1 inch sensor club

pimpim · 10-10-2022, 01:05 PM

Curious! The line seems to be making sharp edges, seems to be at the pixel level. Maybe a computational artifact? A quick google search didn't find anything for this happening very often.

It's a lot of grain for the not very high iso. Probably due to the choice for a stacked sensor, tradeoff between readout speeds and sensitivity.
How is the electronic shutter?

Looking for the sensor artifact I did find a recent rumor there could be an RX10 V coming soon...

**WPRESTO** · 10-11-2022, 03:07 AM

Originally posted by pimpim

Curious! The line seems to be making sharp edges, seems to be at the pixel level. Maybe a computational artifact? A quick google search didn't find anything for this happening very often.

It's a lot of grain for the not very high iso. Probably due to the choice for a stacked sensor, tradeoff between readout speeds and sensitivity.
How is the electronic shutter?

Looking for the sensor artifact I did find a recent rumor there could be an RX10 V coming soon...

LIGHT BULB IN MY HEAD! I was experimenting with the possibilities of a new, free-download image processing program ("paint"). It had a linear drawing tool that I was testing to see what it would/could do, which was nothing useful for me. I undid the experiments, except - light bulb goes on - the very first marks I made with that tool because they were so small I didn't realize they were still there. THAT is what caused the hair-like mark in that image

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**WPRESTO** · 10-11-2022, 03:11 AM - **1 Like**

Some local trees have reached full autumnal color, others have not put their chlorophyll into the cellar. Sony RX10mIV

pimpim · 10-12-2022, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by WPRESTO

LIGHT BULB IN MY HEAD! I was experimenting with the possibilities of a new, free-download image processing program ("paint")..

Haah that explains! Happened a lot to me as well ... opening a picture and accidentally using Paint, or worse, Paint 3D and wait 5 minutes for it to load ...

**Clarkey** · 10-16-2022, 06:34 AM - **3 Likes**

Travels. SOOC, crop/resize only. Panasonic ZS200

Pierside stroll by Aaron, on Flickr

pimpim · 10-17-2022, 08:58 AM

Originally posted by Clarkey

Travels. SOOC, crop/resize only. Panasonic ZS200

Pierside stroll[/url] by Aaron, on Flickr

Oh wow, classic tele framing, what 1 inch does well! Love what Panasonic does with the colors.

**Clarkey** · 10-18-2022, 04:27 AM

Originally posted by pimpim

Oh wow, classic tele framing, what 1 inch does well! Love what Panasonic does with the colors.

Thank you! Likewise, I really like the modern Panasonic colours.

normhead · 10-18-2022, 05:15 AM - **5 Likes**

A few from the last while

normhead · 10-18-2022, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by Clarkey

Thank you! Likewise, I really like the modern Panasonic colours.

The colours I don't have a preference for, but the keeper rate is far below what I was hoping for. I was hoping for hand held on the Lumix to be close to my K-1 and K-3 on tripods. There is no savings there. And so far, nothing I've discovered is up to Live View and focus assist on my Pentaxes, when I decide to go mirrorless on the Pentax. Maybe you guys have a tip?

For the average shot, everything's fine on both systems. Doing macro, there would seem to be more tools on the Pentax.

**WPRESTO** · 10-19-2022, 04:18 AM - **2 Likes**

A little red and green before Xmas

**zippythezip** · 10-19-2022, 06:30 AM - **1 Like**

A few examples from my Canon G5XM2 over the last few days.

I bought a Sony RX10M4 to replace this G5XM2 but it never worked out and I just prefer the size of the Canon, now to sell my Sony =)

**Clarkey** · 10-19-2022, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by normhead

The colours I don't have a preference for, but the keeper rate is far below what I was hoping for. I was hoping for hand held on the Lumix to be close to my K-1 and K-3 on tripods. There is no savings there. And so far, nothing I've discovered is up to Live View and focus assist on my Pentaxes, when I decide to go mirrorless on the Pentax. Maybe you guys have a tip?

For the average shot, everything's fine on both systems. Doing macro, there would seem to be more tools on the Pentax.

Fair enough. Curious, keeper rate low from metering, stabilization or too slow lens? You know you can put these things on a tripod as well? It just seems apples to apples to compare handheld, no?

normhead · 10-19-2022, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by Clarkey

Fair enough. Curious, keeper rate low from metering, stabilization or too slow lens? You know you can put these things on a tripod as well? It just seems apples to apples to compare handheld, no?

The one inch sensor is never too slow, because it has such wide DoF at 2.8. My issue is with missed focus. Hand held they both suck. I really didn't expect my Panasonic to do better, but it was worth a shot. Apparently some more advanced cameras of similar nature allow you to select your focus point on the back screen, which would be very handy. But mine doesn't have that feature.

**Clarkey** · 10-19-2022, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by normhead

The one inch sensor is never too slow, because it has such wide DoF at 2.8. My issue is with missed focus. Hand held they both suck. I really didn't expect my Panasonic to do better, but it was worth a shot. Apparently some more advanced cameras of similar nature allow you to select your focus point on the back screen, which would be very handy. But mine doesn't have that feature.

Oh, I see. If you have the TZ100, do you use the pinpoint af focus area and the touch screen to move it? I seem to have pretty good success with that.

normhead · 10-20-2022, 05:07 AM

Originally posted by Clarkey

Oh, I see. If you have the TZ100, do you use the pinpoint af focus area and the touch screen to move it? I seem to have pretty good success with that.

I'll have to check that out.

10-11-2022, 03:07 AM	#332
WPRESTO Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Massachusetts Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 59,107	Originally posted by pimpim Curious! The line seems to be making sharp edges, seems to be at the pixel level. Maybe a computational artifact? A quick google search didn't find anything for this happening very often. It's a lot of grain for the not very high iso. Probably due to the choice for a stacked sensor, tradeoff between readout speeds and sensitivity. How is the electronic shutter? Looking for the sensor artifact I did find a recent rumor there could be an RX10 V coming soon... LIGHT BULB IN MY HEAD! I was experimenting with the possibilities of a new, free-download image processing program ("paint"). It had a linear drawing tool that I was testing to see what it would/could do, which was nothing useful for me. I undid the experiments, except - light bulb goes on - the very first marks I made with that tool because they were so small I didn't realize they were still there. THAT is what caused the hair-like mark in that image.

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10-10-2022, 01:05 PM	#331
pimpim Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mainz Photos: Albums Posts: 253	Curious! The line seems to be making sharp edges, seems to be at the pixel level. Maybe a computational artifact? A quick google search didn't find anything for this happening very often. It's a lot of grain for the not very high iso. Probably due to the choice for a stacked sensor, tradeoff between readout speeds and sensitivity. How is the electronic shutter? Looking for the sensor artifact I did find a recent rumor there could be an RX10 V coming soon...

10-12-2022, 01:39 AM	#334
pimpim Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mainz Photos: Albums Posts: 253	Originally posted by WPRESTO LIGHT BULB IN MY HEAD! I was experimenting with the possibilities of a new, free-download image processing program ("paint").. Haah that explains! Happened a lot to me as well ... opening a picture and accidentally using Paint, or worse, Paint 3D and wait 5 minutes for it to load ...

10-16-2022, 06:34 AM - 3 Likes	#335
Clarkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,456	Travels. SOOC, crop/resize only. Panasonic ZS200 Pierside stroll by Aaron, on Flickr

10-17-2022, 08:58 AM	#336
pimpim Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mainz Photos: Albums Posts: 253	Originally posted by Clarkey Travels. SOOC, crop/resize only. Panasonic ZS200 Pierside stroll[/url] by Aaron, on Flickr Oh wow, classic tele framing, what 1 inch does well! Love what Panasonic does with the colors.

10-18-2022, 04:27 AM	#337
Clarkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,456	Originally posted by pimpim Oh wow, classic tele framing, what 1 inch does well! Love what Panasonic does with the colors. Thank you! Likewise, I really like the modern Panasonic colours.

10-18-2022, 05:15 AM - 5 Likes	#338
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	A few from the last while

10-18-2022, 08:34 AM	#339
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Clarkey Thank you! Likewise, I really like the modern Panasonic colours. The colours I don't have a preference for, but the keeper rate is far below what I was hoping for. I was hoping for hand held on the Lumix to be close to my K-1 and K-3 on tripods. There is no savings there. And so far, nothing I've discovered is up to Live View and focus assist on my Pentaxes, when I decide to go mirrorless on the Pentax. Maybe you guys have a tip? For the average shot, everything's fine on both systems. Doing macro, there would seem to be more tools on the Pentax.

10-19-2022, 06:30 AM - 1 Like	#341
zippythezip Site Supporter Join Date: May 2014 Location: Springhill Nova Scotia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 397	A few examples from my Canon G5XM2 over the last few days. I bought a Sony RX10M4 to replace this G5XM2 but it never worked out and I just prefer the size of the Canon, now to sell my Sony =)

10-19-2022, 02:29 PM	#342
Clarkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,456	Originally posted by normhead The colours I don't have a preference for, but the keeper rate is far below what I was hoping for. I was hoping for hand held on the Lumix to be close to my K-1 and K-3 on tripods. There is no savings there. And so far, nothing I've discovered is up to Live View and focus assist on my Pentaxes, when I decide to go mirrorless on the Pentax. Maybe you guys have a tip? For the average shot, everything's fine on both systems. Doing macro, there would seem to be more tools on the Pentax. Fair enough. Curious, keeper rate low from metering, stabilization or too slow lens? You know you can put these things on a tripod as well? It just seems apples to apples to compare handheld, no?

10-19-2022, 03:14 PM	#343
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Clarkey Fair enough. Curious, keeper rate low from metering, stabilization or too slow lens? You know you can put these things on a tripod as well? It just seems apples to apples to compare handheld, no? The one inch sensor is never too slow, because it has such wide DoF at 2.8. My issue is with missed focus. Hand held they both suck. I really didn't expect my Panasonic to do better, but it was worth a shot. Apparently some more advanced cameras of similar nature allow you to select your focus point on the back screen, which would be very handy. But mine doesn't have that feature.

10-19-2022, 07:47 PM	#344
Clarkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,456	Originally posted by normhead The one inch sensor is never too slow, because it has such wide DoF at 2.8. My issue is with missed focus. Hand held they both suck. I really didn't expect my Panasonic to do better, but it was worth a shot. Apparently some more advanced cameras of similar nature allow you to select your focus point on the back screen, which would be very handy. But mine doesn't have that feature. Oh, I see. If you have the TZ100, do you use the pinpoint af focus area and the touch screen to move it? I seem to have pretty good success with that.

10-20-2022, 05:07 AM	#345
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Clarkey Oh, I see. If you have the TZ100, do you use the pinpoint af focus area and the touch screen to move it? I seem to have pretty good success with that. I'll have to check that out.