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LFLee · 11-19-2014, 10:01 PM - **1 Like**

the 5 axis stabilizing thing is real.

wonder if one can do tilt-shift photo with any lens?

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**luftfluss** · 11-19-2014, 10:13 PM

Nice!

Winder · 11-19-2014, 10:40 PM

I think my next camera will be a Sony.......
Does it have the A6000 AF?

Adam · 11-19-2014, 11:34 PM - **2 Likes**

That's awesome! I guess Sony beat Pentax to it, but the good news is that this proves that FF SR is possible in a compact package!

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Sorver · 11-19-2014, 11:58 PM

Must say it looks cool but hope it's nothing like their phones. Mine had a habit of draining the battery and getting really hot. Probably not great if the camera does that unless in snow season 😜

infoomatic · 11-20-2014, 01:51 AM

yeah, thats great! This was the only thing I was missing in a FF cam compared to the Pentax system. So, my next big $$ will go to Sony, congrats! ;-)

Fogel70 · 11-20-2014, 02:18 AM - **2 Likes**

Looking at this image it seems like Sony has changed type of sensor shift mechanism to the same tech as Pentax use (sensor shifts by magnetic force).
It looks very much like the magnetic coils visible to the right, and below sensor.

If so, it quite different compared to Olympus 5-axis sensor shift, and very much like what Pentax use.

Edit: it seems like Olympus latest sensor shift is also based on magnets/coils, so all major manufacturers of sensor stabilization seems to have converted to similar tech as Pentax.
But Olympus design is not as similar to Pentax like the version Sony use.

Last edited by Fogel70; 11-20-2014 at 09:41 AM.

**Mikesul** · 11-23-2014, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by Adam

That's awesome! I guess Sony beat Pentax to it, but the good news is that this proves that FF SR is possible in a compact package!

Yup! Except that it is e-mount instead of K-mount this is pretty much what I was hoping Pentax would do. Let's hope this doesn't scare Ricoh off. Maybe it will just guarantee a better price for the Pentax FF when it comes.

wed7 · 11-24-2014, 01:11 AM

Time to wake up and speed up Ricoh!

- Now we know that it is possible to use SR at larger than aps-c sensors, good job Sony

Fogel70 · 11-24-2014, 01:53 AM

Originally posted by wed7

Time to wake up and speed up Ricoh!

- Now we know that it is possible to use SR at larger than aps-c sensors, good job Sony

That has been known for 6 years by now. Ever since Sony released their first FF (A900).

Mistral75 · 11-24-2014, 05:19 AM

Originally posted by Fogel70

That has been known for 6 years by now. Ever since Sony released their first FF (A900).

Indeed, Sony Alpha 900, Alpha 850 and Alpha 99 are 24x36 cameras with IBIS/SR. This has to be written time and again on this forum.

tuco · 11-24-2014, 05:47 AM

The second video shows it handling yaw, pitch and roll about the X, Y and Z axis. That is three axis. Where are the other two?

Mistral75 · 11-24-2014, 07:29 AM

Originally posted by tuco

The second video shows it handling yaw, pitch and roll about the X, Y and Z axis. That is three axis. Where are the other two?

In a three-dimensional space a solid has 6 degrees of liberty:

- 3 in translation: up and down, left and right, back and forth
- 3 in rotation : yaw, pitch and roll.

AF-C takes care of small back-and-forth movements. The SR system has to compensate for the other five degrees of liberty.

**jeffshaddix** · 11-24-2014, 07:38 AM

Pretty awesome, I hope they release an "S" version. C'mon Pentax, stop me please.

tuco · 11-24-2014, 07:59 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

In a three-dimensional space a solid has 6 degrees of liberty:
.

They advertise 5-axis; not degrees of freedom. They must mean the 3-axis of rotation plus X-Y translations to be the "5-axis"

11-24-2014, 07:59 AM	#15
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,032	Originally posted by Mistral75 In a three-dimensional space a solid has 6 degrees of liberty: . They advertise 5-axis; not degrees of freedom. They must mean the 3-axis of rotation plus X-Y translations to be the "5-axis" Last edited by tuco; 11-24-2014 at 08:10 AM.

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luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,628	Nice!

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Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	I think my next camera will be a Sony....... Does it have the A6000 AF?

11-19-2014, 11:34 PM - 2 Likes	#4
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,608	That's awesome! I guess Sony beat Pentax to it, but the good news is that this proves that FF SR is possible in a compact package! Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

11-19-2014, 11:58 PM	#5
Sorver Veteran Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 440	Must say it looks cool but hope it's nothing like their phones. Mine had a habit of draining the battery and getting really hot. Probably not great if the camera does that unless in snow season 😜

11-20-2014, 01:51 AM	#6
infoomatic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Austria Photos: Gallery Posts: 255	yeah, thats great! This was the only thing I was missing in a FF cam compared to the Pentax system. So, my next big $$ will go to Sony, congrats! ;-)

11-20-2014, 02:18 AM - 2 Likes	#7
Fogel70 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Photos: Albums Posts: 3,062	Looking at this image it seems like Sony has changed type of sensor shift mechanism to the same tech as Pentax use (sensor shifts by magnetic force). It looks very much like the magnetic coils visible to the right, and below sensor. If so, it quite different compared to Olympus 5-axis sensor shift, and very much like what Pentax use. Edit: it seems like Olympus latest sensor shift is also based on magnets/coils, so all major manufacturers of sensor stabilization seems to have converted to similar tech as Pentax. But Olympus design is not as similar to Pentax like the version Sony use. Last edited by Fogel70; 11-20-2014 at 09:41 AM.

11-23-2014, 01:03 PM	#8
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	Originally posted by Adam That's awesome! I guess Sony beat Pentax to it, but the good news is that this proves that FF SR is possible in a compact package! Yup! Except that it is e-mount instead of K-mount this is pretty much what I was hoping Pentax would do. Let's hope this doesn't scare Ricoh off. Maybe it will just guarantee a better price for the Pentax FF when it comes.

11-24-2014, 01:11 AM	#9
wed7 Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 1,421	Time to wake up and speed up Ricoh! - Now we know that it is possible to use SR at larger than aps-c sensors, good job Sony

11-24-2014, 01:53 AM	#10
Fogel70 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Photos: Albums Posts: 3,062	Originally posted by wed7 Time to wake up and speed up Ricoh! - Now we know that it is possible to use SR at larger than aps-c sensors, good job Sony That has been known for 6 years by now. Ever since Sony released their first FF (A900).

11-24-2014, 05:19 AM	#11
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Fogel70 That has been known for 6 years by now. Ever since Sony released their first FF (A900). Indeed, Sony Alpha 900, Alpha 850 and Alpha 99 are 24x36 cameras with IBIS/SR. This has to be written time and again on this forum.

11-24-2014, 05:47 AM	#12
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,032	The second video shows it handling yaw, pitch and roll about the X, Y and Z axis. That is three axis. Where are the other two?

11-24-2014, 07:29 AM	#13
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by tuco The second video shows it handling yaw, pitch and roll about the X, Y and Z axis. That is three axis. Where are the other two? In a three-dimensional space a solid has 6 degrees of liberty: - 3 in translation: up and down, left and right, back and forth - 3 in rotation : yaw, pitch and roll. AF-C takes care of small back-and-forth movements. The SR system has to compensate for the other five degrees of liberty.

11-24-2014, 07:38 AM	#14
jeffshaddix Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,473	Pretty awesome, I hope they release an "S" version. C'mon Pentax, stop me please.

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