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05-23-2022, 06:05 PM   #1
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CANON R7 and R10,tomorrow.


After 5 R series bodies with FF sensors,Canon will announce that Albino Unicorn 7Dmk2 replacement in the R7 crop body.

Specs are likely to be 32mp

5axis IBIS

Dual UHS2 card slots

15fps mechanical 30 fps electronic

4K 24/5/30 50/60 and 1080 120fps moving pictures

WR body at 612gms

price is U$ 1499

The R10 is the entry level and price of U$ 979

24mp

No Ibis or WR

Similar video to R7

15fps mechanical but crippled to 23 electronic.

Single UHS2 card slot

Two lenses designated RFs a 18-45 and a 18-150.Both variable speeds.

They will sell PLENTY.


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The early comments I'm seeing after the spec announcements aren't showing the Canon's much love. Not that it matters.
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The early comments I'm seeing after the spec announcements aren't showing the Canon's much love.
Where are those comments?

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Wake me up when they do a retro crop body like the Z fc.

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Wake me up when they do a retro crop body like the Z fc.
Wake me up when theres a decent range of lenses for it.
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They're missing something like an 18-135 and a good 28mm with AF in native mount. Everything else seems basically solved to me. Both could be solved with an EF to RF adapter but I don't like that solution long-term.

A good modern 28mm with a fast aperture and good AF seems to be not so easy to find in a lot of systems these days...
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They're missing something like an 18-135 and a good 28mm with AF in native mount. Everything else seems basically solved to me. Both could be solved with an EF to RF adapter but I don't like that solution long-term.

A good modern 28mm with a fast aperture and good AF seems to be not so easy to find in a lot of systems these days...
Not so sure anything is missing for Canon.

Official announcements are tomorrow in US somewhere I think.Its been the 24th in my part of the world for 15 odd hours(NZ time) so those that are behind eventually catch up.

The transition from EF/efs to RF/rfs isnt going to happen overnight but it is happening.

These crop bodies will sell well,I'll await official pricing though.

Certainly the dual slot body will be popular and the entry level may be overpriced if the SouthAfricans are correct.

Theres 130 million EF lenses out there to adapt ,and the consensus of opinion from people who went from Dslr to R systems that the Ef glass works better on M/L than it did on that old mirrored stuff.I have no personal experience because Ive never owned a Canon Dslr(only Pentax).

Did you read about the 2 lenses being released, one is a 18-150.So thats not missing, you missed it.

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First you suggest there isn't a decent range of lenses for it. I counter with some ideas (let's see how great that 18-150 is, I have doubts, that's a bad zoom range to try and cover from pretty-wide to pretty-tele) and now you're saying they don't need anything. Which is it? Where's their 28mm F1.x that is sharpish wide-open with half-decent corners to boot? That's what I'm looking for and I don't see it in native mount with AF.
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QuoteOriginally posted by surfar Quote
CANON R7 and R10,tomorrow.
Today.

Interesting specs, 32Mpixels @ 30 FPS on a crop sensor. That's almost 100Mpixels full frame, we'll be there a few years from now, especially when most personal computers will be able to process 100Mpx files easily.
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nteresting specs, 32Mpixels @ 30 FPS on a crop sensor.
Its not a huge buffer and does not have CF express, it does have the top of the line Digic X processor.

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First you suggest there isn't a decent range of lenses for it.
THE NIKON you mentioned.theres 3 in how many years.
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Its not a huge buffer and does not have CF express, it does have the top of the line Digic X processor.
I noticed , according to the press release, the R7 is priced ($1499) cheaper than the K3. But I'm never impressed by Canon plastic constructions, except for their professional (1D, R3) type bodies.
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QuoteOriginally posted by biz-engineer Quote
Today.

Interesting specs, 32Mpixels @ 30 FPS on a crop sensor. That's almost 100Mpixels full frame, we'll be there a few years from now, especially when most personal computers will be able to process 100Mpx files easily.
So that will be the same sensor that is in the 90D and M6 mark ll?
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Since there have been FIVE (count 'em) R-series full-frame bodies in just four years, the smart crop-sensor Canon shooter - IMHO - will wait at least a year before buying... see what issues, if any, are found with the new body; wait for them to be addressed either in firmware or - more likely - an all-new model that replaces the R7 around 12 months after its release.

Of course, the really smart / value-savvy crop-sensor Canon shooter (again, IMHO) will be looking for new and/or lightly-used deals on the field-proven 90D (with the same sensor) and EF-S lenses. Canon will want to encourage take-up of the new camera, and the "old" 90D will suddenly (and somewhat ridiculously) become less capable and attractive than it was before the R7 arrived, so prices may drop.

Then again some of those buying the R7 will already be 90D and EF-S lens users... in which case, I'm sure "shiny new camera" will utterly revolutionise their photography and elevate their results to a whole new level they couldn't previously achieve. Then again, for 99% of them, perhaps not...

Still, in a rare turn of events I agree with the OP. They will sell plenty... It's Canon, after all...

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So that will be the same sensor that is in the 90D and M6 mark ll?
It hasn't been confirmed officially at this stage but when you consider the RP had the 6Dmk2 sensor(with updated processor)and the R had the 5Dmk4 sensor(with updated processor)...then its a safe bet.

The processor is Digic X(ten, they skipped 9) which is in R3/5/6.Its the latest.

So they have gone into the parts bin and put the R7 and R10 together.Its thought the R10 is the M50 sensor.

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Still, in a rare turn of events I agree with the OP. They will sell plenty... It's Canon, after all...
Fro's review say its a U$ 1499 body only.For what its capable of, theres nothing that can match it(right now).

In saying that,Fuji have their launch on 31st.Its a stacked sensor that does 40fps ES but I'm thinking its a 1899 or 1999 release price.

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. But I'm never impressed by Canon plastic constructions, except for their professional (1D, R3) type bodies.
Reviews are saying the same level of WR as the 90D which probably falls short of Pentax level.
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QuoteOriginally posted by surfar Quote
Fro's review say its a U$ 1499 body only.For what its capable of, theres nothing that can match it(right now).
I'm sure it's a spec-sheet and price-competition wonder, surfar, but here's what I find just a little amusing, not to mentioning somewhat baffling... Whilst some of its buyers will be replacing their 5 - 10 years-old systems (and good for them if that's the case), a much larger number of its buyers - I respectfully suggest - will be selling their much-more-recent kit, spending more money on the new R7 and lenses / adapters - and convincing themselves they've somehow saved money in the process (because it's only $1,499 !!) - to take pretty much the same photos they took before. A small percentage might actually benefit from the improved specs, but seriously, most won't. It's their money, though...

It's not just a Canon thing, of course...

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In saying that,Fuji have their launch on 31st.Its a stacked sensor that does 40fps ES but I'm thinking its a 1899 or 1999 release price.
Stacked sensor and 40fps?! At last... a system that meets our collective needs!!! I look forward to seeing photos from it, the likes of which we'll never have seen before!

Look, everybody... Shiny new thing! Best product ever at the price! All things before are bad!! Much better than last one!! Don't get left behind!! Must have!! Spend to save, folks - spend to save!

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