Nikon D800...wow!

tuco · 06-12-2013, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by K57XR

Yes, it is a DX lens.

Well, it would be cheaper to have ordered a D7100 or something similar if you are going to put a DX lens (and a kit lens of all things) on a FX D800. The old saying a chain is no stronger than its weakest link certainly holds true in this case. In other words, you are not utilizing the capability of the camera very well and cheaper one would get you the same results ( ie from a photographers view point), IMHO.

But, on the other hand, if there is some attribute about the camera that is needed and is more important than then images it produces, then, maybe, I could see some rational behind the lens decision.

Last edited by tuco; 06-12-2013 at 09:16 PM.

K57XR · 06-12-2013, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by jsherman999

Why would you buy a DX lens for it, though? You get only 16MP in DX mode, or major vignetting if you shoot in FX mode...

Good question! For the record it wasn’t my choosing. I was just told one day the Canon will be upgraded to a Nikon D800 with this lens and those accessories and that an on order has already been placed. I personally do not know the people who recommended the entire setup but they’re apparently a trusted source. I got a “deer in the headlight” reaction when I said “ooohhh D800, that’s Full Frame”.

jogiba · 06-13-2013, 08:02 AM

The Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G ED VR Lens and Nikon AF-S VR Zoom-NIKKOR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G IF-ED full frame lenses cost a bit more than just the 18-300mm APS-C lens but at least it covers the full frame D800 sensor.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G ED VR Lens 2204 B&H Photo
Nikon AF-S VR Zoom-NIKKOR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G IF-ED 2161 B&H

Or for much less get the full frame Tamron 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di VC LD Aspherical IF Macro Autofocus Lens .
Tamron 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di VC LD Aspherical IF AF020NII-700

K57XR · 06-13-2013, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by jogiba

The Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G ED VR Lens and Nikon AF-S VR Zoom-NIKKOR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G IF-ED full frame lenses cost a bit more than just the 18-300mm APS-C lens but at least it covers the full frame D800 sensor.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G ED VR Lens 2204 B&H Photo
Nikon AF-S VR Zoom-NIKKOR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G IF-ED 2161 B&H

Or for much less get the full frame Tamron 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di VC LD Aspherical IF Macro Autofocus Lens .
Tamron 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di VC LD Aspherical IF AF020NII-700

Thanks for the links. From what I gathered the18-300 was chosen for a one lens solution. If I had a say in the matter the Tamron 28-300 you suggested would've been a better option (cheaper, Lighter)..

Tonto · 06-13-2013, 09:13 PM

What photographic supplier in their right mind would supply a D800 with a 18-300???? Its as if they saw the range and thought yup thats the widest we'll grab that. Ridiculous.

kenafein · 06-13-2013, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by K57XR

Thanks for the links. From what I gathered the18-300 was chosen for a one lens solution. If I had a say in the matter the Tamron 28-300 you suggested would've been a better option (cheaper, Lighter)..

Eh, it doesn't matter, the bureaucracy doesn't care. That camera's potential is going to be wasted there, but have some fun with it.

tuco · 06-13-2013, 11:35 PM

Perhaps they want primarily a DX camera with FX option. The extra reach you get out of that zoom is good enough both for surveillance stills and video. And I doubt anyone is pixel peeping those out of camera JPEGs. And when the job calls for detail and resolution, they have the option of a mounting a sharp FX lens. Just a wild guess.

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06-12-2013, 09:09 PM	#16
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,026	Originally posted by K57XR Yes, it is a DX lens. Well, it would be cheaper to have ordered a D7100 or something similar if you are going to put a DX lens (and a kit lens of all things) on a FX D800. The old saying a chain is no stronger than its weakest link certainly holds true in this case. In other words, you are not utilizing the capability of the camera very well and cheaper one would get you the same results ( ie from a photographers view point), IMHO. But, on the other hand, if there is some attribute about the camera that is needed and is more important than then images it produces, then, maybe, I could see some rational behind the lens decision. Last edited by tuco; 06-12-2013 at 09:16 PM.

06-12-2013, 09:14 PM	#17
K57XR Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 830 Original Poster	Originally posted by jsherman999 Why would you buy a DX lens for it, though? You get only 16MP in DX mode, or major vignetting if you shoot in FX mode... Good question! For the record it wasn’t my choosing. I was just told one day the Canon will be upgraded to a Nikon D800 with this lens and those accessories and that an on order has already been placed. I personally do not know the people who recommended the entire setup but they’re apparently a trusted source. I got a “deer in the headlight” reaction when I said “ooohhh D800, that’s Full Frame”.

06-13-2013, 08:02 AM	#18
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	The Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G ED VR Lens and Nikon AF-S VR Zoom-NIKKOR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G IF-ED full frame lenses cost a bit more than just the 18-300mm APS-C lens but at least it covers the full frame D800 sensor. Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G ED VR Lens 2204 B&H Photo Nikon AF-S VR Zoom-NIKKOR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G IF-ED 2161 B&H Or for much less get the full frame Tamron 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di VC LD Aspherical IF Macro Autofocus Lens . Tamron 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di VC LD Aspherical IF AF020NII-700

06-13-2013, 09:00 PM	#19
K57XR Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 830 Original Poster	Originally posted by jogiba The Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G ED VR Lens and Nikon AF-S VR Zoom-NIKKOR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G IF-ED full frame lenses cost a bit more than just the 18-300mm APS-C lens but at least it covers the full frame D800 sensor. Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G ED VR Lens 2204 B&H Photo Nikon AF-S VR Zoom-NIKKOR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G IF-ED 2161 B&H Or for much less get the full frame Tamron 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di VC LD Aspherical IF Macro Autofocus Lens . Tamron 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di VC LD Aspherical IF AF020NII-700 Thanks for the links. From what I gathered the18-300 was chosen for a one lens solution. If I had a say in the matter the Tamron 28-300 you suggested would've been a better option (cheaper, Lighter)..

06-13-2013, 09:13 PM	#20
Tonto Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Wellington Posts: 969	What photographic supplier in their right mind would supply a D800 with a 18-300???? Its as if they saw the range and thought yup thats the widest we'll grab that. Ridiculous.

06-13-2013, 09:26 PM	#21
kenafein Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Southern California Photos: Albums Posts: 4,082	Originally posted by K57XR Thanks for the links. From what I gathered the18-300 was chosen for a one lens solution. If I had a say in the matter the Tamron 28-300 you suggested would've been a better option (cheaper, Lighter).. Eh, it doesn't matter, the bureaucracy doesn't care. That camera's potential is going to be wasted there, but have some fun with it.

06-13-2013, 11:35 PM	#22
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,026	Perhaps they want primarily a DX camera with FX option. The extra reach you get out of that zoom is good enough both for surveillance stills and video. And I doubt anyone is pixel peeping those out of camera JPEGs. And when the job calls for detail and resolution, they have the option of a mounting a sharp FX lens. Just a wild guess.