GFX 100mp overview.

surfar · 05-24-2019, 02:01 PM

Theres lots of first looks available since the Tokyo launch on the 23rd.

Here is one thats OK.

Youtu.be

rawr · 05-24-2019, 05:08 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by surfar

Here is one thats OK.

Watching the guy casually waving this $10000 camera about all the time in the video, lens off, leaving the 100MP sensor wide open to crud and dust, made it not so OK to me.

surfar · 05-24-2019, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by rawr

made it not so OK to me

He gets to give it back.

BigMackCam · 05-24-2019, 05:44 PM

I'm looking forward to seeing the benefits of 200MB, 100MP, 16-bit files in the hands of most photographers... I'm sure the camera's amazing, and I'm equally sure that 99% of photographers don't need it and won't benefit from it. Impressive camera, though!

Last edited by BigMackCam; 05-25-2019 at 12:51 AM.

Fcsnt54 · 05-24-2019, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

I'm looking forward to seeing the benefits of 200MB, 100MB, 16-bit files in the hands of most photographers... I'm sure the camera's amazing, and I'm equally sure that 99% of photographers don't need it and won't benefit from it. Impressive camera, though!

Yeah I'm curious on those large files too...

100mb files are nothing, the current 50mp Fuji raw files come to 110mb

biz-engineer · 05-24-2019, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

I'm looking forward to seeing the benefits of 200MB, 100MB, 16-bit files in the hands of most photographers...

You may export the RAW to 16bits TIFF to allow more room for the photo print company to adjust the file for their printer/paper. They say, TIFF is allowed and the maximum size on their service is 1GB per file

---------- Post added 25-05-19 at 07:46 ----------

Originally posted by rawr

Watching the guy casually waving this $10000 camera about all the time in the video, lens off, leaving the 100MP sensor wide open to crud and dust, made it not so OK to me.

Compared to the Phase One models, the GFX100 is an entry level model, a bit like the Canon Kiss is to a Pentax K1.

surfar · 05-25-2019, 12:25 AM

When the pixel shift firmware update comes there will be lots of data to work with.

repaap · 05-25-2019, 01:23 AM

One of biggest things seems to be that IBIS and video, as well as AF, as ofcourse is that big file. Is suppose that casual street shooters/enthusiasts, and what he said about reporters will propably pass on this..

**savoche** · 05-25-2019, 01:41 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by BigMackCam

I'm sure the camera's amazing, and I'm equally sure that 99% of photographers don't need it and won't benefit from it.

Heck, that's my thought on the K-1...

Dartmoor Dave · 05-25-2019, 01:55 AM

Judging by the sample shots available on the interwebs so far, it produces quite a flat colour rendering very different from the usual Fuji style. Presumably it's designed to output neutral looking raw files to give maximum flexibility to professional users, who will of course have highly skilled post production specialists working alongside them.

I think some very rich amateurs will be taking a lot of very bland photos with this camera, as it will expose any lack of talent at both shooting and processing ruthlessly.

repaap · 05-25-2019, 01:59 AM

Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave

Judging by the sample shots available on the interwebs so far, it produces quite a flat colour rendering very different from the usual Fuji style. Presumably it's designed to output neutral looking raw files to give maximum flexibility to professional users, who will of course have highly skilled post production specialists working alongside them.

I think some very rich amateurs will be taking a lot of very bland photos with this camera, as it will expose any lack of talent at both shooting and processing ruthlessly.

when 645 Z did come out, lot of people thought that files look flat, where is that amazing DR. well...

Dartmoor Dave · 05-25-2019, 02:04 AM - **3 Likes**

Just to be clear, I wasn't criticising the camera. Just observing that it will expose any lack of talent in those using it. Same way a 1980s era Porsche 911 will expose any lack of talent in a driver by throwing him off the road backwards.

biz-engineer · 05-25-2019, 05:41 AM

Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave

it produces quite a flat colour rendering very different from the usual Fuji style.

That's also the first thing I noticed when looking at sample photographs.

Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave

Presumably it's designed to output neutral looking raw files to give maximum flexibility to professional users, who will of course have highly skilled post production specialists working alongside them.

Yep, I would also say it's likely not a camera aimed at producing gorgeous OOC Jpegs, especially knowing that the RAW output data is coded over 16bits.

Mistral75 · 05-25-2019, 06:24 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by BigMackCam

I'm looking forward to seeing the benefits of 200MB, 100MP, 16-bit files in the hands of most photographers... I'm sure the camera's amazing, and I'm equally sure that 99% of photographers don't need it and won't benefit from it. Impressive camera, though!

I'm even surer that 99% of photographers won't buy it either. Heck, if the Fujifilm GFX100 managed to grab a 1% share (in units) of the ILC market, that means Fujifilm would sell more than 100,000 units per year, some five to ten times more than the total number of medium format cameras and backs currently sold each year. People at Fujifilm's would dance in the streets until the wee hours of the morning!

Winder · 05-25-2019, 08:38 AM - **1 Like**

Its an interesting camera with some pretty amazing technology. I can see it finding a home with commercial and advertising photographers, and even some fine art/digital art photographers who need really good files for serious manipulation. I would love to play with one for a few weeks, but I just don't have a need for one. The 24MP A9 files are more than enough for what I do and they are much easier on my hard drive. I'm running 8 cores at 4ghz and 32GB of RAM and LR/PS is still not as fast as I want with 24MP files.

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05-24-2019, 05:08 PM - 1 Like	#2
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by surfar Here is one thats OK. Watching the guy casually waving this $10000 camera about all the time in the video, lens off, leaving the 100MP sensor wide open to crud and dust, made it not so OK to me.

05-24-2019, 05:14 PM	#3
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,946 Original Poster	Originally posted by rawr made it not so OK to me He gets to give it back.

05-24-2019, 05:44 PM	#4
BigMackCam - Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 18,745	I'm looking forward to seeing the benefits of 200MB, 100MP, 16-bit files in the hands of most photographers... I'm sure the camera's amazing, and I'm equally sure that 99% of photographers don't need it and won't benefit from it. Impressive camera, though! Last edited by BigMackCam; 05-25-2019 at 12:51 AM.

05-24-2019, 06:37 PM	#5
Fcsnt54 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: California Posts: 620	Originally posted by BigMackCam I'm looking forward to seeing the benefits of 200MB, 100MB, 16-bit files in the hands of most photographers... I'm sure the camera's amazing, and I'm equally sure that 99% of photographers don't need it and won't benefit from it. Impressive camera, though! Yeah I'm curious on those large files too... 100mb files are nothing, the current 50mp Fuji raw files come to 110mb

05-24-2019, 10:37 PM	#6
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,135	Originally posted by BigMackCam I'm looking forward to seeing the benefits of 200MB, 100MB, 16-bit files in the hands of most photographers... You may export the RAW to 16bits TIFF to allow more room for the photo print company to adjust the file for their printer/paper. They say, TIFF is allowed and the maximum size on their service is 1GB per file ---------- Post added 25-05-19 at 07:46 ---------- Originally posted by rawr Watching the guy casually waving this $10000 camera about all the time in the video, lens off, leaving the 100MP sensor wide open to crud and dust, made it not so OK to me. Compared to the Phase One models, the GFX100 is an entry level model, a bit like the Canon Kiss is to a Pentax K1.

05-25-2019, 12:25 AM	#7
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,946 Original Poster	When the pixel shift firmware update comes there will be lots of data to work with.

05-25-2019, 01:23 AM	#8
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,173	One of biggest things seems to be that IBIS and video, as well as AF, as ofcourse is that big file. Is suppose that casual street shooters/enthusiasts, and what he said about reporters will propably pass on this..

05-25-2019, 01:41 AM - 1 Like	#9
savoche Insanely humble Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 17,931	Originally posted by BigMackCam I'm sure the camera's amazing, and I'm equally sure that 99% of photographers don't need it and won't benefit from it. Heck, that's my thought on the K-1...

05-25-2019, 01:55 AM	#10
Dartmoor Dave Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Dartmoor, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,248	Judging by the sample shots available on the interwebs so far, it produces quite a flat colour rendering very different from the usual Fuji style. Presumably it's designed to output neutral looking raw files to give maximum flexibility to professional users, who will of course have highly skilled post production specialists working alongside them. I think some very rich amateurs will be taking a lot of very bland photos with this camera, as it will expose any lack of talent at both shooting and processing ruthlessly.

05-25-2019, 01:59 AM	#11
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,173	Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave Judging by the sample shots available on the interwebs so far, it produces quite a flat colour rendering very different from the usual Fuji style. Presumably it's designed to output neutral looking raw files to give maximum flexibility to professional users, who will of course have highly skilled post production specialists working alongside them. I think some very rich amateurs will be taking a lot of very bland photos with this camera, as it will expose any lack of talent at both shooting and processing ruthlessly. when 645 Z did come out, lot of people thought that files look flat, where is that amazing DR. well...

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05-25-2019, 02:04 AM - 3 Likes	#12
Dartmoor Dave Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Dartmoor, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,248	Just to be clear, I wasn't criticising the camera. Just observing that it will expose any lack of talent in those using it. Same way a 1980s era Porsche 911 will expose any lack of talent in a driver by throwing him off the road backwards.

05-25-2019, 05:41 AM	#13
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,135	Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave it produces quite a flat colour rendering very different from the usual Fuji style. That's also the first thing I noticed when looking at sample photographs. Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave Presumably it's designed to output neutral looking raw files to give maximum flexibility to professional users, who will of course have highly skilled post production specialists working alongside them. Yep, I would also say it's likely not a camera aimed at producing gorgeous OOC Jpegs, especially knowing that the RAW output data is coded over 16bits.

05-25-2019, 06:24 AM - 1 Like	#14
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 6,957	Originally posted by BigMackCam I'm looking forward to seeing the benefits of 200MB, 100MP, 16-bit files in the hands of most photographers... I'm sure the camera's amazing, and I'm equally sure that 99% of photographers don't need it and won't benefit from it. Impressive camera, though! I'm even surer that 99% of photographers won't buy it either. Heck, if the Fujifilm GFX100 managed to grab a 1% share (in units) of the ILC market, that means Fujifilm would sell more than 100,000 units per year, some five to ten times more than the total number of medium format cameras and backs currently sold each year. People at Fujifilm's would dance in the streets until the wee hours of the morning!

05-25-2019, 08:38 AM - 1 Like	#15
Winder Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Its an interesting camera with some pretty amazing technology. I can see it finding a home with commercial and advertising photographers, and even some fine art/digital art photographers who need really good files for serious manipulation. I would love to play with one for a few weeks, but I just don't have a need for one. The 24MP A9 files are more than enough for what I do and they are much easier on my hard drive. I'm running 8 cores at 4ghz and 32GB of RAM and LR/PS is still not as fast as I want with 24MP files.