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04-12-2013, 05:22 AM   #16
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Can someone tell more about ProRes?

- filesize
- editing
- quality

- power needed in the camera to produce this (It's around 22 MB/s so that about the amount that K-01 can produce, so would this be possible with just as much power as PRIME M?)

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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
Can someone tell more about ProRes?

- filesize
- editing
- quality

- power needed in the camera to produce this (It's around 22 MB/s so that about the amount that K-01 can produce, so would this be possible with just as much power as PRIME M?)
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Well a lot has happened.

They have brought out a MFT version as well, which seems to be much better suited for the Super16 sensor, now if only the mount was an active one...

And over 2 months a fullHD pocket version with active MFT mount is hitting the selves.

And 4k version with a super35 (almost FF) sensor and a new shutter.

It’s Official: Introducing Blackmagic 4K & Pocket Cinema Cameras for $4K and $1K - nofilmschool
NAB Video: Blackmagic 4K and Pocket Cameras - nofilmschool
21.12 x 11.88mm is not almost full frame like my Sony NEX-VG900 that is 35.8 x 23.9mm.

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But Pentax is not a film company
...except that they are. Pentax medium format film cameras are still in the product line.

Medium-Format Cameras : Film Cameras | PENTAX RICOH IMAGING

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That you american use the word video for it is not my problem
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21.12 x 11.88mm is not almost full frame like my Sony NEX-VG900 that is 35.8 x 23.9mm.
FF means it's full frame. So that it fills the whole size of a standard size.

But it's indeed almost 135 format film though

BMC 4K is 22.12mm wide while 135 format is 24mm wide so yes, 1,88 mm differnce is called almost
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QuoteOriginally posted by jogiba Quote
21.12 x 11.88mm is not almost full frame like my Sony NEX-VG900 that is 35.8 x 23.9mm.
No idea what your photo tries to proof though, they are both. The one on the left is not the BMC 4k

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No idea what your photo tries to proof though, they are both. The one on the left is not the BMC 4k
That is a photo of a Sony video camera with APS-C sensor next to the Sony NEX-VG900 with full frame sensor. Here is the FOV comparison of the current BMCC vs full frame :



The new 4K BMCC has 21.12 x 11.88mm sensor that is much smaller than the full frame Sony NEX-VG900 and even smaller than the APS-C sensor in the other Sony video camera.


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QuoteOriginally posted by jogiba Quote
The new 4K BMCC has 21.12 x 11.88mm sensor that is much smaller than the full frame Sony NEX-VG900 and even small than the APS-C sensor in the other Sony video camera.
Funny is that the Pentax K-01 uses about the same sensorsize for video as this camera with a crop off around 1.7x and 21,xxmm wide sensorarea.

P.S. There are some mix-ups in camera's and sensorsizes inhere I think. Well BMCC now has 3 different camera's, with all different sensors and output, so they do serve very different customers.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jogiba Quote
That is a photo of a Sony video camera with APS-C sensor next to the Sony NEX-VG900 with full frame sensor. Here is the FOV comparison of the current BMCC vs full frame :



The new 4K BMCC has 21.12 x 11.88mm sensor that is much smaller than the full frame Sony NEX-VG900 and even small than the APS-C sensor in the other Sony video camera.

Sorry i took the wrong dimensions.

But it's almost fullframe super 35 though
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ps. it really is 22.12mm btw
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Sensor Size 21.12 x 11.88mm (Super 35)

Blackmagic Design Blackmagic Production Camera 4K

I guess someone should tell B&H they have the wrong sensor size.

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Effective Sensor Size

21.12mm x 11.88mm (Super 35).
http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicproductioncamera4k/techspecs
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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
Funny is that the Pentax K-01 uses about the same sensorsize for video as this camera with a crop off around 1.7x and 21,xxmm wide sensorarea.

P.S. There are some mix-ups in camera's and sensorsizes inhere I think. Well BMCC now has 3 different camera's, with all different sensors and output, so they do serve very different customers.
The K-01 has an APS-C (23.7 x 15.7 mm) sensor so it's about 2.5mm wider than the BMCC 4K camera.
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Blackmagic Design Blackmagic Production Camera 4K

I guess someone should tell B&H they have the wrong sensor size.

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Blackmagic Design: Blackmagic Production Camera 4K Tech Specs
Haha okay so which one is correct?

As for the K-01 an K30, i believe it crop the sensor when filming although i'm not certain.
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