[jsherman999]

So you're really considering the move to the D800, sherm?
The only thing that is holding me back is the size of the raw files...

Cant resist the D800 aye?

It's controlling my mind.


Truthfully, it's just gear lust, the D700 is still far more than anyone like me needs. (Translation: I need more time to convince myself.)

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[Jasvox]

So you're really considering the move to the D800, sherm?
The only thing that is holding me back is the size of the raw files...

Memory and RAM are at an all time low price and only getting lower.

Jason

[noons]

Except HDD's aren't, thanks to the floods in Thailand - and that's what I was referring to.

[Coeurdechene]

dgaies what has made you collect three different systems???!! Why in heavens name would you need 2 FF arrangements
(there's a bit of envy in my words.. my better half would decapitate me and hang my head over the house walls as an example if i dared even mention the possibility of expanding my pentax modest setup if i buy the d800).

After reading a lot and seeing the high ISO examples out there http://www.ferra.ru/ru/digiphoto/review/Nikon-D800-preview/print/ i'm pretty much convinced to buy one.
The thing is that i'm starting to work photographing events, fashion shows,... and if my kx has been able to deliver decent results i'm sure i'll be able to work around those specs that do not make this a perfect event camera. ISO 800 and iso 1600 are good enough (wich is all i've needed so far from my kx in the sensitivity department)...
Shooting at base iso 100, that kind of resolution coupled with my flashes will enable me to pursue what i really like in fotography: studio fotography and outdoors lighting, i'm already dreaming about big prints and insane detail

Sherman maybe it would be a good idea to hold on to your d700 till the d800 price drops a bit, and till the production model is fully tested, maybe keep the d700 as a second body and an usefull one when those 4 fps aren't enough....(i'm not talking about low light situations since i think that printed at the same size both cameras will perform similarly at high iso's.)

[jsherman999]

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Sherman maybe it would be a good idea to hold on to your d700 till the d800 price drops a bit, and till the production model is fully tested, maybe keep the d700 as a second body and an usefull one when those 4 fps aren't enough....(i'm not talking about low light situations since i think that printed at the same size both cameras will perform similarly at high iso's.)

Oh, I know, I'm only kicking around the idea. At any rate I'm not doing anything until we have some professional reviews and the camera has been in the hands of some serious shooters for a while.

[Samsungian]

$200 more and you could have 645D, body only...


Nice full frame kits you have there.

I'm kidding about the 645D being just $200 more than a 2012 tech D800 though indeed it is $200 more than the Nikon kit you mentioned. D800 thethers out the the box too.

As great a deal 645D is compared to other Medium format options, for same money one can have D800, 3 highly regarded zooms and a 2012 tech flash, and a nice steak dinner out with the wife, two tanks of gas and some meter change to spare.

I'm happy with two full frame kits. My wife and I shoot.
We share glass, not cameras.
Picked up 5D II over the holidays for under $2000 new.
B&H tossed in $740 worth of goodies to sweeten the deal.
Not just for me, deal ran a couple weeks, ended 12-21-11.

I may get a 2nd brand new 5D II when it drops to $1800 around May 2012 from the funds I recoup selling my two 2008 vintage 5D.
Looking back, after 36mp D800 announcement I wish I had bought two $1,999 5D Mark II B&H Holiday Specials.
I'm not excited about adding a 36mp Nikon Dslr to my kit right now.
But I am happy for Nikon, D700 never routinuely outsold 5D Mark II, I'm guessing D800 will dominate 5D Mark II sales. As it should.
That said, D700 remains the very best camera I've owned.
5D II is pretty sweet, real glad I got one, it isn't up to D700 build quality, weatherseals, frame rate, the 5D Mark II is best camera I own with Eos Mount.
I like 5D II better than my first two 5D, though they still are great full frame cameras, 5D II did improve upon some things that I like having now.

I'm not real interested in buying D800 at $3,000.
Though its an aggressive price point that I assume will force Canon to be below when they launch 5D Mark III with fewer megapixels, 21-22 is the popular myth thesedays.

Then again, if Canon gets ridiculously aggressive on 5D III price I suspect Nikon will cave as they did when within 6 months of D700 launch, it went from $2999 to under $2300. I dropped $2320 on my brand new D700 some 38 months ago now. For $2300 or so I'd buy D800 instead of 5D mark II at my guess, $1800 new in May 2012. Once I added Canon to my Pentax kit, adding Nikon became easier. I suspect I'll cash out of Pentax, though Ricoh appears to be a great fit, 3 brands in my house is one brand too many. Be fun to recoup the Pentax monies to spend on more full frame glass from either Nikon or Canon or both.

I've noticed, Great prices on new gear in USA don't last, one must check B&H daily and act when price is right.

I'm happy for remaining Pentax owners, Ricoh may actually bank roll K Mount Full Frame Dslr whether others want it or not, I sure did, well by mid 2008 when I gave up on Hoya and added Canon 5D to my Pentax System.
I studied B&H Canon Eos prices from late 2006 onward and noticed their annual Holiday pricing trend and May end of the line Dslr pricing trends too.
Canon is very predictabile for people who want best price.
Pentax FF-K Dslr wouldn't suprise me now, seeing all the happenings going on lately.
Ricoh seems genuinely excited about growing Pentax.

This isn't my specific system, but for less than half of your 20-24k number you can get the brand new D800 with all three of Nikons top f/2.8 zooms and their top end flash.

D800 - $3000
14-24/2.8G - $2000
24-70/2.8G - $1900
70-200/2.8VRII - $2400
SB-910 - $500

Total cost = $9800



My current Nikon FF system was all purchased used, in like new condition (which is how I buy all of my gear).
D700 - $2000
24-70/2.8G - $1400
70-200/2.8VRII - $1800
1.4x, 1.7x. 2.0x TCs - $900
28-300VR - $750
50/1.8D - $50

Total cost = $6900


My current Sony FF system, again purchased used, but everything was in like-new condition
A850 - $1050
Zeiss 16-35/2.8 - $1250
Sony 35/1.4G - $950
Sony 50/1.4 - $275
Zeiss 85/1.4 - $1000
Zeiss 135/1.8 - $1075

Total cost = $5600

[dgaies]

dgaies what has made you collect three different systems???!! Why in heavens name would you need 2 FF arrangements
(there's a bit of envy in my words.. my better half would decapitate me and hang my head over the house walls as an example if i dared even mention the possibility of expanding my pentax modest setup if i buy the d800).

I don't have a good answer, and I'll certainly acknowledge that it's a bit excessive

The Pentax system I've had for 5 years, and when I decided to give the D700 a try, I wasn't ready to get rid of [all of] my Pentax kit. The Sony FF system was somewhat of an impulsive purchase, which started with a great deal on the A850 and 85/1.4 and kind of took off from there. I certainly don't plan on keeping three systems long term, but I'm kind of waiting to see how things play out with the next round of body releases from Pentax/Nikon/Sony before making any [more] impulsive decisions.

[joe.penn]

I certainly don't plan on keeping three systems long term

Me <- waving hands in the air yelling "Here!" if you decide to part with the Silver K5 (thought I would put dibs in now)

[dgaies]

Me <- waving hands in the air yelling "Here!" if you decide to part with the Silver K5 (thought I would put dibs in now)

Unfortunately I never ended up keeping it. The one I bought had the infamous K-5 sensor stains (despite being manufactured well after the issue was suppose to be resolved) so I ended up sending it back