Sony QX100 - more cumbersome than convenient?

yusuf · 09-04-2013, 04:49 AM

A lots of excitement around this camera, interesting idea but somehow I feel it will be more cumbersome than convenient to handle two devices. Anyone else thinks the same?

iClarified - Apple News - Complete Details on Sony QX100 and QX10 iPhone-Compatible Lens Attachments Leaked [Video]

pinholecam · 09-04-2013, 05:21 AM

Originally posted by yusuf

A lots of excitement around this camera, interesting idea but somehow I feel it will be more cumbersome than convenient to handle two devices. Anyone else thinks the same?

iClarified - Apple News - Complete Details on Sony QX100 and QX10 iPhone-Compatible Lens Attachments Leaked [Video]

Might as well just carry a small pns or Q.

Aegon · 09-04-2013, 10:02 AM

Who is supposed to buy this?

Why would anyone want to use this?

Am I missing something?

**boriscleto** · 09-04-2013, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by Aegon

Who is supposed to buy this?

Why would anyone want to use this?

Am I missing something?

Isn't that kind of like asking who would buy the Theta 360?

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/236096-pentax-ricoh-theta-360-camera.html

JinDesu · 09-04-2013, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

Isn't that kind of like asking who would buy the Theta 360?

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/236096-pentax-ricoh-theta-360-camera.html

Yeah but at least I can use the Theta 360 while talking on my phone

Jasvox · 09-04-2013, 10:46 AM

I think it is simply aimed at people who want to take better quality photos, but not be burdened with something extra on their person as large as a typical P&S camera. Nevermind the lens and sensor are the guts of the RX100ii. Most people already carry a phone, so this is simply an accessory rather than a full on camera body, and the size and weight that goes along with it. The QX10 could be carried in an empty flip-top pack of cigarettes (?)

I think its a cool idea and not only for pairing directly with the phone as an attached EVF/lens/sensor combo, but also for off body shooting and using the phone as the tethered monitor.

Innovation deserves some open minded thought.

Jason

JinDesu · 09-04-2013, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by Jasvox

I think its a cool idea and not only for pairing directly with the phone as an attached EVF/lens/sensor combo, but also for off body shooting and using the phone as the tethered monitor.

Innovation deserves some open minded thought.

Jason

The only issue is that, while width and height is a bit smaller than most compact cams, the depth is definitely not smaller (2.5” x 2.5” x 1.3” vs 3.9" x 2.3" x 1" of the S100). Given that - a compact camera with wifi or some form of communication would do everything that the QX series will do, without draining your phone battery, impede calls and text, etc. Off body shooting and tether monitor can be done with compact cams - that tech is in some Canon and Nikon dslrs now. Shouldn't be too difficult to implement in a compact.

I do like the idea, but I think the size is a bit off-putting. Can't really comment on price though, that seems reasonable for a new product to me. Especially since the RX100II is $800.

cali92rs · 09-04-2013, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by Jasvox

monitor.

Innovation deserves some open minded thought.

Jason

I agree...how often are new concepts perfect in their first iteration? I say that happens once in a generation. Most of the times, products begin like this: not perfect by any means, but also not that bad and offers a good spring board for future optimization.

Jasvox · 09-04-2013, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by cali92rs

I agree...how often are new concepts perfect in their first iteration? I say that happens once in a generation. Most of the times, products begin like this: not perfect by any means, but also not that bad and offers a good spring board for future optimization.

Agreed. My first ever mobile phone was about the size of a small shoe and did only 1 thing, now look at them. New products are exciting and every so often 1 catches your eye as ideal for what you do, or would like to do. Not everyone will want it, but not everyone wants a D3 too.

Jason

**boriscleto** · 09-04-2013, 12:04 PM

First look: Sony's iPhone-compatible QX10 and QX100 Cyber-shot lenses

prime.partisan · 09-04-2013, 04:24 PM

Here's how Sony can win this game: make a 3D phone that can connect to 2 of these lenses

Or a Sony glass, like Google glass but without the creepy camera.

6BQ5 · 09-05-2013, 07:41 AM

It seems a bit cumbersome for what it is shown doing. I wonder when some kids will come along and find a new way to use the GX100! Maybe they'll write some app for the phone to turn it into a robotic eye.

prime.partisan · 09-05-2013, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by Aegon

Who is supposed to buy this?

Why would anyone want to use this?

Am I missing something?

According to Amazon, you're missing a lot.
Amazon Best Sellers: best Digital Cameras

And I can't find any Pentax in that best seller 100 list. Amazon shoppers must be asking themselves, who's buying Pentax?

Aegon · 09-05-2013, 11:22 AM

Seeing as I don't own a Pentax at the moment, I can also ask who's buying Pentax.

I will admit that I'm surprised to see preorders for the Sony unit doing so well.

prime.partisan · 09-05-2013, 02:41 PM

Now I really wish Google would make a camera-less glass that can pair with a QX. Redefine professional photography

09-04-2013, 04:49 AM	#1
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09-04-2013, 05:21 AM	#2
pinholecam Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,706	Originally posted by yusuf A lots of excitement around this camera, interesting idea but somehow I feel it will be more cumbersome than convenient to handle two devices. Anyone else thinks the same? iClarified - Apple News - Complete Details on Sony QX100 and QX10 iPhone-Compatible Lens Attachments Leaked [Video] Might as well just carry a small pns or Q.

09-04-2013, 10:02 AM	#3
Aegon Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,416	Who is supposed to buy this? Why would anyone want to use this? Am I missing something?

09-04-2013, 10:07 AM	#4
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Originally posted by Aegon Who is supposed to buy this? Why would anyone want to use this? Am I missing something? Isn't that kind of like asking who would buy the Theta 360? https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/236096-pentax-ricoh-theta-360-camera.html

09-04-2013, 10:08 AM	#5
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Originally posted by boriscleto Isn't that kind of like asking who would buy the Theta 360? https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/236096-pentax-ricoh-theta-360-camera.html Yeah but at least I can use the Theta 360 while talking on my phone

09-04-2013, 10:46 AM	#6
Jasvox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3,107	I think it is simply aimed at people who want to take better quality photos, but not be burdened with something extra on their person as large as a typical P&S camera. Nevermind the lens and sensor are the guts of the RX100ii. Most people already carry a phone, so this is simply an accessory rather than a full on camera body, and the size and weight that goes along with it. The QX10 could be carried in an empty flip-top pack of cigarettes (?) I think its a cool idea and not only for pairing directly with the phone as an attached EVF/lens/sensor combo, but also for off body shooting and using the phone as the tethered monitor. Innovation deserves some open minded thought. Jason

09-04-2013, 10:57 AM	#7
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Originally posted by Jasvox I think its a cool idea and not only for pairing directly with the phone as an attached EVF/lens/sensor combo, but also for off body shooting and using the phone as the tethered monitor. Innovation deserves some open minded thought. Jason The only issue is that, while width and height is a bit smaller than most compact cams, the depth is definitely not smaller (2.5” x 2.5” x 1.3” vs 3.9" x 2.3" x 1" of the S100). Given that - a compact camera with wifi or some form of communication would do everything that the QX series will do, without draining your phone battery, impede calls and text, etc. Off body shooting and tether monitor can be done with compact cams - that tech is in some Canon and Nikon dslrs now. Shouldn't be too difficult to implement in a compact. I do like the idea, but I think the size is a bit off-putting. Can't really comment on price though, that seems reasonable for a new product to me. Especially since the RX100II is $800.

09-04-2013, 11:02 AM	#8
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	Originally posted by Jasvox monitor. Innovation deserves some open minded thought. Jason I agree...how often are new concepts perfect in their first iteration? I say that happens once in a generation. Most of the times, products begin like this: not perfect by any means, but also not that bad and offers a good spring board for future optimization.

09-04-2013, 11:16 AM	#9
Jasvox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3,107	Originally posted by cali92rs I agree...how often are new concepts perfect in their first iteration? I say that happens once in a generation. Most of the times, products begin like this: not perfect by any means, but also not that bad and offers a good spring board for future optimization. Agreed. My first ever mobile phone was about the size of a small shoe and did only 1 thing, now look at them. New products are exciting and every so often 1 catches your eye as ideal for what you do, or would like to do. Not everyone will want it, but not everyone wants a D3 too. Jason

09-04-2013, 12:04 PM	#10
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	First look: Sony's iPhone-compatible QX10 and QX100 Cyber-shot lenses

09-04-2013, 04:24 PM	#11
prime.partisan Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 198	Here's how Sony can win this game: make a 3D phone that can connect to 2 of these lenses Or a Sony glass, like Google glass but without the creepy camera.

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6BQ5 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Nevada, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,348	It seems a bit cumbersome for what it is shown doing. I wonder when some kids will come along and find a new way to use the GX100! Maybe they'll write some app for the phone to turn it into a robotic eye.

09-05-2013, 10:43 AM	#13
prime.partisan Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 198	Originally posted by Aegon Who is supposed to buy this? Why would anyone want to use this? Am I missing something? According to Amazon, you're missing a lot. Amazon Best Sellers: best Digital Cameras And I can't find any Pentax in that best seller 100 list. Amazon shoppers must be asking themselves, who's buying Pentax?

09-05-2013, 11:22 AM	#14
Aegon Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,416	Seeing as I don't own a Pentax at the moment, I can also ask who's buying Pentax. I will admit that I'm surprised to see preorders for the Sony unit doing so well.

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prime.partisan Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 198	Now I really wish Google would make a camera-less glass that can pair with a QX. Redefine professional photography