the NX1 get its turn

rawr · 07-08-2015, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by kadajawi

Having to buy new lenses (not so valid of video because of the you're going to shoot MF anyway thing), even if they are available, is quite a problem.

Of course, if you are happy with manual focus for video, and already have some Pentax glass, Samsung do offer a NX to K-mount adapter. I've seen the genuine one on eBay for about $50, others for $10. ...

cfraz · 07-08-2015, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by kadajawi

Thankfully I have a K-5, so I am mostly happy

So, who are you and what have you done with the real kadajawi?

kadajawi · 07-09-2015, 02:19 AM

Originally posted by cfraz

So, who are you and what have you done with the real kadajawi?

Why? I love my K-5. Better AF is the only thing I could (reasonably) ask for. I'll take it for video over any Pentax released since, and over many of it's peers. For me, only the NX1, some OM-D, and perhaps the A7s come above the K-5 for video. Being able to record without compression artifacts is nice. Being very well stabilized is even nicer. And it gets a rather pleasant look.

I would love for Pentax to take a long, hard look at the K-5 and do right what that camera did right, then expand on it. To me with the K-3 for example they did a step or two back in terms of video, and that's what I complain about.

Thing is, I also shoot stills, and then I would like to have AF. That means spending more...

cfraz · 07-09-2015, 07:01 AM

Originally posted by kadajawi

Why?

Just surprised you used the adjective happy based on your posting content. I would have guessed your response a poll question of "How satisfied are you with your Pentax camera, on a scale of 0 - 10 (10 being very satisfied, 0 being extremely dissatisfied)," your response would be a large negative number.

But I'm glad you like your Pentax.

kadajawi · 07-09-2015, 07:44 AM

Ah, no. I am happy with mine, more so than I'd probably be with any other Pentax. It is the Pentax that has the best combination of everything to me. Newer ones are better in some areas, but worse in others, to a degree that they are not for me. So those would indeed get a negative rating. My constant complaining is because I feel Pentax is heading into the wrong direction (for me), and unnecessarily so. They made steps backwards without the need to. What I want wouldn't make it a lesser camera for others.

osv · 07-09-2015, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by kadajawi

Depends. For video work... MF is quite common anyway, so that's not such a big drawback. For stills, totally. You'd want to have AF on this thing.

you'd want af if it was an ovf camera, which it isn't, this is an evf camera.

manual focus on evf cameras is a dream.

you have a k5, so of course you wouldn't understand.

neostyles · 07-09-2015, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by kadajawi

As I said before, there are hardly any professional mirrorless cameras on the market (apart from Leica, which I suspect are being used by some pros), and those that are have only appeared within the last year or so, with very limited lens line-ups. So it is hardly surprising that pros that have invested in the whole system for many years haven't made the switch. Even if they would rather have a mirrorless camera. On the video side that is more common since people use manual focus anyway, and the mirrorless cameras let them adapt any of their lenses.

You havent watched jason laniers videos have you? He does incredible things with the a6000. Sony has 16 e mount lenses i believe and there is the metabones smart adapter which lets you use any lens with af. I think the lens selection is actually one of the best parts about mirrorless.

kadajawi · 07-09-2015, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by osv

you'd want af if it was an ovf camera, which it isn't, this is an evf camera.

manual focus on evf cameras is a dream.

you have a k5, so of course you wouldn't understand.

AF is still going to be faster, isn't it? How do you know what I take photos of? There are situations where I want fast AF, and MF, no matter how good, will be a disadvantage.

Oh and yes, the Sony system is better built out, but I'm more interested in the Samsung NX1.

osv · 07-09-2015, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by kadajawi

AF is still going to be faster, isn't it? How do you know what I take photos of? There are situations where I want fast AF, and MF, no matter how good, will be a disadvantage.

have you had the opportunity to use mf with a good evf camera? shooting stills?

mf has advantages over af, including better accuracy in zone focusing situations and when shooting landscapes... nobody in their right mind uses af for macro.

if you must have af, the nx1 has a touchscreen lcd? some people really like that; sony doesn't have it, pentax doesn't either?

Originally posted by kadajawi

Oh and yes, the Sony system is better built out, but I'm more interested in the Samsung NX1.

4k on the nx1 is a huge draw for this camera, i certainly agree with everything that you've said about that

kadajawi · 07-09-2015, 01:49 PM

I don't care much about landscapes, I'm really bad at them anyway. I do like to take portraits etc., preferably without the subject noticing, to get a more natural face. Lift camera to eye, focus very quickly, and photo.

I did use the a57 as well as several Fujis, including the X-Pro1. I still want good AF. Good MF is nice too, but it won't replace it.

rawr · 07-09-2015, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by osv

4k on the nx1 is a huge draw for this camera,

An even bigger draw for the NX-500

, especially at less than 1/2 the price of a NX-1.

neostyles · 11-05-2015, 12:08 PM

The power on the nx1 is pretty insane. Ive been taking with some people who have connections at Samsung and they apparently got 240 fps at 6k to work for short bursts. With that kind of power you could hit over 1000 fps in 1080

11-05-2015, 12:08 PM	#87
neostyles Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 445	The power on the nx1 is pretty insane. Ive been taking with some people who have connections at Samsung and they apparently got 240 fps at 6k to work for short bursts. With that kind of power you could hit over 1000 fps in 1080 Last edited by neostyles; 11-05-2015 at 06:08 PM.

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07-08-2015, 07:24 PM	#76
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by kadajawi Having to buy new lenses (not so valid of video because of the you're going to shoot MF anyway thing), even if they are available, is quite a problem. Of course, if you are happy with manual focus for video, and already have some Pentax glass, Samsung do offer a NX to K-mount adapter. I've seen the genuine one on eBay for about $50, others for $10. ...

07-08-2015, 10:19 PM	#77
cfraz Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 521	Originally posted by kadajawi Thankfully I have a K-5, so I am mostly happy So, who are you and what have you done with the real kadajawi?

07-09-2015, 02:19 AM	#78
kadajawi Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,799	Originally posted by cfraz So, who are you and what have you done with the real kadajawi? Why? I love my K-5. Better AF is the only thing I could (reasonably) ask for. I'll take it for video over any Pentax released since, and over many of it's peers. For me, only the NX1, some OM-D, and perhaps the A7s come above the K-5 for video. Being able to record without compression artifacts is nice. Being very well stabilized is even nicer. And it gets a rather pleasant look. I would love for Pentax to take a long, hard look at the K-5 and do right what that camera did right, then expand on it. To me with the K-3 for example they did a step or two back in terms of video, and that's what I complain about. Thing is, I also shoot stills, and then I would like to have AF. That means spending more...

07-09-2015, 07:01 AM	#79
cfraz Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 521	Originally posted by kadajawi Why? Just surprised you used the adjective happy based on your posting content. I would have guessed your response a poll question of "How satisfied are you with your Pentax camera, on a scale of 0 - 10 (10 being very satisfied, 0 being extremely dissatisfied)," your response would be a large negative number. But I'm glad you like your Pentax.

07-09-2015, 07:44 AM	#80
kadajawi Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,799	Ah, no. I am happy with mine, more so than I'd probably be with any other Pentax. It is the Pentax that has the best combination of everything to me. Newer ones are better in some areas, but worse in others, to a degree that they are not for me. So those would indeed get a negative rating. My constant complaining is because I feel Pentax is heading into the wrong direction (for me), and unnecessarily so. They made steps backwards without the need to. What I want wouldn't make it a lesser camera for others.

07-09-2015, 09:10 AM	#81
osv Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: So Cal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,080	Originally posted by kadajawi Depends. For video work... MF is quite common anyway, so that's not such a big drawback. For stills, totally. You'd want to have AF on this thing. you'd want af if it was an ovf camera, which it isn't, this is an evf camera. manual focus on evf cameras is a dream. you have a k5, so of course you wouldn't understand.

07-09-2015, 11:12 AM	#82
neostyles Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 445	Originally posted by kadajawi As I said before, there are hardly any professional mirrorless cameras on the market (apart from Leica, which I suspect are being used by some pros), and those that are have only appeared within the last year or so, with very limited lens line-ups. So it is hardly surprising that pros that have invested in the whole system for many years haven't made the switch. Even if they would rather have a mirrorless camera. On the video side that is more common since people use manual focus anyway, and the mirrorless cameras let them adapt any of their lenses. You havent watched jason laniers videos have you? He does incredible things with the a6000. Sony has 16 e mount lenses i believe and there is the metabones smart adapter which lets you use any lens with af. I think the lens selection is actually one of the best parts about mirrorless.

07-09-2015, 12:39 PM	#83
kadajawi Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,799	Originally posted by osv you'd want af if it was an ovf camera, which it isn't, this is an evf camera. manual focus on evf cameras is a dream. you have a k5, so of course you wouldn't understand. AF is still going to be faster, isn't it? How do you know what I take photos of? There are situations where I want fast AF, and MF, no matter how good, will be a disadvantage. Oh and yes, the Sony system is better built out, but I'm more interested in the Samsung NX1.

07-09-2015, 01:15 PM	#84
osv Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: So Cal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,080	Originally posted by kadajawi AF is still going to be faster, isn't it? How do you know what I take photos of? There are situations where I want fast AF, and MF, no matter how good, will be a disadvantage. have you had the opportunity to use mf with a good evf camera? shooting stills? mf has advantages over af, including better accuracy in zone focusing situations and when shooting landscapes... nobody in their right mind uses af for macro. if you must have af, the nx1 has a touchscreen lcd? some people really like that; sony doesn't have it, pentax doesn't either? Originally posted by kadajawi Oh and yes, the Sony system is better built out, but I'm more interested in the Samsung NX1. 4k on the nx1 is a huge draw for this camera, i certainly agree with everything that you've said about that

07-09-2015, 01:49 PM	#85
kadajawi Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,799	I don't care much about landscapes, I'm really bad at them anyway. I do like to take portraits etc., preferably without the subject noticing, to get a more natural face. Lift camera to eye, focus very quickly, and photo. I did use the a57 as well as several Fujis, including the X-Pro1. I still want good AF. Good MF is nice too, but it won't replace it.

07-09-2015, 09:44 PM	#86
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by osv 4k on the nx1 is a huge draw for this camera, An even bigger draw for the NX-500 , especially at less than 1/2 the price of a NX-1.