Roar 4 Life

PiDicus Rex · 03-08-2015, 05:38 AM

Title is the name of a mate-ettes healthy living Youtube channel, clips shot using K-01 as the main camera and a JVC-HD7 handheld with a screw on wide-angle lens.
Audio recorded separately,. And the edit done by another crew member for the Purple Robe Productions team.

You Tube

kadajawi · 03-08-2015, 07:56 AM

The cameras really don't match... the K-01 output is much more pleasant looking. The JVC has completely different colors... maybe try to match it in post? At least a bit? And maybe she is standing too much in the shadows... any way of filling in some light?

Steve.Ledger · 03-08-2015, 01:30 PM

Yeh, the switch between cameras is dead obvious and spoils it. Did that JVC have a wide-angle lens adapter? Because the CA and OOF edges looks like it did (I had one for a SANYO camcorder years ago which gave the same awful effect).
I agree about the shadows, defo' needed a video light there.

PiDicus Rex · 03-09-2015, 03:57 AM

Originally posted by kadajawi

maybe try to match it in post?

See that note about me not being the editor,.....

Originally posted by Steve.Ledger

Did that JVC have a wide-angle lens adapter? Because the CA and OOF edges looks like it did (I had one for a SANYO camcorder years ago which gave the same awful effect).

See in the original post where it says Screw On Wide-Angle,...

I have a colour profile preset made up in my effect bin on Edius, that I just drag and drop on to the JVC footage to match it reasonably closely to the K-01's 'natural' profile.
We stuck a big umbrella over the host to stop her squinting - it was a VERY bright day - and I had the AD holding down the Fleckie with gold bounce to stop it catching the wind coming over the top of the house we were filming at.

Hopefully at the next shoot for that webchannel there will be both enough crew to do the job better, and more matched cameras.
Though I don't know if matching a BMD 4K and an A7s is going to be difficult.

Last edited by PiDicus Rex; 03-09-2015 at 04:03 AM.

Steve.Ledger · 03-09-2015, 04:27 AM - **1 Like**

Ha, nope - I totally missed that part in your post..!

kadajawi · 03-09-2015, 04:47 AM

I did read the wide angle part :P

Maybe use a Filmconvert supported setting and use the same film for the footage? I'd expect the footage to match then, if I understand it correctly. Of course that means acquiring a license, but it's a pretty nice bit of software anyway.

PiDicus Rex · 03-09-2015, 04:55 AM

If you look closely, you'll see that blurring is stronger on the right side then the left - I think the sensor block has shifted off center, one of the reasons I only use it as a B-Camera or Behind Scenes camera.
The HD7 was pretty damn good in most respects when it was launched, excepting it's slow as heck OIS and JVC never enabling the firewire port for any other device then the JVC DVD burner.
Used for skating videos (like the guy I bought mine from did) or Motorsport, it's actually very good, 3CCD, no rolling shutter, half decent zoom range.

richandfleur · 03-11-2015, 01:04 PM

Looks like the K-01 does the typical Pentax trick of overall lower exposure to retain the highlights. I actually really like that, as the sensors nowadays do very well as far as shadow recovery goes.
In this case though applying a correction to the Pentax footage could have pulled it much more towards the JVC.
White balance is off between the two shots, as well as saturation and exposure.
I think you'd have to pull the Pentax up, as I expect a lot is blown on the JVC, and for this type of thing it's output probably suits the final image look anyway better to start with?

Nothing that couldn't be adjusted fairly quickly really, and I take your comment about not being the editor

Thanks for the post.

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03-08-2015, 07:56 AM	#2
kadajawi Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,799	The cameras really don't match... the K-01 output is much more pleasant looking. The JVC has completely different colors... maybe try to match it in post? At least a bit? And maybe she is standing too much in the shadows... any way of filling in some light?

03-08-2015, 01:30 PM	#3
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	Yeh, the switch between cameras is dead obvious and spoils it. Did that JVC have a wide-angle lens adapter? Because the CA and OOF edges looks like it did (I had one for a SANYO camcorder years ago which gave the same awful effect). I agree about the shadows, defo' needed a video light there.

03-09-2015, 03:57 AM	#4
PiDicus Rex Veteran Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,381 Original Poster	Originally posted by kadajawi maybe try to match it in post? See that note about me not being the editor,..... Originally posted by Steve.Ledger Did that JVC have a wide-angle lens adapter? Because the CA and OOF edges looks like it did (I had one for a SANYO camcorder years ago which gave the same awful effect). See in the original post where it says Screw On Wide-Angle,... I have a colour profile preset made up in my effect bin on Edius, that I just drag and drop on to the JVC footage to match it reasonably closely to the K-01's 'natural' profile. We stuck a big umbrella over the host to stop her squinting - it was a VERY bright day - and I had the AD holding down the Fleckie with gold bounce to stop it catching the wind coming over the top of the house we were filming at. Hopefully at the next shoot for that webchannel there will be both enough crew to do the job better, and more matched cameras. Though I don't know if matching a BMD 4K and an A7s is going to be difficult. Last edited by PiDicus Rex; 03-09-2015 at 04:03 AM.

03-09-2015, 04:27 AM - 1 Like	#5
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	Ha, nope - I totally missed that part in your post..!

03-09-2015, 04:47 AM	#6
kadajawi Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,799	I did read the wide angle part :P Maybe use a Filmconvert supported setting and use the same film for the footage? I'd expect the footage to match then, if I understand it correctly. Of course that means acquiring a license, but it's a pretty nice bit of software anyway.

03-09-2015, 04:55 AM	#7
PiDicus Rex Veteran Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,381 Original Poster	If you look closely, you'll see that blurring is stronger on the right side then the left - I think the sensor block has shifted off center, one of the reasons I only use it as a B-Camera or Behind Scenes camera. The HD7 was pretty damn good in most respects when it was launched, excepting it's slow as heck OIS and JVC never enabling the firewire port for any other device then the JVC DVD burner. Used for skating videos (like the guy I bought mine from did) or Motorsport, it's actually very good, 3CCD, no rolling shutter, half decent zoom range.

03-11-2015, 01:04 PM	#8
richandfleur Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand Photos: Albums Posts: 1,788	Looks like the K-01 does the typical Pentax trick of overall lower exposure to retain the highlights. I actually really like that, as the sensors nowadays do very well as far as shadow recovery goes. In this case though applying a correction to the Pentax footage could have pulled it much more towards the JVC. White balance is off between the two shots, as well as saturation and exposure. I think you'd have to pull the Pentax up, as I expect a lot is blown on the JVC, and for this type of thing it's output probably suits the final image look anyway better to start with? Nothing that couldn't be adjusted fairly quickly really, and I take your comment about not being the editor Thanks for the post.