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richtrav · 10-22-2009, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by falconeye

False.

Both, K-7 and K-x, are the same. In aperture ring A-setting, aperture can be set before recording but cannot changed anymore within. In aperture ring manual setting, aperture can be changed throughout the recording (by turning the aperture ring).

I know because I tested it.

Yes I just tried it on the K-7 and it's true - if the lens is set to A you can't change the aperture while recording, if you manually switch aperture while recording it takes the camera a slight bit to readjust the shutter speed or ISO but it does correct itself unless AE-L is on

ChainbreakR · 10-22-2009, 09:52 PM

That MkII firmware upgrade is a big deal......

1080p would be AMAZING. I would buy a k-7 right now if possible. It is the one determining factor holding me back.

Heck, 24p at 1080p would be FINE considering most 1080p work is at a cinematic frame rate....how bout 60p too?

Eruditass · 10-22-2009, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by richtrav

Yes I just tried it on the K-7 and it's true - if the lens is set to A you can't change the aperture while recording, if you manually switch aperture while recording it takes the camera a slight bit to readjust the shutter speed or ISO but it does correct itself unless AE-L is on

So it does work? Which lens is this with? a Pentax-A/F/FA? or Pentax-M? Of course the older lenses which stop down by themselves will work. Does this mean DA lenses without an aperture ring are at a disadvantage?

falconeye · 10-23-2009, 02:36 AM

Originally posted by Eruditass

Does this mean DA lenses without an aperture ring are at a disadvantage?

Exactly.
But fortunately, lenses with aperture ring exist for Pentax.

FYI, the video recording stops if you switch between the A and a manual aperture position. But it works if you switch from on manual position to another, readjusting exposure within about 1s. Like Richard said.

CanonToPentax · 10-28-2009, 09:13 AM

yes please, Full manual video mode on the next firmware!

* this thread make me finally sign up this forum, since i have only been a browser

NunoBarbosa · 10-28-2009, 04:17 PM

PENTAX: GIVE US MANUAL CONTROLS IN MOVIE MODE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is asking to much? look at canon sales...they are selling a lot of DSLR for videographers... don't loose that market, you have potential... you have SR and others not...

0100 · 10-31-2009, 10:53 AM

I am very close to buying a K-x but now with the K-7 at $1000ish I am thinking about going k-7.

Do you guys think pentax will ever give us 24p with the k-7, or should I not hold my breath?

falconeye · 10-31-2009, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by 0100

Do you guys think pentax will ever give us 24p with the k-7, or should I not hold my breath?

One should think that it can easily be done. But Canon kept reporting that it is very challenging to do for the 5DmkII and haven't done it so far. So my bet is 85% for not getting it.

On the other side, I think 24p is overhyped. On all modern HDTV actually, 30p playback is better than 24p, even in 50Hz territory.

Christopher M.W.T · 10-31-2009, 04:30 PM

Where's Ned Bunell these days? he use to post on this forum quite often I figure we should directly email him en-mass.

ChainbreakR · 10-31-2009, 07:30 PM

Falk- Canon has officially announced that their new firmware will allow 24 and 25p recording.

I really just want 1080p and 60fps @720p....I don't think the hardware will allow it, but I'm hoping a firmware update shows us otherwise!

petercrane · 10-31-2009, 10:24 PM

+1 on manual control. The hardware is all there, it's just about tweaking the firmware at this point. Does anybody know if there are any firmware hacks going around yet?

Christopher M.W.T · 11-01-2009, 12:16 AM

Theres a guy on here called tr13 who has a website for hacking the pentax firmware, so far he's had some successes however he has indicated he isn't interested in anything to do with the video mode.

0100 · 11-01-2009, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by ChainbreakR

Falk- Canon has officially announced that their new firmware will allow 24 and 25p recording.

I really just want 1080p and 60fps @720p....I don't think the hardware will allow it, but I'm hoping a firmware update shows us otherwise!

Yeah canons newest firmware now has 24p for the 5D. I would love to have this. I love shooting in 24p, just like the look it gives. In reality it probably makes little to no difference for that film look, I just have it stuck in my head that it does. lol

Originally posted by petercrane

Does anybody know if there are any firmware hacks going around yet?

I was going to ask this same question. I would love to see some crazy firmware hacks on this to really unleash this beast!

0100 · 11-01-2009, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by C.W Tsorotes

he has indicated he isn't interested in anything to do with the video mode.

damn it.

Eruditass · 11-01-2009, 11:04 AM

Email spam campaign needs to be organized!

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10-22-2009, 03:52 PM	#31
richtrav Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Texas Posts: 82	Originally posted by falconeye False. Both, K-7 and K-x, are the same. In aperture ring A-setting, aperture can be set before recording but cannot changed anymore within. In aperture ring manual setting, aperture can be changed throughout the recording (by turning the aperture ring). I know because I tested it. Yes I just tried it on the K-7 and it's true - if the lens is set to A you can't change the aperture while recording, if you manually switch aperture while recording it takes the camera a slight bit to readjust the shutter speed or ISO but it does correct itself unless AE-L is on

10-22-2009, 09:52 PM	#32
ChainbreakR Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Photos: Gallery Posts: 93	That MkII firmware upgrade is a big deal...... 1080p would be AMAZING. I would buy a k-7 right now if possible. It is the one determining factor holding me back. Heck, 24p at 1080p would be FINE considering most 1080p work is at a cinematic frame rate....how bout 60p too?

10-22-2009, 10:06 PM	#33
Eruditass Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by richtrav Yes I just tried it on the K-7 and it's true - if the lens is set to A you can't change the aperture while recording, if you manually switch aperture while recording it takes the camera a slight bit to readjust the shutter speed or ISO but it does correct itself unless AE-L is on So it does work? Which lens is this with? a Pentax-A/F/FA? or Pentax-M? Of course the older lenses which stop down by themselves will work. Does this mean DA lenses without an aperture ring are at a disadvantage?

10-23-2009, 02:36 AM	#34
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by Eruditass Does this mean DA lenses without an aperture ring are at a disadvantage? Exactly. But fortunately, lenses with aperture ring exist for Pentax. FYI, the video recording stops if you switch between the A and a manual aperture position. But it works if you switch from on manual position to another, readjusting exposure within about 1s. Like Richard said.

10-28-2009, 09:13 AM	#35
CanonToPentax New Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 1	yes please, Full manual video mode on the next firmware! * this thread make me finally sign up this forum, since i have only been a browser

10-28-2009, 04:17 PM	#36
NunoBarbosa Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Portugal Posts: 112	PENTAX: GIVE US MANUAL CONTROLS IN MOVIE MODE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is asking to much? look at canon sales...they are selling a lot of DSLR for videographers... don't loose that market, you have potential... you have SR and others not...

10-31-2009, 10:53 AM	#37
0100 New Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10	I am very close to buying a K-x but now with the K-7 at $1000ish I am thinking about going k-7. Do you guys think pentax will ever give us 24p with the k-7, or should I not hold my breath?

10-31-2009, 12:34 PM	#38
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by 0100 Do you guys think pentax will ever give us 24p with the k-7, or should I not hold my breath? One should think that it can easily be done. But Canon kept reporting that it is very challenging to do for the 5DmkII and haven't done it so far. So my bet is 85% for not getting it. On the other side, I think 24p is overhyped. On all modern HDTV actually, 30p playback is better than 24p, even in 50Hz territory.

10-31-2009, 04:30 PM	#39
Christopher M.W.T Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,689 Original Poster	Where's Ned Bunell these days? he use to post on this forum quite often I figure we should directly email him en-mass.

10-31-2009, 07:30 PM	#40
ChainbreakR Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Photos: Gallery Posts: 93	Falk- Canon has officially announced that their new firmware will allow 24 and 25p recording. I really just want 1080p and 60fps @720p....I don't think the hardware will allow it, but I'm hoping a firmware update shows us otherwise!

10-31-2009, 10:24 PM	#41
petercrane Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 87	+1 on manual control. The hardware is all there, it's just about tweaking the firmware at this point. Does anybody know if there are any firmware hacks going around yet?

11-01-2009, 12:16 AM	#42
Christopher M.W.T Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,689 Original Poster	Theres a guy on here called tr13 who has a website for hacking the pentax firmware, so far he's had some successes however he has indicated he isn't interested in anything to do with the video mode.

11-01-2009, 12:19 AM	#43
0100 New Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10	Originally posted by ChainbreakR Falk- Canon has officially announced that their new firmware will allow 24 and 25p recording. I really just want 1080p and 60fps @720p....I don't think the hardware will allow it, but I'm hoping a firmware update shows us otherwise! Yeah canons newest firmware now has 24p for the 5D. I would love to have this. I love shooting in 24p, just like the look it gives. In reality it probably makes little to no difference for that film look, I just have it stuck in my head that it does. lol Originally posted by petercrane Does anybody know if there are any firmware hacks going around yet? I was going to ask this same question. I would love to see some crazy firmware hacks on this to really unleash this beast!

11-01-2009, 12:21 AM	#44
0100 New Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10	Originally posted by C.W Tsorotes he has indicated he isn't interested in anything to do with the video mode. damn it.

11-01-2009, 11:04 AM	#45
Eruditass Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,207	Email spam campaign needs to be organized!

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