Nikon announces 24MP D3200

twitch · 04-19-2012, 03:00 AM

Wow, Nikon are on a roll lately

Nikon updates entry-level DSLR with 24MP D3200 and optional WiFi: Digital Photography Review

TOUGEFC · 04-19-2012, 03:03 AM

My quote from another thread talking about it-

Originally posted by TOUGEFC

Clearly from Nikon latest camera's the mp race is far from over, it is smart marketing and they are going for the kill this year.

Most "entry level DSLR" buyers are beginners and dont know better and will natrually will go for whatever has the most megapixels.

Pentax sure has some tough times ahead...

twitch · 04-19-2012, 03:06 AM

Originally posted by TOUGEFC

My quote from another thread talking about it-

I think "more of the same" from Pentax is not going to cut it this year

rawr · 04-19-2012, 03:30 AM

24MP will find it's way into the K-r replacement, I bet.

causey · 04-19-2012, 04:00 AM

Originally posted by rawr

24MP will find it's way into the K-r replacement, I bet.

Not K-5's 16mp? Would both K-r replacement and the more distant K-5 replacement have the same 24mp sensor?

TOUGEFC · 04-19-2012, 04:04 AM

Originally posted by causey

Would both K-r replacement and the more distant K-5 replacement have the same 24mp sensor?

What other choice's do they have?

Patajac · 04-19-2012, 04:10 AM

thats way to many mp for that type of camera
useless feature except for hdd manufacturers

**Ash** · 04-19-2012, 04:15 AM

There are only a few sensor manufacturers around - it's just a matter of Pentax getting their bodies ready to accommodate the sensors...
I've liked the Sony sensors thus far...

causey · 04-19-2012, 04:19 AM

I'd prefer less mp and cleaner pixels.

RonHendriks1966 · 04-19-2012, 07:24 AM

How big are those files from D3200? I guess most users will have a kitlens and shoot in jpg.

Biggest problem with al those megapixels is that every lovely girl turns into a very hairy bunny again

eddie1960 · 04-19-2012, 07:44 AM

I'm guessing from the specs this is a crippled version of the nex 7 sensor with worse processing etc. (it maxes at 6400iso)
but it still changes the game for everyone else. Entry level people buy on numbers they don't understand but think are important (this receiver has 100 watts per channel it must be good, wow this camcorder is 1 lux it must be good

)

They really have canon in their sites this year

bwDraco · 04-19-2012, 07:51 AM

I don't see why a user considering a lower entry-level camera would need 24 megapixels. I'd say 16 megapixels is best for the typical user at this level, and there's no way the Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm lens will resolve 24 megapixels of detail. A 24-megapixel sensor is diffraction limited at f/7.4 (see Digital Camera Diffraction – Resolution, Color & Micro-Contrast), so this extra resolution probably isn't useful.

Leave these high-resolution sensors to midrange class and semi-professional class cameras; they don't belong in the entry-level class.

--DragonLord

RonHendriks1966 · 04-19-2012, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by DragonLord

Leave these high-resolution sensors to midrange class and semi-professional class cameras; they don't belong in the entry-level class.

--DragonLord

Maybe the problem is the image quality from this sensor. You can sell this to a noob, but once in a D400 to use with hi-value lenses the user is much more demanding on performance in a sportsarena shooting at iso3200.

einstrigger · 04-19-2012, 09:21 AM

I bet Nikon will sell a boat load of these, since you're more than likely to see them at Walmart, Target, Costco, and other big-box stores. The guy manning the electronics counter won't know any better when Joe Schmoe or Soccer Mom walks up to him and asks, "Which camera do you think is better?"

I'm sure the response would be something like "Well, this Canon is 18MP and that Nikon is 24MP. I'd probably go with the 24MP..."

I've seen a similar situation play out before my eyes at my local Fry's.

eddie1960 · 04-19-2012, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by einstrigger

I bet Nikon will sell a boat load of these, since you're more than likely to see them at Walmart, Target, Costco, and other big-box stores. The guy manning the electronics counter won't know any better when Joe Schmoe or Soccer Mom walks up to him and asks, "Which camera do you think is better?"

I'm sure the response would be something like "Well, this Canon is 18MP and that Nikon is 24MP. I'd probably go with the 24MP..."

I've seen a similar situation play out before my eyes at my local Fry's.

this is exactly what will happen, and it's how nikon will steal huge share from canon

looking at the russian forum post from ogl i imagine the pentax line looks like

16mp entry (k-o1 w/ ovf)
WR KR replacement (hopefully with marginally crippled 24mp sensor to battle Nikon)
K5 replacement - 24mp with the bells and whistles sensor fully enabled (no artificial limitation on iso for example)
and a FF

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04-19-2012, 03:03 AM	#2
TOUGEFC Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Brisbane Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,561	My quote from another thread talking about it- Originally posted by TOUGEFC Clearly from Nikon latest camera's the mp race is far from over, it is smart marketing and they are going for the kill this year. Most "entry level DSLR" buyers are beginners and dont know better and will natrually will go for whatever has the most megapixels. Pentax sure has some tough times ahead...

04-19-2012, 03:06 AM	#3
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571 Original Poster	Originally posted by TOUGEFC My quote from another thread talking about it- I think "more of the same" from Pentax is not going to cut it this year

04-19-2012, 03:30 AM	#4
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	24MP will find it's way into the K-r replacement, I bet.

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causey Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arlington, VA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,757	Originally posted by rawr 24MP will find it's way into the K-r replacement, I bet. Not K-5's 16mp? Would both K-r replacement and the more distant K-5 replacement have the same 24mp sensor?

04-19-2012, 04:04 AM	#6
TOUGEFC Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Brisbane Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,561	Originally posted by causey Would both K-r replacement and the more distant K-5 replacement have the same 24mp sensor? What other choice's do they have?

04-19-2012, 04:10 AM	#7
Patajac Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 241	thats way to many mp for that type of camera useless feature except for hdd manufacturers

04-19-2012, 04:15 AM	#8
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	There are only a few sensor manufacturers around - it's just a matter of Pentax getting their bodies ready to accommodate the sensors... I've liked the Sony sensors thus far...

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causey Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arlington, VA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,757	I'd prefer less mp and cleaner pixels.

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RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	How big are those files from D3200? I guess most users will have a kitlens and shoot in jpg. Biggest problem with al those megapixels is that every lovely girl turns into a very hairy bunny again

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eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	I'm guessing from the specs this is a crippled version of the nex 7 sensor with worse processing etc. (it maxes at 6400iso) but it still changes the game for everyone else. Entry level people buy on numbers they don't understand but think are important (this receiver has 100 watts per channel it must be good, wow this camcorder is 1 lux it must be good ) They really have canon in their sites this year

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04-19-2012, 07:51 AM	#12
bwDraco Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New York Photos: Albums Posts: 1,071	I don't see why a user considering a lower entry-level camera would need 24 megapixels. I'd say 16 megapixels is best for the typical user at this level, and there's no way the Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm lens will resolve 24 megapixels of detail. A 24-megapixel sensor is diffraction limited at f/7.4 (see Digital Camera Diffraction – Resolution, Color & Micro-Contrast), so this extra resolution probably isn't useful. Leave these high-resolution sensors to midrange class and semi-professional class cameras; they don't belong in the entry-level class. --DragonLord

04-19-2012, 07:57 AM	#13
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by DragonLord Leave these high-resolution sensors to midrange class and semi-professional class cameras; they don't belong in the entry-level class. --DragonLord Maybe the problem is the image quality from this sensor. You can sell this to a noob, but once in a D400 to use with hi-value lenses the user is much more demanding on performance in a sportsarena shooting at iso3200.

04-19-2012, 09:21 AM	#14
einstrigger Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 728	I bet Nikon will sell a boat load of these, since you're more than likely to see them at Walmart, Target, Costco, and other big-box stores. The guy manning the electronics counter won't know any better when Joe Schmoe or Soccer Mom walks up to him and asks, "Which camera do you think is better?" I'm sure the response would be something like "Well, this Canon is 18MP and that Nikon is 24MP. I'd probably go with the 24MP..." I've seen a similar situation play out before my eyes at my local Fry's.

04-19-2012, 09:39 AM	#15
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by einstrigger I bet Nikon will sell a boat load of these, since you're more than likely to see them at Walmart, Target, Costco, and other big-box stores. The guy manning the electronics counter won't know any better when Joe Schmoe or Soccer Mom walks up to him and asks, "Which camera do you think is better?" I'm sure the response would be something like "Well, this Canon is 18MP and that Nikon is 24MP. I'd probably go with the 24MP..." I've seen a similar situation play out before my eyes at my local Fry's. this is exactly what will happen, and it's how nikon will steal huge share from canon looking at the russian forum post from ogl i imagine the pentax line looks like 16mp entry (k-o1 w/ ovf) WR KR replacement (hopefully with marginally crippled 24mp sensor to battle Nikon) K5 replacement - 24mp with the bells and whistles sensor fully enabled (no artificial limitation on iso for example) and a FF