[D1N0]

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D810's dropping in price and a higher MP more modern D850 would mean more competition for the K-1. May cause Ricoh to drop it's price.

[edin_togger]

Any new Nikon D850 is likely to be closer in price to the similar Sony A7rii which it will likely share a sensor with.

I don't see how it would impact the price of the K1 as the Pentax is likely to be over £1000 cheaper at Day 1.

[D1N0]

I don't see how it would impact the price of the K1 as the Pentax is likely to be over £1000 cheaper at Day 1

Because of the reasons I already mentioned. Technological superiority (D5 AF Sony 42mp sensor done the Nikon way) and lower priced D810's and used market being flooded with D800 and D810's.

[rawr]

Interesting, if only because where Nikon goes, Pentax may follow.

42MP K-1 II soon?

[ffking]

Interesting, if only because where Nikon goes, Pentax may follow.

42MP K-1 II soon?

that was always the likely next step, wasn't it? I happen to think that 36Mp is a bit of a (FF) sweet spot in terms of the balance between detail and noise and frames rate etc etc,, but who knows what technological advances there might be to get over the drawbacks of higher pixel densities - don't much fancy a 42Mp pixel-shifted image on my current laptop,though ;D

[Winder]

2017 is Nikon's 100th anniversary. Nikon?100th Anniversary Site I expect to see a lot of new products and anniversary edition gear.

[mee]

Because of the reasons I already mentioned. Technological superiority (D5 AF Sony 42mp sensor done the Nikon way) and lower priced D810's and used market being flooded with D800 and D810's.

I think this is great for the consumer. Those 610/750/810 Nikon bodies still seem rather capable and, on the used market, rather attractive. It will only get better once their successors are released.

FF digital is becoming more and more accessible financially now. Used Sony a7 bodies go for sub 800 dollars today. Used Nikon D750 bodies go for around 1000 dollars today. Those numbers will only push lower the more updates occur.

Which brings me to a thought -- Is the used market a concern for eating new camera sales (across the board) or is it a boost to lens and accessory sales (from those who wouldn't otherwise buy a 'big' camera)?


I'm seriously eyeballing both the 750 and the 810 in the next 6 months depending on what Ricoh show for a K-3 II replacement and where used K-1 prices sit.

It seems used Canikony are a better value as the 'newer' lens selection is both abundant and cheap.

One can buy a refurb D750 and a refurb 24-120 f/4g for the same price of a new K-1 body.

Yes, the K-1 has a superior sensor and some fancy bells and whistles (astrotracer, pixel shift, the extra dial).

But, as someone who just wants a decent FF experience, which one do you think they'll buy? I think they'll more buy the used Canikony if they know it is an option.

This brings me to my next thought -- Will there be an influx of used crop bodies in the near future? If someone can buy a FF body and a couple lenses for under 2 grand, will this be enticing enough for them to ditch their current crop system?

Which means a little less of an abundance of used FF on the market, but a bit more of an abundance of used crop out there.


I think this is only an issue because it seems the camera world is slowing on technological advances.. so what is considered 'acceptable' performance is wide right now. And cameras have become 'good enough' for many people...

[surfar]

d Sony a7 bodies go for sub 800 dollars today.

Yes and New for around U$900...A7ii U$1250....the KP is in between these prices.

[mee]

Yes and New for around U$900...A7ii U$1250....the KP is in between these prices.

not in the US.. the A7 is 1000 USD. And KP as interesting as it is isn't FF so it is entirely irrelevant to this discussion.

[Ian Stuart Forsyth]

One can buy a refurb D750 and a refurb 24-120 f/4g for the same price of a new K-1 body.

You don't even have to go with refurb. to get some great deals out there. If and when the D820 is released you will more than likely see the D810 discounted, over the winter you could have picked up a D810 along with the older 24-70 F/2.8 G and the tamron 15-30 F/2.8 for only $500 more over the K1 15-30 and 24-70 here in Canada. When the D820 is released Nikon will bundle the D810 in a package at attractive prices. When the D810 was released I picked up a D800 for around the price of the K1 and that was when the D810 was a more expensive body to the older D800.

[D1N0]

The biggest drawback of Nikon is I have 1 Nikon lens from my old F801, A 35-70 which is hardly anything special, but over 40 PK and m42 lenses that will do great on the K-1. Nikon is not an option. The A7 is too limited. A7 II might be an option but not enough price difference with the K-1 plus I don't like Sony as a photography company. So The K-1 remains my prime candidate. I hope it will drop a bit in price over the next few months because I feel trigger happy . Full frame mirrorless really needs more players than just Sony and Leica.

[Rondec]

The biggest reason to go with the 42 megapixel sensor from Sony is the better video performance. It isn't quite as good from a low iso standpoint, but a little better from a high iso standpoint.

I don't know that Pentax will be releasing a new full frame camera any time soon regardless of what Nikon does.

[D1N0]

The biggest reason to go with the 42 megapixel sensor from Sony is the better video performance.

It could also give the D820/850 12fps. It would become a real alternative to the D5 if Nikon would also implement the same AF system.

[Rondec]

It could also give the D820/850 12fps. It would become a real alternative to the D5 if Nikon would also implement the same AF system.

Maybe. Using a 42 megapixel sensor in a sports camera seems brutal from a number of standpoints. There is a reason why most of those cameras run around 20 megapixels and it isn't because they have better high iso performance. It is because sports shooters don't need the extra resolution and don't want to wade through 12 frames per second of 40 megapixel images. Limiting it to seven or eight frames per second probably would be adequate for most folks shooting this style of camera and would make the buffer size a little more reasonable too.

[Winder]

There is no reason Sony can't make a 36MP BSI sensor. 36MP seems to be a very good resolution for a FF sensor. The advantages of the larger 42MP and Canons 50MP sensor just aren't very compelling for most photographers. Even 36MP is a lot for shooting wedding and portraits. Maybe we will see an 96MP with enough processing power to perform automatic pixel binning and produce 24MP RAW files at 5fps. All the advantages of pixel shift but with a single exposure, so none of the problems with movement and flash.