Originally posted by GlennG Not exactly at the moment, but I have a suspicion that I might want to be. The timing of your post is very interesting indeed, as it has just been within the past week that I've cruised over the internet looking for Leica cameras and lenses, rangefinders, and the like. I think the thing that brought me to this is a curiosity about rangefinders. I have to admit that there seems to be an entire photographic universe that I'm unfamiliar with and I'm not sure how to "get in". In fact, I'm pretty sure I don't even know what I want and why exactly I'm looking at Leica stuff, except that the intrigue has set in, in a substantial way. I need a Leica primer and a rangefinder primer.
First time I used a Leica Rangefinder...about 35 years ago... was my old Leica 11f....I marveled at how easy it was to nail the focus. Hard to explain...except you use the focus 'lever' on my Leitz Elmar lens, till the subject in the rangefinder is clear. The image is unclear till you move the lens focusing ring (via lever) and then when the lens is focused...two images become one. Bingo !
I don't want to dampen your enthusiasm about things Leica, but the stuff is extremely expensive, not available in many places for you to try and I have to admit a bit of an acquired taste.
I like them, even though if I'm honest with myself, I realize in my heart of heart, the images the Leica produces is not any better than my K-5 and Pentax 40mm Limited lens and of course, the Pentax is a modern DSLR with more high ISO range, more lenses, etc.
But having said that, I know how you feel. There is something about my beat up old Leica llf, that is hard to describe and no other camera has....and whatever that is, I don't know.
I would suggest if you have an opportunity...try a Leica Rangefinder first. See if you can live with it's quirks, it's old fashioned procedures . Becoming a Leica owner is an expensive club to join, albeit an exclusive club.
All I can say is that I do like my 63 year old 11f....Leica screw mount and all.
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Originally posted by TomB_tx Tuco is right, but I think there is a greater choice in 35mm lenses for the M9 than in 28. I don't use a 28 with my M9, as I have 35 and don't find a 28 that much different. (So I jumped to 21mm) However, both the Summicron ASPH and Elmarit ASPH 28s are incredible lenses. You never go wrong with a Summicron, if your budget allows. Zeiss also has a great 28 2.8, and the Voigtlander 28 2.0 is a less expensive option.
For 35 mm I used a 1968 Summicron for decades, but on the M9 it's a bit soft wide open. I have a Zeiss 35 f2.0 that is great, but larger than I like. So now I use a Leica Summarit 35 f2.5, which is at least as good as the Zeiss, and for low light a Voigtlander 35 f1.4, which is better than my old Summicron at 2.8 and wider. That Voigtlander is a nice small lens, solidly built, and inexpensive (as lenses for Leica go), but has some focus shift as stopped down, and isn't as sharp as the Zeiss or Summarit. It is nice to have 1.4 for low light, as the M9 isn't made for high ISO.
Of course, the Leica 35 Summilux ASPH f1.4 is a great all-round lens for the M9, but I couldn't bring myself to spend that much on one lens.
Any of the above could be fine, if you just use and enjoy it and don't read too many internet opinions!
Thanks Tom for your observations. Experience from another is an important factor when it comes to decision making.
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Originally posted by nickthetasmaniac Personally I love 28mm (probably my favourite focal length), but it isn't for everyone. I kind of look at it like this (generalising of course):
- 50mm: telling a story about a subject.
- 35mm: telling a story about a subject in space.
- 28mm: telling a story about interaction between multiple subjects and multiple spaces.
28mm is tricky because if you aren't paying attention you will often end up with a lot of dead space in the frame and a flat looking image - it forces you to think about more elements. Likewise, due to perspective distortion it's easy to end up with some strange effects in your shots ('stretched' heads and falling buildings for instance), although keep in mind that these effects can be used artistically. A common mistake is using 28mm to 'fit it all in'.
But, when you nail it, its awesome
VM 28mm f2 Ultron on an M2 with 400TX
In terms of good 28mm options. I have the Voigtlander and it's great for the money. The Zeiss 28/f2.8 Biogon is also fantastic and a decent price.
The Leica 28/f2 Summicron is a legend, but it will block a decent chunk of your viewfinder. From all reports the 28/f2.8 Elmarit is as good or better at all shared apertures, as well as considerably cheaper and
tiny. That would be my pick if I had the funds.
Some good points Nick. You're right a wide angle...ie; 28mm can be a bit too wide. A 35 might be the great compromise and a good one, for a general all purpose lens.
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Tuco, thanks for the commentary and the pix. Also made me think about Zeiss . I've always been impressed with this glass. Have it on my ancient lineage, Zeiss Super Ikonta B, rangefinder folder.