NEX-5N vs EP-3

Unsinkable II · 08-26-2011, 09:11 PM

Wow......

NEX-5N demolishes EP-3 at high ISOs (even beats 5D Mk II, Nikon D7000) | EOSHD.com

nickthetasmaniac · 08-26-2011, 11:36 PM

Looks like a bloody good sensor, although a fairly predictable result (given the performance of the other 16mp Sony sensors and the past 12mp Oly/Pana sensors).

I don't get this comment though... High-iso performance of the Pens has always been the weakness, and yet people still buy and love them. I think the 'Olympus flagship' is going to be just fine...

Olympus’s flagship is in trouble. Reports show that at ISO 12,800 the NEX 5N thrashes the EP-3 and moves ahead of even the 5D Mk II, Nikon D7000 and Panasonic GH2 for low light image quality.

Duh_Vinci · 08-27-2011, 08:04 AM

Interesting indeed! Thanks for sharing!

For almost a year now, I have been contemplating on "what to buy" in terms of compact, yet customizable hybrid camera that I can carry with me just about anywhere, but the lack of fast 40-50mm primes deterred me from buying anything up to this point... Additionally, good high ISO performance is important to me equally - this 5N "may" actually be the answer, considering new fast 50mm to be out soon as well...

Regards,
D

nosnoop · 08-28-2011, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by Unsinkable II

Wow......
NEX-5N demolishes EP-3 at high ISOs (even beats 5D Mk II, Nikon D7000) | EOSHD.com

But it's a pity that there is no hot shoe and no wireless flash capabilities in NEX-5N.
Apart from available lighting photography, I need to have decent flash capabilities as well.

Actually, even the E-PM1 has wireless flash control with its bundled flash. So I can get flash photo with E-PM1 that looks miles better than that of the NEX-5N.

ltdstar · 08-29-2011, 01:51 AM

The Sony NEX line need some pancakes like a Pentax 40mm to be more pocket friendly. I was looking to get an older Pentax 40mm pancakes but the K-NEX adapter thickness makes it not worthwhile.

nosnoop you might want to look at the NEX 7 if you want flash. Or you might want to try to tape (to your NEX flash) an optical trigger to a wireless trigger to fire off your lights remotely.

Emacs · 08-29-2011, 02:51 AM

Can't find the 5d mk II samples on that page.
And it looks like this sony sensor performs like a piece of sh1t at base iso: too much noise. That is the pain with K-5 too.

Emacs · 08-29-2011, 02:58 AM

Originally posted by ltdstar

The Sony NEX line need some pancakes like a Pentax 40mm to be more pocket friendly. I was looking to get an older Pentax 40mm pancakes but the K-NEX adapter thickness makes it not worthwhile.

nosnoop you might want to look at the NEX 7 if you want flash. Or you might want to try to tape (to your NEX flash) an optical trigger to a wireless trigger to fire off your lights remotely.

Wait for NX20. Their pancakes are better than pentax's ones and they promised their newer sensors will be much better. I especially would like to see proper high and uniformly distributed DR, not just the ability to pull the shadows up as on the K-5. At least, the APS-C EXMOR tends to have a weak distribution in highlights and this leads to strong annoying noise in bright areas (the sky suffers from it very much).

deejjjaaaa · 08-29-2011, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by nickthetasmaniac

Looks like a bloody good sensor, although a fairly predictable result (given the performance of the other 16mp Sony sensors and the past 12mp Oly/Pana sensors).

even 12mp 4 generations old (12mp mkI /Kx/ -> 12mp mkII /Kr/ -> 16mp -> 24mp ) Sony sensor will beat 12mp Panasonic sensor...

Blue · 08-29-2011, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by Emacs

Wait for NX20. Their pancakes are better than pentax's ones and they promised their newer sensors will be much better. I especially would like to see proper high and uniformly distributed DR, not just the ability to pull the shadows up as on the K-5. At least, the APS-C EXMOR tends to have a weak distribution in highlights and this leads to strong annoying noise in bright areas (the sky suffers from it very much).

deadwolfbones · 08-29-2011, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by Emacs

That is the pain with K-5 too.

I have to say I haven't experienced this at all when the exposure is correct.

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08-26-2011, 11:36 PM	#2
nickthetasmaniac Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 2,361	Looks like a bloody good sensor, although a fairly predictable result (given the performance of the other 16mp Sony sensors and the past 12mp Oly/Pana sensors). I don't get this comment though... High-iso performance of the Pens has always been the weakness, and yet people still buy and love them. I think the 'Olympus flagship' is going to be just fine... Olympus’s flagship is in trouble. Reports show that at ISO 12,800 the NEX 5N thrashes the EP-3 and moves ahead of even the 5D Mk II, Nikon D7000 and Panasonic GH2 for low light image quality.

08-27-2011, 08:04 AM	#3
Duh_Vinci Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,300	Interesting indeed! Thanks for sharing! For almost a year now, I have been contemplating on "what to buy" in terms of compact, yet customizable hybrid camera that I can carry with me just about anywhere, but the lack of fast 40-50mm primes deterred me from buying anything up to this point... Additionally, good high ISO performance is important to me equally - this 5N "may" actually be the answer, considering new fast 50mm to be out soon as well... Regards, D

08-28-2011, 11:50 PM	#4
nosnoop Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,299	Originally posted by Unsinkable II Wow...... NEX-5N demolishes EP-3 at high ISOs (even beats 5D Mk II, Nikon D7000) \| EOSHD.com But it's a pity that there is no hot shoe and no wireless flash capabilities in NEX-5N. Apart from available lighting photography, I need to have decent flash capabilities as well. Actually, even the E-PM1 has wireless flash control with its bundled flash. So I can get flash photo with E-PM1 that looks miles better than that of the NEX-5N.

08-29-2011, 01:51 AM	#5
ltdstar Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 285	The Sony NEX line need some pancakes like a Pentax 40mm to be more pocket friendly. I was looking to get an older Pentax 40mm pancakes but the K-NEX adapter thickness makes it not worthwhile. nosnoop you might want to look at the NEX 7 if you want flash. Or you might want to try to tape (to your NEX flash) an optical trigger to a wireless trigger to fire off your lights remotely.

08-29-2011, 02:51 AM	#6
Emacs Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Moscow Posts: 1,223	Can't find the 5d mk II samples on that page. And it looks like this sony sensor performs like a piece of sh1t at base iso: too much noise. That is the pain with K-5 too.

08-29-2011, 02:58 AM	#7
Emacs Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Moscow Posts: 1,223	Originally posted by ltdstar The Sony NEX line need some pancakes like a Pentax 40mm to be more pocket friendly. I was looking to get an older Pentax 40mm pancakes but the K-NEX adapter thickness makes it not worthwhile. nosnoop you might want to look at the NEX 7 if you want flash. Or you might want to try to tape (to your NEX flash) an optical trigger to a wireless trigger to fire off your lights remotely. Wait for NX20. Their pancakes are better than pentax's ones and they promised their newer sensors will be much better. I especially would like to see proper high and uniformly distributed DR, not just the ability to pull the shadows up as on the K-5. At least, the APS-C EXMOR tends to have a weak distribution in highlights and this leads to strong annoying noise in bright areas (the sky suffers from it very much).

08-29-2011, 08:09 AM	#8
deejjjaaaa Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: steel city / rust belt Posts: 2,043	Originally posted by nickthetasmaniac Looks like a bloody good sensor, although a fairly predictable result (given the performance of the other 16mp Sony sensors and the past 12mp Oly/Pana sensors). even 12mp 4 generations old (12mp mkI /Kx/ -> 12mp mkII /Kr/ -> 16mp -> 24mp ) Sony sensor will beat 12mp Panasonic sensor...

08-29-2011, 08:11 AM	#9
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by Emacs Wait for NX20. *Their pancakes are better than pentax's ones* and they promised their newer sensors will be much better. I especially would like to see proper high and uniformly distributed DR, not just the ability to pull the shadows up as on the K-5. At least, the APS-C EXMOR tends to have a weak distribution in highlights and this leads to strong annoying noise in bright areas (the sky suffers from it very much).

08-29-2011, 10:12 AM	#10
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450	Originally posted by Emacs That is the pain with K-5 too. I have to say I haven't experienced this at all when the exposure is correct.