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tripodquest · 11-13-2013, 06:59 AM

There was a lot of talk about the k-3 being able to output raw video through hdmi to anything that can process and record a raw video signal through hdmi, now that they're actually out, has anyone tested this? i still don't know if the k-3 can do that or not.

grispie · 11-13-2013, 06:59 AM

Originally posted by TomGarn

Or you do
try to sell it all and make a new start

nah, there will always be something i guess. + I also make photos.... love pentax & their lens lineup for that.
I just wish they'd put a bit more effort into the video area. How hard can it be ? (maybe it is, i don't know..:-)

tripodquest · 11-13-2013, 07:02 AM

Originally posted by grispie

I just wish they'd put a bit more effort into the video area. How hard can it be ?

haha, that's exactly what I think too!

TomGarn · 11-13-2013, 07:08 AM

Originally posted by tripodquest

haha, that's exactly what I think too!

The K-3 - after all true and meaningfull dissapointement - is a good step forward.
But also important soon to come:
Pentax should be willing to fix their mistakes quickly with a meaningfull firmware patch.
If they can manage to learn out of their bad mistakes RICOH - Pentax can have e future.

tripodquest · 11-13-2013, 07:10 AM

Originally posted by TomGarn

The K-3 - after all true and meaningfull dissapointement - is a good step forward.
But also important soon to come:
Pentax should be willing to fix their mistakes quickly with a meaningfull firmware patch.
If they can manage to learn out of their bad mistakes RICOH - Pentax can have e future.

Let's hope so. The k-3 and other recent cameras are a big step forward but considering how fast new technology is developed these days, I'm not too impressed. Hey, now that I'm talking to video people... if I skipped telecining and shot the projected image with a HDSLR (the cheapest way to transfer film to digital!), how would I fix the distortion? I know there are programs that do this that cost a lot of money, but can any of the free ones (kino, cinelerra, avidemux, openshot, and so on) do this?

if I could easily transfer my films to digital, that would make getting a s16 modified bolex a lot more attractive not having to worry about telecining costs. (just the cost of film...)

tripodquest · 11-13-2013, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by TomGarn

I loved to film with my father's 8mm Bolex that was manually turned on ...
before I had my own super 8 Nizo ... But make this another thread please.

I did... :)

TomGarn · 11-13-2013, 09:00 AM

°
To sum it up a little just read the Pentax Forum's Review on K-3 video possibilities.
Here I learned even more about some additional flaws in this freaky camera,
ridiculously inacceptable in comparisson to all those better video DSLRs.

Pentax K-3 Review - Movie/Video Mode - PentaxForums.com

tripodquest · 11-13-2013, 09:44 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by TomGarn

°
To sum it up a little just read the Pentax Forum's Review on K-3 video possibilities.
Here I learned even more about some additional flaws in this freaky camera,
ridiculously inacceptable in comparisson to all those better video DSLRs.

Pentax K-3 Review - Movie/Video Mode - PentaxForums.com

wow... i had to stop reading even before I got properly started.... that's just grossly unacceptable... I'll look long and hard before deciding what system to go with, but it won't be pentax. i was looking forward to a k-3 for the "new&improved" video capabilities, now I have to say I rather shell out a few grand more for something decent, whatever it is, if this low budget stuff is really this disappointing.

TomGarn · 11-13-2013, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by tripodquest

wow... i had to stop reading even before I got properly started.... that's just grossly unacceptable... I'll look long and hard before deciding what system to go with, but it won't be pentax. i was looking forward to a k-3 for the "new&improved" video capabilities, now I have to say I rather shell out a few grand more for something decent, whatever it is, if this low budget stuff is really this disappointing.

If your children are handicapped you will still love them and hope for their very best ...
But nowadays we could find out before ... and decide not to stay pregnant.
Some my feel this is a little harsh and cruel - but it also is our freedom to decide.

grispie · 11-13-2013, 02:40 PM

Blunty seems happy...

funny, at a given moment he talks about the low pass filter and the effect of on/off "and especially in video". am i confused or is he. the low pass filter is in the photo menu, or would it affect video as well?

tripodquest · 11-13-2013, 04:28 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by TomGarn

If your children are handicapped you will still love them and hope for their very best ...
But nowadays we could find out before ... and decide not to stay pregnant.
Some my feel this is a little harsh and cruel - but it also is our freedom to decide.

no i agree, we have the freedom to choose now... if the companies fail to provide, then we choose not to buy... more freedom of choice now. though sometimes it almost feels like less, especially if all the products to choose between are essentially the same

johnmflores · 11-13-2013, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by tripodquest

That's great! But it would be annoying if every lense had to be individually adapted and even then you'd have to wonder if they work. I think I'll just try to get the most out of k-3. Like you said, the camera we want hasn't been made.

Adapting is easy, just 1 adapter:

tripodquest · 11-13-2013, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by johnmflores

Adapting is easy, just 1 adapter:

if you read my next comment, you'd know that i'm not seriously looking into gh-2 and other options... what other choices do I have in 1080p 24p video? i'm not up to the latest devices, help me get with the times (haha) edit: never mind, I'm looking into it myself now. i'm really disappointed that the pentax k-3 doesn't have focus peaking during video. with manual glass, it's great that you can set the focus with the help of the focus peaking in the beginning, but not having it during video assumes that the scene is static and no focus adjustments are necessary, or that the focus markings on the lens are always correct...

johnmflores · 11-13-2013, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by tripodquest

if you read my next comment, you'd know that i'm not seriously looking into gh-2 and other options... what other choices do I have in 1080p 24p video? i'm not up to the latest devices, help me get with the times (haha) edit: never mind, I'm looking into it myself now. i'm really disappointed that the pentax k-3 doesn't have focus peaking during video. with manual glass, it's great that you can set the focus with the help of the focus peaking in the beginning, but not having it during video assumes that the scene is static and no focus adjustments are necessary, or that the focus markings on the lens are always correct...

The lack of focus peaking may be disappointing but not surprising. Even the GH3 lacks it, which made a lot of folks unhappy. I use an external monitor with focus peaking on my GH2 but it's one more device to keep track of when shooting.

It seems as if focus peaking during shooting is just becoming mainstream, as the GX7, launched after the GH3, now has it.

tripodquest · 11-13-2013, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by johnmflores

The lack of focus peaking may be disappointing but not surprising. Even the GH3 lacks it, which made a lot of folks unhappy. I use an external monitor with focus peaking on my GH2 but it's one more device to keep track of when shooting.

It seems as if focus peaking during shooting is just becoming mainstream, as the GX7, launched after the GH3, now has it.

oh, that looks like something, i wouldn't have even known about the model if you hadn't mentioned it. but i just don't feel like I can give up the viewfinder, how can i shoot without seeing through the lens? it would feel so unnatural... I'm now going through Camcorders | B&H Photo Video this section of the B&H website to get a better idea of my options

i might just keep the k-5 for photos and get a video camera for video, it seems like a better idea than trying to compromise with both in the same device.

11-13-2013, 07:10 AM	#35
tripodquest Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 249	Originally posted by TomGarn The K-3 - after all true and meaningfull dissapointement - is a good step forward. But also important soon to come: Pentax should be willing to fix their mistakes quickly with a meaningfull firmware patch. If they can manage to learn out of their bad mistakes RICOH - Pentax can have e future. Let's hope so. The k-3 and other recent cameras are a big step forward but considering how fast new technology is developed these days, I'm not too impressed. Hey, now that I'm talking to video people... if I skipped telecining and shot the projected image with a HDSLR (the cheapest way to transfer film to digital!), how would I fix the distortion? I know there are programs that do this that cost a lot of money, but can any of the free ones (kino, cinelerra, avidemux, openshot, and so on) do this? if I could easily transfer my films to digital, that would make getting a s16 modified bolex a lot more attractive not having to worry about telecining costs. (just the cost of film...) Last edited by tripodquest; 11-13-2013 at 07:20 AM.

11-13-2013, 04:36 PM	#43
tripodquest Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 249	Originally posted by johnmflores Adapting is easy, just 1 adapter: if you read my next comment, you'd know that i'm not seriously looking into gh-2 and other options... what other choices do I have in 1080p 24p video? i'm not up to the latest devices, help me get with the times (haha) edit: never mind, I'm looking into it myself now. i'm really disappointed that the pentax k-3 doesn't have focus peaking during video. with manual glass, it's great that you can set the focus with the help of the focus peaking in the beginning, but not having it during video assumes that the scene is static and no focus adjustments are necessary, or that the focus markings on the lens are always correct... Last edited by tripodquest; 11-13-2013 at 04:47 PM.

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11-13-2013, 06:59 AM	#31
tripodquest Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 249	There was a lot of talk about the k-3 being able to output raw video through hdmi to anything that can process and record a raw video signal through hdmi, now that they're actually out, has anyone tested this? i still don't know if the k-3 can do that or not.

11-13-2013, 06:59 AM	#32
grispie Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by TomGarn Or you do try to sell it all and make a new start nah, there will always be something i guess. + I also make photos.... love pentax & their lens lineup for that. I just wish they'd put a bit more effort into the video area. How hard can it be ? (maybe it is, i don't know..:-)

11-13-2013, 07:02 AM	#33
tripodquest Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 249	Originally posted by grispie I just wish they'd put a bit more effort into the video area. How hard can it be ? haha, that's exactly what I think too!

11-13-2013, 07:08 AM	#34
TomGarn Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Hamburg Posts: 339 Original Poster	Originally posted by tripodquest haha, that's exactly what I think too! The K-3 - after all true and meaningfull dissapointement - is a good step forward. But also important soon to come: Pentax should be willing to fix their mistakes quickly with a meaningfull firmware patch. If they can manage to learn out of their bad mistakes RICOH - Pentax can have e future.

11-13-2013, 08:11 AM	#36
tripodquest Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 249	Originally posted by TomGarn I loved to film with my father's 8mm Bolex that was manually turned on ... before I had my own super 8 Nizo ... But make this another thread please. I did... :)

11-13-2013, 09:00 AM	#37
TomGarn Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Hamburg Posts: 339 Original Poster	° To sum it up a little just read the Pentax Forum's Review on K-3 video possibilities. Here I learned even more about some additional flaws in this freaky camera, ridiculously inacceptable in comparisson to all those better video DSLRs. Pentax K-3 Review - Movie/Video Mode - PentaxForums.com

11-13-2013, 09:44 AM - 1 Like	#38
tripodquest Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 249	Originally posted by TomGarn ° To sum it up a little just read the Pentax Forum's Review on K-3 video possibilities. Here I learned even more about some additional flaws in this freaky camera, ridiculously inacceptable in comparisson to all those better video DSLRs. Pentax K-3 Review - Movie/Video Mode - PentaxForums.com wow... i had to stop reading even before I got properly started.... that's just grossly unacceptable... I'll look long and hard before deciding what system to go with, but it won't be pentax. i was looking forward to a k-3 for the "new&improved" video capabilities, now I have to say I rather shell out a few grand more for something decent, whatever it is, if this low budget stuff is really this disappointing.

11-13-2013, 10:12 AM	#39
TomGarn Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Hamburg Posts: 339 Original Poster	Originally posted by tripodquest wow... i had to stop reading even before I got properly started.... that's just grossly unacceptable... I'll look long and hard before deciding what system to go with, but it won't be pentax. i was looking forward to a k-3 for the "new&improved" video capabilities, now I have to say I rather shell out a few grand more for something decent, whatever it is, if this low budget stuff is really this disappointing. If your children are handicapped you will still love them and hope for their very best ... But nowadays we could find out before ... and decide not to stay pregnant. Some my feel this is a little harsh and cruel - but it also is our freedom to decide.

11-13-2013, 02:40 PM	#40
grispie Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,199	Blunty seems happy... funny, at a given moment he talks about the low pass filter and the effect of on/off "and especially in video". am i confused or is he. the low pass filter is in the photo menu, or would it affect video as well?

11-13-2013, 04:28 PM - 1 Like	#41
tripodquest Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 249	Originally posted by TomGarn If your children are handicapped you will still love them and hope for their very best ... But nowadays we could find out before ... and decide not to stay pregnant. Some my feel this is a little harsh and cruel - but it also is our freedom to decide. no i agree, we have the freedom to choose now... if the companies fail to provide, then we choose not to buy... more freedom of choice now. though sometimes it almost feels like less, especially if all the products to choose between are essentially the same

11-13-2013, 04:34 PM	#42
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by tripodquest That's great! But it would be annoying if every lense had to be individually adapted and even then you'd have to wonder if they work. I think I'll just try to get the most out of k-3. Like you said, the camera we want hasn't been made. Adapting is easy, just 1 adapter:

11-13-2013, 04:57 PM	#44
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by tripodquest if you read my next comment, you'd know that i'm not seriously looking into gh-2 and other options... what other choices do I have in 1080p 24p video? i'm not up to the latest devices, help me get with the times (haha) edit: never mind, I'm looking into it myself now. i'm really disappointed that the pentax k-3 doesn't have focus peaking during video. with manual glass, it's great that you can set the focus with the help of the focus peaking in the beginning, but not having it during video assumes that the scene is static and no focus adjustments are necessary, or that the focus markings on the lens are always correct... The lack of focus peaking may be disappointing but not surprising. Even the GH3 lacks it, which made a lot of folks unhappy. I use an external monitor with focus peaking on my GH2 but it's one more device to keep track of when shooting. It seems as if focus peaking during shooting is just becoming mainstream, as the GX7, launched after the GH3, now has it.

11-13-2013, 05:11 PM	#45
tripodquest Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 249	Originally posted by johnmflores The lack of focus peaking may be disappointing but not surprising. Even the GH3 lacks it, which made a lot of folks unhappy. I use an external monitor with focus peaking on my GH2 but it's one more device to keep track of when shooting. It seems as if focus peaking during shooting is just becoming mainstream, as the GX7, launched after the GH3, now has it. oh, that looks like something, i wouldn't have even known about the model if you hadn't mentioned it. but i just don't feel like I can give up the viewfinder, how can i shoot without seeing through the lens? it would feel so unnatural... I'm now going through Camcorders \| B&H Photo Video this section of the B&H website to get a better idea of my options i might just keep the k-5 for photos and get a video camera for video, it seems like a better idea than trying to compromise with both in the same device.

K-3 Video competitive now ?

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