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surfar · 03-07-2021, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by mecrox

then look at jumping up to medium format which at this rate will soon be less costly than FF.

Thats already the case,Fuji 50R can be had for U$D 3000ish new, down from 4500 RRP a couple of years ago.

With the AF adapters available and FF lenses that cover 33x44,its a viable option.

KiloHotelphoto · 03-07-2021, 02:18 PM

For wildlife medium format really isn’t a great option and sports and wildlife is what the R1 is made for.

I’m hoping when the R1 is officially announced and released they may also have a 600/4 RF, that is more likely where my money will go.

surfar · 03-07-2021, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by KiloHotelphoto

they may also have a 600/4 RF

Youtu.be

surfar · 03-08-2021, 02:53 AM

....................................

Youtu.be

repaap · 03-08-2021, 03:56 AM

Afull amount of BS. That is what these video are all about. My god. And Sorry about that. But I just literally wasted 15 minutes. Do you know what. I agree with Simon. That 85 MP and non overheating 8K quadpixel AF is just a weird wishlist. That is all. Nikon is oming up with 8K and other specs big boys are puttin out there. But this one has to be for serious shooting in order to get those old 1DX models out of pro's hands and replace them by this. As well as sell to those guys new big whiteones. I'd say very good 4K and lower mp, like 45? or even 30? to get shooting on the very next level. and have 1DX body on it as well. And that is it. no big drama. no overheat, no sweat. State of art AF with very fast shooting. They don't want to go on the thin ice, do they...(sorry Mike)..

surfar · 03-09-2021, 01:18 PM

Its a Toneh video only,Chelseh was too embarrassed to be part of it.

I wonder how many of their disciples will believe?

Youtu.be

LeeRunge · 03-10-2021, 10:39 AM

I'm betting when the dust settles we will have 3 super expensive cameras in the R1 A1 and Z9 that are all super close in specs and AF performance.

repaap · 03-10-2021, 11:44 AM

Yeah. Let the dust settle. We will find out what will happen then. It could be that canonR1 will be going for super high specs. Z9 the same? It will be interesting to see what happens next.

surfar · 03-10-2021, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by LeeRunge

we will have 3 super expensive cameras in the R1 A1 and Z9

Yes,so the Ricoh Flagship will be Cheeep! Obviously,the delay is a ploy by RI to wait till the leaked astronomical prices appear.Then point out how inexpensive it is compared to FF!

So Pentax comes back to Bang4Buck.

**jpzk** · 03-10-2021, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by repaap

Afull amount of BS. That is what these video are all about. My god. And Sorry about that. But I just literally wasted 15 minutes. Do you know what. I agree with Simon. That 85 MP and non overheating 8K quadpixel AF is just a weird wishlist. That is all. Nikon is oming up with 8K and other specs big boys are puttin out there. But this one has to be for serious shooting in order to get those old 1DX models out of pro's hands and replace them by this. As well as sell to those guys new big whiteones. I'd say very good 4K and lower mp, like 45? or even 30? to get shooting on the very next level. and have 1DX body on it as well. And that is it. no big drama. no overheat, no sweat. State of art AF with very fast shooting. They don't want to go on the thin ice, do they...(sorry Mike)..

Originally posted by surfar

Its a Toneh video only,Chelseh was too embarrassed to be part of it.

I wonder how many of their disciples will believe?

https://youtu.be/RRrRtVtaPlI

Are you guys saying this is all fake news?

LeeRunge · 03-10-2021, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by surfar

Yes,so the Ricoh Flagship will be Cheeep! Obviously,the delay is a ploy by RI to wait till the leaked astronomical prices appear.Then point out how inexpensive it is compared to FF!

So Pentax comes back to Bang4Buck.

At least all this will trickle down into the 2000 and below body's in a few years for the rest of us. I actually hope Nikon/Canon and Sony just go 33% of market each so we get cheaper better cameras with them trying to outperform each other once it trickles into the lower end gear. Pentax will Pentax and release when they're ready with a solid offer.

surfar · 03-10-2021, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by jpzk

Are you guys saying this is all fake news?

Well,some of it is very likely not real.

However,some could be very close to fact,Canon have been developing QuadPixel AF for a while, so what better way to launch than in a Flagship body.

The 9steps of stabilisation,they have 8 already with the fastest glass,So it may be possible as there could be surprise glass too?

AS it stands,the Spec info comes from a "unknown source" on a rumour site.The chances of 100% accuracy is questionable.

LeeRunge · 03-10-2021, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by surfar

Well,some of it is very likely not real.

However,some could be very close to fact,Canon have been developing QuadPixel AF for a while, so what better way to launch than in a Flagship body.

The 9steps of stabilisation,they have 8 already with the fastest glass,So it may be possible as there could be surprise glass too?

AS it stands,the Spec info comes from a "unknown source" on a rumour site.The chances of 100% accuracy is questionable.

I'm betting top of the line AF, lower megapixel sensor, maybe something based off R5 as that's a good sensor. Great video capability with no overheating and maybe pushing 8k more? or slow-mo 4k. Probably like an enhanced R5 with a bit better specs across the board.

I'm really really curious if Nikon ups its AF game and makes this exciting. Not that I'll buy any of these but it's fun to watch them compete and it'll shape the future less expensive cameras.

surfar · 03-10-2021, 03:58 PM

Originally posted by LeeRunge

Probably like an enhanced R5 with a bit better specs across the board.

Thats a good bet!

The plausible rumours prior to this "out there" bunch of specs, was an R5 in IDX size body.Cooling fan for longer 8K recording of course.

Another plausible one was about the HI res, body that they dubbed R5 S...85mp coming from the wafer that is in M6mk2 and 90D.

This latest spec "speculation" seems to have combined these and added some...Ha Ha.

With Nikons Z9 development statement, it could force Canon to reveal exactly what's coming?

LeeRunge · 03-10-2021, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by surfar

Thats a good bet!

The plausible rumours prior to this "out there" bunch of specs, was an R5 in IDX size body.Cooling fan for longer 8K recording of course.

Another plausible one was about the HI res, body that they dubbed R5 S...85mp coming from the wafer that is in M6mk2 and 90D.

This latest spec "speculation" seems to have combined these and added some...Ha Ha.

With Nikons Z9 development statement, it could force Canon to reveal exactly what's coming?

Canon will be smart and wait for the Nikon hype to die down then strike I bet. I mean I'd be excited as a pro Canon user. And for everyone else it's like a preview of a future RP down the line. Canon's been on a roll lately. If they had sealed that 24-240 I would have an R6, not joking. They almost got me. Nikon weather sealing ftw lol. Same way Pentax got me. I don't like not being able to use my cameras because it's a little wet or dusty outside.

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03-07-2021, 12:53 PM	#16
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,145 Original Poster	Originally posted by mecrox then look at jumping up to medium format which at this rate will soon be less costly than FF. Thats already the case,Fuji 50R can be had for U$D 3000ish new, down from 4500 RRP a couple of years ago. With the AF adapters available and FF lenses that cover 33x44,its a viable option.

03-07-2021, 02:18 PM	#17
KiloHotelphoto Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Glen Mills, PA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,030	For wildlife medium format really isn’t a great option and sports and wildlife is what the R1 is made for. I’m hoping when the R1 is officially announced and released they may also have a 600/4 RF, that is more likely where my money will go.

03-08-2021, 03:56 AM	#20
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Afull amount of BS. That is what these video are all about. My god. And Sorry about that. But I just literally wasted 15 minutes. Do you know what. I agree with Simon. That 85 MP and non overheating 8K quadpixel AF is just a weird wishlist. That is all. Nikon is oming up with 8K and other specs big boys are puttin out there. But this one has to be for serious shooting in order to get those old 1DX models out of pro's hands and replace them by this. As well as sell to those guys new big whiteones. I'd say very good 4K and lower mp, like 45? or even 30? to get shooting on the very next level. and have 1DX body on it as well. And that is it. no big drama. no overheat, no sweat. State of art AF with very fast shooting. They don't want to go on the thin ice, do they...(sorry Mike)..

03-10-2021, 10:39 AM	#22
LeeRunge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 996	I'm betting when the dust settles we will have 3 super expensive cameras in the R1 A1 and Z9 that are all super close in specs and AF performance.

03-10-2021, 11:44 AM	#23
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Yeah. Let the dust settle. We will find out what will happen then. It could be that canonR1 will be going for super high specs. Z9 the same? It will be interesting to see what happens next.

03-10-2021, 01:00 PM	#24
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,145 Original Poster	Originally posted by LeeRunge we will have 3 super expensive cameras in the R1 A1 and Z9 Yes,so the Ricoh Flagship will be Cheeep! Obviously,the delay is a ploy by RI to wait till the leaked astronomical prices appear.Then point out how inexpensive it is compared to FF! So Pentax comes back to Bang4Buck.

03-10-2021, 01:08 PM	#25
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Originally posted by repaap Afull amount of BS. That is what these video are all about. My god. And Sorry about that. But I just literally wasted 15 minutes. Do you know what. I agree with Simon. That 85 MP and non overheating 8K quadpixel AF is just a weird wishlist. That is all. Nikon is oming up with 8K and other specs big boys are puttin out there. But this one has to be for serious shooting in order to get those old 1DX models out of pro's hands and replace them by this. As well as sell to those guys new big whiteones. I'd say very good 4K and lower mp, like 45? or even 30? to get shooting on the very next level. and have 1DX body on it as well. And that is it. no big drama. no overheat, no sweat. State of art AF with very fast shooting. They don't want to go on the thin ice, do they...(sorry Mike).. Originally posted by surfar Its a Toneh video only,Chelseh was too embarrassed to be part of it. I wonder how many of their disciples will believe? https://youtu.be/RRrRtVtaPlI Are you guys saying this is all fake news?

03-10-2021, 01:25 PM	#26
LeeRunge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 996	Originally posted by surfar Yes,so the Ricoh Flagship will be Cheeep! Obviously,the delay is a ploy by RI to wait till the leaked astronomical prices appear.Then point out how inexpensive it is compared to FF! So Pentax comes back to Bang4Buck. At least all this will trickle down into the 2000 and below body's in a few years for the rest of us. I actually hope Nikon/Canon and Sony just go 33% of market each so we get cheaper better cameras with them trying to outperform each other once it trickles into the lower end gear. Pentax will Pentax and release when they're ready with a solid offer.

03-10-2021, 02:35 PM	#27
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,145 Original Poster	Originally posted by jpzk Are you guys saying this is all fake news? Well,some of it is very likely not real. However,some could be very close to fact,Canon have been developing QuadPixel AF for a while, so what better way to launch than in a Flagship body. The 9steps of stabilisation,they have 8 already with the fastest glass,So it may be possible as there could be surprise glass too? AS it stands,the Spec info comes from a "unknown source" on a rumour site.The chances of 100% accuracy is questionable.

03-10-2021, 03:05 PM	#28
LeeRunge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 996	Originally posted by surfar Well,some of it is very likely not real. However,some could be very close to fact,Canon have been developing QuadPixel AF for a while, so what better way to launch than in a Flagship body. The 9steps of stabilisation,they have 8 already with the fastest glass,So it may be possible as there could be surprise glass too? AS it stands,the Spec info comes from a "unknown source" on a rumour site.The chances of 100% accuracy is questionable. I'm betting top of the line AF, lower megapixel sensor, maybe something based off R5 as that's a good sensor. Great video capability with no overheating and maybe pushing 8k more? or slow-mo 4k. Probably like an enhanced R5 with a bit better specs across the board. I'm really really curious if Nikon ups its AF game and makes this exciting. Not that I'll buy any of these but it's fun to watch them compete and it'll shape the future less expensive cameras.

03-10-2021, 03:58 PM	#29
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,145 Original Poster	Originally posted by LeeRunge Probably like an enhanced R5 with a bit better specs across the board. Thats a good bet! The plausible rumours prior to this "out there" bunch of specs, was an R5 in IDX size body.Cooling fan for longer 8K recording of course. Another plausible one was about the HI res, body that they dubbed R5 S...85mp coming from the wafer that is in M6mk2 and 90D. This latest spec "speculation" seems to have combined these and added some...Ha Ha. With Nikons Z9 development statement, it could force Canon to reveal exactly what's coming?

03-10-2021, 04:02 PM	#30
LeeRunge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 996	Originally posted by surfar Thats a good bet! The plausible rumours prior to this "out there" bunch of specs, was an R5 in IDX size body.Cooling fan for longer 8K recording of course. Another plausible one was about the HI res, body that they dubbed R5 S...85mp coming from the wafer that is in M6mk2 and 90D. This latest spec "speculation" seems to have combined these and added some...Ha Ha. With Nikons Z9 development statement, it could force Canon to reveal exactly what's coming? Canon will be smart and wait for the Nikon hype to die down then strike I bet. I mean I'd be excited as a pro Canon user. And for everyone else it's like a preview of a future RP down the line. Canon's been on a roll lately. If they had sealed that 24-240 I would have an R6, not joking. They almost got me. Nikon weather sealing ftw lol. Same way Pentax got me. I don't like not being able to use my cameras because it's a little wet or dusty outside.

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