rex; is a big fan of the K-01 for cinematography and shot the short below with a mix of Pentax-M and Pentax-A lenses on a K-01. He may have neutered the Pentax-M glass or perhaps he knows some other secret, I dunno. I am pretty up on vintage lens compatibility issues and if the K01 is not compatible for video with K/M series lenses, it is new to me. Vimeo Steve

03-31-2021, 08:44 PM	#18
Qwntm Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Eastern Oregon Posts: 856	Originally posted by stevebrot Based on actual field experience, right? That's OK...I have zero experience with a K-01 except for handling one in the store before buying my K-3. I would expect that at least one forum member that has used a K-01 to make some rather compelling videos will chime in on this thread. Edit: I suspect that Jordan might have benefited from a short tutorial, particularly in regards to use of legacy lenses. I suspect that the aperture ring was not enabled and even if so, moving to M mode might have allowed lens stop-down. (I don't have a K-01 at hand and can't confirm.) I would also note that Jordan might have had jello, it was not due to the mechanical SR system. As for the sound recording...don't blame the tools when you did not test your kit before heading out the door. Steve Forget it, I should have known better... Last edited by Qwntm; 03-31-2021 at 08:53 PM.

04-01-2021, 05:45 AM	#21
cartesio Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2016 Photos: Gallery Posts: 900	K-01 video on DPreview DPReview TV: How a crappy camera made Jordan a better videographer: Digital Photography Review

04-01-2021, 07:09 AM - 2 Likes	#25
FozzFoster Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 6,808	Originally posted by TCSJordan For anyone saying we're just ganging up on Pentax, we asked people on Twitter and YouTube which camera they would want to see me challenged to shoot video with. "A Pentax Camera" was the most popular response, with the K-01 being the most requested single model. I do as the people ask. At least I didn't say you were ganging up on Pentax - I said you picked low hanging fruit. You know well and good that the K-01 wasn't even designed as a video camera and would be 'a challenge' for you to shoot video with... you didn't need to ask your echo chamber of Pentax-haters which one would be 'a challenge'. Your video was an appeal to a toxic community. Last edited by FozzFoster; 04-01-2021 at 08:10 AM.

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03-31-2021, 07:21 PM	#16
EFats Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 43	Hey if you're done with that K-01, I'd be happy to take it off your hands!

04-01-2021, 12:35 AM - 1 Like	#19
Cerebum Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Lancaster Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,829	Originally posted by TCSJordan We will definitely be reviewing, we're just in talks with Ricoh now about how soon we can get one. OK, now I am embarrassed. Apologies for the slight. It was based on the review of the year where the name "Pentax" is dismissed like something from a Kinder egg. I know, once you review the cameras you love them (K1, K3, K70, ..... KP not so much ... But I bought one anyway) and the review videos with Chris Nichols are extremely good and fair, I just wish you would treat any mention of the brand name a little less mockingly because it leads me to speaking in Anglo Saxon and frightening the dog ---------- Post added 04-01-21 at 12:59 AM ---------- Originally posted by TCSJordan Hey all! Turns out I still have an account here! For anyone saying we're just ganging up on Pentax, we asked people on Twitter and YouTube which camera they would want to see me challenged to shoot video with. "A Pentax Camera" was the most popular response, with the K-01 being the most requested single model. I do as the people ask. Jordon Duck This comes as no surprise. You guys have rightly been pointing out about Pentax's poor video for ever, so the most unusual pentax was bound to come up. If you asked what to use for street, I would imagine large format would feature. This is just another example of Sony, Canon and nikon users laughing at the little guy, right up to the point where the shutter bricks the camera (Sony A7iii) or the back of the camera fries your face. Hands up, we suck at video but nobody's perfect. Doesn't really matter. I bet you got way more likes than dislikes so...... You can't please everyone and I am looking forward to the K3ii review 😁

04-01-2021, 01:48 AM - 1 Like	#20
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	An old thread on manual lenses for video with the k01. Pentax K-01 : Problem in video mode with manual lenses - Page 2 - PentaxForums.com

04-01-2021, 06:57 AM - 1 Like	#22
FozzFoster Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 6,808	Originally posted by TCSJordan I did my best to represent that. Originally posted by Cerebum I just wish you would treat any mention of the brand name a little less mockingly Exactly this @Cerebum ^^^ Even if @TCSJordan reviewed the K-3 III, I would have a hard time taking what he says seriously, because he doesn't take Pentax seriously.

04-01-2021, 07:02 AM - 2 Likes	#23
sergysergy Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,175	Not the biggest fan of the K-01, but crappy? It is sad when people have to use those titles to create controversy.

04-01-2021, 07:06 AM	#24
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,445	Originally posted by TCSJordan The K-01 took some beautiful thumbnail photos, but the video quality and especially shooting experience is terrible. I did my best to represent that. Jordon Duck I struggled with the original videos - because you had done an amazing job hiding the major issues. The explanatory video helped. I still didn’t really see a lot of the problem without stopping and looking at frames. The motion and the casual way I view video just doesn’t lead to much critical viewing - for me video is rarely something I look at image quality in. Note that I’m not saying a very badly preserved 8mm doesn’t look worse than a modern 4k rig, just that quality is very relative in video vs stills. Seeing this through your eyes was useful.

04-01-2021, 07:20 AM	#26
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	He was just talking about it's video.

04-01-2021, 07:39 AM - 1 Like	#27
jumbleview Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 1,069	Why he did this now? Or this is his hobby to review nine-ten years old gear?

04-01-2021, 08:07 AM	#28
ecostigny Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Branford, CT Posts: 561	If DPReview TV reached 300,000 subscribers, Jordan promised to shoot four episodes on the K-01 vs. the usual Panasonic gear. As for why he chose this particular Pentax model vs. any other camera from that period, maybe he and Chris just enjoy kicking the Pentaxian hornet's nest. FYI, DPReview gave the K-01 a 69% rating at the end of their review of the camera, vs. 83% for the K-5. For comparison, PentaxForums gave the K-01 an 8.0 rating vs. an 8.3 rating for the K-5.

04-01-2021, 08:19 AM	#29
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	Originally posted by TCSJordan We will definitely be reviewing, we're just in talks with Ricoh now about how soon we can get one. Thanks. I'll look forward to seeing that.

04-01-2021, 08:25 AM	#30
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,445	Originally posted by ecostigny If DPReview TV reached 300,000 subscribers, Jordan promised to shoot four episodes on the K-01 vs. the usual Panasonic gear. As for why he chose this particular Pentax model vs. any other camera from that period, maybe he and Chris just enjoy kicking the Pentaxian hornet's nest. The k-01 was the most requested Pentax by their viewers for this.