Nikon to Announce APS-C Mirrorless

**FozzFoster** · 10-03-2019, 07:18 AM - **1 Like**

Reported from PetaPixel:

The Z50 will allegedly feature a 20MP APS-C sensor based on the Nikon D500 DSLR, boasts 11fps continuous shooting, 4K video capability, a 3-inch flip-down touchscreen LCD for selfies, a single SD card slot, no IBIS, and a price tag of around $1,000 for the body-only or about $1,200 in a kit with a new Nikkor Z 16-55mm f/3.5-6.3 lens designed specifically for APS-C sensors.

...announcement on October 10th.

Nikon to Announce Z50 APS-C Camera and 58mm f/0.95 Noct on October 10

**Serkevan** · 10-03-2019, 07:30 AM - **1 Like**

So just after the nice conversation about APS-C-optimized mounts, Nikon says that crop Z mount is their way to go. Also please don't buy Canon M series.

Around 1000 for body only with imaging and (presumably) AF/action performance similar to a D500 is interesting, if people are willing to go mirrorless and deal with the inevitably cheapy build quality...

The Squirrel Mafia · 10-03-2019, 09:16 AM - **1 Like**

Interesting. The lack of IBIS is a downer, though.

**Mbaez** · 10-03-2019, 09:38 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by FozzFoster

Reported from PetaPixel:

The Z50 will allegedly feature a 20MP APS-C sensor based on the Nikon D500 DSLR, boasts 11fps continuous shooting, 4K video capability, a 3-inch flip-down touchscreen LCD for selfies, a single SD card slot, no IBIS, and a price tag of around $1,000 for the body-only or about $1,200 in a kit with a new Nikkor Z 16-55mm f/3.5-6.3 lens designed specifically for APS-C sensors.

...announcement on October 10th.

Nikon to Announce Z50 APS-C Camera and 58mm f/0.95 Noct on October 10

You are better served with a D7500.

**FozzFoster** · 10-03-2019, 09:45 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Mbaez

You are better served with a D7500.

but... but... ...mirrorless!

haha

mmmmmmmmmm I think I'm better served with Pentax, thanks.

reh321 · 10-05-2019, 08:28 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by FozzFoster

Reported from PetaPixel:

The Z50 will allegedly feature a 20MP APS-C sensor based on the Nikon D500 DSLR, boasts 11fps continuous shooting, 4K video capability, a 3-inch flip-down touchscreen LCD for selfies, a single SD card slot, no IBIS, and a price tag of around $1,000 for the body-only or about $1,200 in a kit with a new Nikkor Z 16-55mm f/3.5-6.3 lens designed specifically for APS-C sensors.

...announcement on October 10th.

Yes, Nikon is acting a bit flustered now. Sony and Canon have the lead in MILC, and Nikon has decided that they need to catch up. With the rumored reduction in the overdue reduction in the types of "APS-C" bodies they sell, Nikon may be in the middle of remaking the company while still keeping their world position in cameras. we do live in interesting times.

biz-engineer · 10-10-2019, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by reh321

Nikon has decided that they need to catch up

For sure. Nikon are doing a pretty good job at releasing Z mount lenses and firmware update for the Z bodies. If Nikon continue at the current pace, the Z system will be a good choice by 2021.

y0chang · 10-10-2019, 10:00 AM

I do find that as a consumer, I would rather have Nikon strategy of using one z-mount for both crop and FF much better than the separate mounts of Canon mirrorless. I feel like ef-m-mount is going to be a dead mount in the future similar to Nikon 1 mount. Nikon put a lot of resources into small consumer cameras (nikon 1 and keymission and the 1" compact line that was never release) when that market dropped off the face of the earth. There must be a lot of regret about that decision.

**Mbaez** · 10-10-2019, 11:38 AM

Without IBIS, kit lenses that slow, and those prices, the new Nikon doesn't interest me at all.
I better save money for the new Pentax flagship.

biz-engineer · 10-10-2019, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by y0chang

I do find that as a consumer, I would rather have Nikon strategy of using one z-mount for both crop and FF much better than the separate mounts of Canon mirrorless. I feel like ef-m-mount is going to be a dead mount in the future similar to Nikon 1 mount. Nikon put a lot of resources into small consumer cameras (nikon 1 and keymission and the 1" compact line that was never release) when that market dropped off the face of the earth. There must be a lot of regret about that decision.

I totally agree. Canon may have made a mistake to not have the same mount for their apsc and full frame mirrorless systems. Using the same Z mount for apsc and full frame is a good thing.

The Squirrel Mafia · 10-10-2019, 11:51 AM

^ Maybe the Z60. Hahaha!

I have 0 interest in this Z50 camera as well.

**Serkevan** · 10-10-2019, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by biz-engineer

I totally agree. Canon may have made a mistake to not have the same mount for their apsc and full frame mirrorless systems. Using the same Z mount for apsc and full frame is a good thing.

So they should have killed the EF-M mount? There's no way they will do that when the EOS M50 was the most sold MILC in Japan a year ago or so (going from memory here, I might be wrong).

EDIT: in any case, neither Canon nor Nikon have ever given a serious thought to their crop lens selection beyond an assortment of kit-like and consumer grade options.
Canon has what, the 24mm 2.8 pancake, the 17-55/2.8 zoom and the various superzooms/kits/two tele options (50-200 and 70-300? Is the 70-300 FF?) both with 4-5.6 aperture?

**ffking** · 10-10-2019, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by Serkevan

So they should have killed the EF-M mount? There's no way they will do that

They have form

y0chang · 10-11-2019, 06:14 AM

Originally posted by Serkevan

So they should have killed the EF-M mount? There's no way they will do that when the EOS M50 was the most sold MILC in Japan a year ago or so (going from memory here, I might be wrong).

EDIT: in any case, neither Canon nor Nikon have ever given a serious thought to their crop lens selection beyond an assortment of kit-like and consumer grade options.
Canon has what, the 24mm 2.8 pancake, the 17-55/2.8 zoom and the various superzooms/kits/two tele options (50-200 and 70-300? Is the 70-300 FF?) both with 4-5.6 aperture?

At least in Z-mount you can use full frame lenses like the 50 f1.8 and 35mm 1.8 even if you are crop.

**Serkevan** · 10-11-2019, 06:24 AM

Originally posted by y0chang

At least in Z-mount you can use full frame lenses like the 50 f1.8 and 35mm 1.8 even if you are crop.

Canon has been making the EF/EF-M adapter since they started making the M mirrorless cameras right? Sure, it's an adapter, but it should work well enough. I also don't see the point of getting a Z50 just to slap FX-Z Lenses to it. At least the M series has small lenses.

10-03-2019, 07:18 AM - 1 Like	#1
FozzFoster Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806	Nikon to Announce APS-C Mirrorless Reported from PetaPixel: The Z50 will allegedly feature a 20MP APS-C sensor based on the Nikon D500 DSLR, boasts 11fps continuous shooting, 4K video capability, a 3-inch flip-down touchscreen LCD for selfies, a single SD card slot, no IBIS, and a price tag of around $1,000 for the body-only or about $1,200 in a kit with a new Nikkor Z 16-55mm f/3.5-6.3 lens designed specifically for APS-C sensors. ...announcement on October 10th. Nikon to Announce Z50 APS-C Camera and 58mm f/0.95 Noct on October 10

10-10-2019, 11:09 PM	#12
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by biz-engineer I totally agree. Canon may have made a mistake to not have the same mount for their apsc and full frame mirrorless systems. Using the same Z mount for apsc and full frame is a good thing. So they should have killed the EF-M mount? There's no way they will do that when the EOS M50 was the most sold MILC in Japan a year ago or so (going from memory here, I might be wrong). EDIT: in any case, neither Canon nor Nikon have ever given a serious thought to their crop lens selection beyond an assortment of kit-like and consumer grade options. Canon has what, the 24mm 2.8 pancake, the 17-55/2.8 zoom and the various superzooms/kits/two tele options (50-200 and 70-300? Is the 70-300 FF?) both with 4-5.6 aperture? Last edited by Serkevan; 10-10-2019 at 11:16 PM.

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10-03-2019, 07:30 AM - 1 Like	#2
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	So just after the nice conversation about APS-C-optimized mounts, Nikon says that crop Z mount is their way to go. Also please don't buy Canon M series. Around 1000 for body only with imaging and (presumably) AF/action performance similar to a D500 is interesting, if people are willing to go mirrorless and deal with the inevitably cheapy build quality...

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The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,053	Interesting. The lack of IBIS is a downer, though.

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Mbaez Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: NY Photos: Albums Posts: 3,772	Originally posted by FozzFoster Reported from PetaPixel: The Z50 will allegedly feature a 20MP APS-C sensor based on the Nikon D500 DSLR, boasts 11fps continuous shooting, 4K video capability, a 3-inch flip-down touchscreen LCD for selfies, a single SD card slot, no IBIS, and a price tag of around $1,000 for the body-only or about $1,200 in a kit with a new Nikkor Z 16-55mm f/3.5-6.3 lens designed specifically for APS-C sensors. ...announcement on October 10th. Nikon to Announce Z50 APS-C Camera and 58mm f/0.95 Noct on October 10 You are better served with a D7500.

10-03-2019, 09:45 AM - 3 Likes	#5
FozzFoster Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806 Original Poster	Originally posted by Mbaez You are better served with a D7500. but... but... ...mirrorless! haha mmmmmmmmmm I think I'm better served with Pentax, thanks.

10-05-2019, 08:28 PM - 1 Like	#6
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,175	Originally posted by FozzFoster Reported from PetaPixel: The Z50 will allegedly feature a 20MP APS-C sensor based on the Nikon D500 DSLR, boasts 11fps continuous shooting, 4K video capability, a 3-inch flip-down touchscreen LCD for selfies, a single SD card slot, no IBIS, and a price tag of around $1,000 for the body-only or about $1,200 in a kit with a new Nikkor Z 16-55mm f/3.5-6.3 lens designed specifically for APS-C sensors. ...announcement on October 10th. Yes, Nikon is acting a bit flustered now. Sony and Canon have the lead in MILC, and Nikon has decided that they need to catch up. With the rumored reduction in the overdue reduction in the types of "APS-C" bodies they sell, Nikon may be in the middle of remaking the company while still keeping their world position in cameras. we do live in interesting times.

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biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,224	Originally posted by reh321 Nikon has decided that they need to catch up For sure. Nikon are doing a pretty good job at releasing Z mount lenses and firmware update for the Z bodies. If Nikon continue at the current pace, the Z system will be a good choice by 2021.

10-10-2019, 10:00 AM	#8
y0chang Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: United States Posts: 793	I do find that as a consumer, I would rather have Nikon strategy of using one z-mount for both crop and FF much better than the separate mounts of Canon mirrorless. I feel like ef-m-mount is going to be a dead mount in the future similar to Nikon 1 mount. Nikon put a lot of resources into small consumer cameras (nikon 1 and keymission and the 1" compact line that was never release) when that market dropped off the face of the earth. There must be a lot of regret about that decision.

10-10-2019, 11:38 AM	#9
Mbaez Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: NY Photos: Albums Posts: 3,772	Without IBIS, kit lenses that slow, and those prices, the new Nikon doesn't interest me at all. I better save money for the new Pentax flagship.

10-10-2019, 11:42 AM	#10
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,224	Originally posted by y0chang I do find that as a consumer, I would rather have Nikon strategy of using one z-mount for both crop and FF much better than the separate mounts of Canon mirrorless. I feel like ef-m-mount is going to be a dead mount in the future similar to Nikon 1 mount. Nikon put a lot of resources into small consumer cameras (nikon 1 and keymission and the 1" compact line that was never release) when that market dropped off the face of the earth. There must be a lot of regret about that decision. I totally agree. Canon may have made a mistake to not have the same mount for their apsc and full frame mirrorless systems. Using the same Z mount for apsc and full frame is a good thing.

10-10-2019, 11:51 AM	#11
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,053	^ Maybe the Z60. Hahaha! I have 0 interest in this Z50 camera as well.

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10-10-2019, 11:15 PM	#13
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by Serkevan So they should have killed the EF-M mount? There's no way they will do that They have form

10-11-2019, 06:14 AM	#14
y0chang Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: United States Posts: 793	Originally posted by Serkevan So they should have killed the EF-M mount? There's no way they will do that when the EOS M50 was the most sold MILC in Japan a year ago or so (going from memory here, I might be wrong). EDIT: in any case, neither Canon nor Nikon have ever given a serious thought to their crop lens selection beyond an assortment of kit-like and consumer grade options. Canon has what, the 24mm 2.8 pancake, the 17-55/2.8 zoom and the various superzooms/kits/two tele options (50-200 and 70-300? Is the 70-300 FF?) both with 4-5.6 aperture? At least in Z-mount you can use full frame lenses like the 50 f1.8 and 35mm 1.8 even if you are crop.

10-11-2019, 06:24 AM	#15
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by y0chang At least in Z-mount you can use full frame lenses like the 50 f1.8 and 35mm 1.8 even if you are crop. Canon has been making the EF/EF-M adapter since they started making the M mirrorless cameras right? Sure, it's an adapter, but it should work well enough. I also don't see the point of getting a Z50 just to slap FX-Z Lenses to it. At least the M series has small lenses.