Now model for counterfeiting announced

dsmithhfx · 03-13-2018, 06:59 AM

Leica prototype becomes world?s most expensive camera | News | DW | 10.03.2018

Ontarian50 · 03-13-2018, 07:17 AM

Yeah, but Leica already ripped it off themselves a few years back.

The market's already flooded!

derelict · 03-13-2018, 09:48 AM

Fools and their money....

Ontarian50 · 03-13-2018, 01:12 PM

Well, I have to say I don't mind the high price paid for the authentic null-series Leica.

It's good to see someone, somewhere, has deep pockets and and an appreciation for what is a very important artifact of the 20th century.

Sure, there are collectors out there who will pay millions for a Patek Phillipe wristwatch, mainly because of its artistry, precious metals, and exclusivity. But you can't call a Patek as nearly as historically important as that early Leica.

But, yes, I take the original poster's point, that the high price paid will have someone, somewhere, in some dingy workshop, turning old screw mounts into faux null-series. Of course, the counterfeiter won't be trying to get millions for the fakes. A few thousand bucks will do to sell it to some greedy guy who figures he's going to make a killing ... until the expert points out the truth.

Sad thing is, some genuinely nice old Leicas might get chewed up in the process.

nickthetasmaniac · 03-13-2018, 06:30 PM

Paying oodles of money for a historically significant Leica I understand. Paying oodles of money for a glow in the dark digital leica I do not understand...

Leica reveals matte black M Monochrom 'Stealth Edition' with glow-in-the-dark markings: Digital Photography Review

Originally posted by Ontarian50

But, yes, I take the original poster's point, that the high price paid will have someone, somewhere, in some dingy workshop, turning old screw mounts into faux null-series.

To be fair, counterfeiting early and screw-mount Leica's has been going on for as long as they have existed, and has become something of a historical quirk in it's own right. There are literally whole websites dedicated to the topic. I don't think this sale is going to make any difference.

**ChrisPlatt** · 03-16-2018, 07:00 AM

Some Russian counterfeits are now worth more than Leicas they intend to copy.
I read recently about a Leica that was transformed into a Soviet Fed model (which was itself a Leica copy).

Chris

dsmithhfx · 03-16-2018, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by ChrisPlatt

Some Russian counterfeits are now worth more than Leicas they intend to copy.
I read recently about a Leica that was transformed into a Soviet Fed model (which was itself a Leica copy).

Chris

Counterfeiting Russian stuff seems to be a growth industry...

Counterfeit Russian art throws a shadow over the Ghent museum

03-13-2018, 06:59 AM	#1
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03-13-2018, 07:17 AM	#2
Ontarian50 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 530	Yeah, but Leica already ripped it off themselves a few years back. The market's already flooded!

03-13-2018, 09:48 AM	#3
derelict Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: NoVa Posts: 525	Fools and their money....

03-13-2018, 01:12 PM	#4
Ontarian50 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 530	Well, I have to say I don't mind the high price paid for the authentic null-series Leica. It's good to see someone, somewhere, has deep pockets and and an appreciation for what is a very important artifact of the 20th century. Sure, there are collectors out there who will pay millions for a Patek Phillipe wristwatch, mainly because of its artistry, precious metals, and exclusivity. But you can't call a Patek as nearly as historically important as that early Leica. But, yes, I take the original poster's point, that the high price paid will have someone, somewhere, in some dingy workshop, turning old screw mounts into faux null-series. Of course, the counterfeiter won't be trying to get millions for the fakes. A few thousand bucks will do to sell it to some greedy guy who figures he's going to make a killing ... until the expert points out the truth. Sad thing is, some genuinely nice old Leicas might get chewed up in the process.

03-13-2018, 06:30 PM	#5
nickthetasmaniac Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 2,361	Paying oodles of money for a historically significant Leica I understand. Paying oodles of money for a glow in the dark digital leica I do not understand... Leica reveals matte black M Monochrom 'Stealth Edition' with glow-in-the-dark markings: Digital Photography Review Originally posted by Ontarian50 But, yes, I take the original poster's point, that the high price paid will have someone, somewhere, in some dingy workshop, turning old screw mounts into faux null-series. To be fair, counterfeiting early and screw-mount Leica's has been going on for as long as they have existed, and has become something of a historical quirk in it's own right. There are literally whole websites dedicated to the topic. I don't think this sale is going to make any difference.

03-16-2018, 07:00 AM	#6
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,692	Some Russian counterfeits are now worth more than Leicas they intend to copy. I read recently about a Leica that was transformed into a Soviet Fed model (which was itself a Leica copy). Chris

03-16-2018, 11:52 AM	#7
dsmithhfx Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Toronto Posts: 5,140 Original Poster	Originally posted by ChrisPlatt Some Russian counterfeits are now worth more than Leicas they intend to copy. I read recently about a Leica that was transformed into a Soviet Fed model (which was itself a Leica copy). Chris Counterfeiting Russian stuff seems to be a growth industry... Counterfeit Russian art throws a shadow over the Ghent museum

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