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10-15-2009, 07:07 PM   #16
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I don't have any real complaints about the AF - remember I'm coming from Pentax

It's funny because I got chastised on the dpr forum for using single/center point. Some arse insisted that is totally wrong. I love dpr...

I still use single/center point and recompose. I switch between single focus and AI. AI starts with a single focus but then moves to servo (continuous) it if senses something moving. I can't really complain but I don't shoot a lot of fast moving stuff.

Beyond that I've bonded pretty well with the camera. A few interface and usability niggles, but I've gotten used to the UI and it actually matches my shooting style fairly well. It fits my hand well (a primary concern) and the L glass took the sting out of getting rid of all my FA ltd. The shoot I did last week with the 16-35 went perfectly, I was shooting in terrible low light and got great files, both still and video.

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I use center point too

I use center point too, lock exposure with my * button and recompose.

Good to hear you like the HD you're getting off 5DII. Is the exact 30fps video causing you problems? I've read 7D does correct 29.97fps, which I guess is a standard frame rate.

I want to wait for 5DIII. Hopefully it won't take 40 months again for the next 5D upgrade.

Are you using 21mp setting or the two smaller Raw formats?

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I use center point too, lock exposure with my * button and recompose.

Good to hear you like the HD you're getting off 5DII. Is the exact 30fps video causing you problems? I've read 7D does correct 29.97fps, which I guess is a standard frame rate.

I want to wait for 5DIII. Hopefully it won't take 40 months again for the next 5D upgrade.

Are you using 21mp setting or the two smaller Raw formats?
I didn't have an issue with 30fps because I wasn't using any sound. I was cutting in a project with multiple frame rates so I just dealt with having to rerender whenever I did edits.

I use the full size raw, as Aperture doesn't support either of the sRAW formats. I'm pondering a switch to LightRoom though, as I'm tired of not having raw support for my DLux4, or for a GF1 if I get one of those.
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QuoteOriginally posted by nostatic Quote
I didn't have an issue with 30fps because I wasn't using any sound. I was cutting in a project with multiple frame rates so I just dealt with having to rerender whenever I did edits.

I use the full size raw, as Aperture doesn't support either of the sRAW formats. I'm pondering a switch to LightRoom though, as I'm tired of not having raw support for my DLux4, or for a GF1 if I get one of those.
I really can't get Adobe Camera RAW / Lightroom to do a conversion as good as DPP does for either of my Canon bodies. It sucks, because LR did great with the K20D, but DPP just eeks out a good bit more detail out of the files...

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I assume you've seen this video site

I assume you've seen this video site:

Philip Bloom

As far as smaller raw formats in 5D Mark II they do concern me. Not everything I've read is positive. Had the 5DII come with 13mp or a tad bit more I'd be more enthusiastic about it. Maybe even have paid full issue for one already. It has other features I want but 21mp isn't one of those features I have to add, yet. This sRaw seems to be a Canon only creation right?


I'd guess the nice thing about using 5DII for video is they are plentiful so there are hundreds of people out there to draw info from. Its seems people are making real good use of its video feature as every week passes I see more links to comercials , music videos being made with it.
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If I switch to a FF (Canon 5D or Sony a850) what would be the best UWA lens for both of these cameras...that is equivilant to 10mm on the Sigma 10-20? (prime or zoom)
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FOV equivalent would be the Sigma 15-30mm, although there are also other options like the 16-35 and 17-40, and also even wider... sigma 12-24mm (APS-C 8-16mm!)

You can also still use 10-20mm starting from 14mm, although the result is less than stellar on the corners...

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Well the very best ultrawide is Nikon's 14-24mm 2.8

Well the very best ultrawide is Nikon's 14-24mm 2.8

To use it on Canon body costs around $300 for custom adapter:

Nikon G - Canon EOS Adapter

The Canon 16-35mm 2.8L II is a very nice lens also. I own both, but choose to add D700 Nikon to drive their 14-24mm 2.8 instead of buying adapter. Adapter maker takes 6 months or longer after you pay to fullfill order so that may be a problem for some/many. For me it comes in handy to have two ultrawides as the wife and I both shoot at same time. I suspect I'll continue with dual brand, Canon and Nikon forever. Each system has its pluses.

QuoteOriginally posted by ozlizard Quote
If I switch to a FF (Canon 5D or Sony a850) what would be the best UWA lens for both of these cameras...that is equivilant to 10mm on the Sigma 10-20? (prime or zoom)
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5D2 focusing

Central point is always dead on, other focusing points occasionally might miss.
I had to microadjust with camera my EF 50/1.4 mm + 11, now it is dead on. L lenses were accurate from the beginning and never needed micro adjustment.

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Hey! didn't realized you got yourself the mkII, what a sweet camera. I know everything about is good except I keep hearing of the AF...what are your thoughts on the AF-C. Congrats.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Samsungian Quote
Well the very best ultrawide is Nikon's 14-24mm 2.8

To use it on Canon body costs around $300 for custom adapter:

Nikon G - Canon EOS Adapter

The Canon 16-35mm 2.8L II is a very nice lens also. I own both, but choose to add D700 Nikon to drive their 14-24mm 2.8 instead of buying adapter. Adapter maker takes 6 months or longer after you pay to fullfill order so that may be a problem for some/many. For me it comes in handy to have two ultrawides as the wife and I both shoot at same time. I suspect I'll continue with dual brand, Canon and Nikon forever. Each system has its pluses.
D700's 12mpix chip is holding back the 14-24. It simply does not allow that kickass quality you get out of D3x. I have had D700 + 14-24 for 1.5 months now and shot ~1500 shots with it when trying to learn it's complex field curvature and how to actually focus it properly. Call me heretic but the quality I got with K20D + Sigma 10-20mm wasn't actually that much worse (if any). I tested my 14-24 in the local shop with D3x and dude, there's a LOT in reserve in those additional megapixels...

So I'm waiting for D700x if it ever comes. If it doesn't, well I ended up with D700 because the used 1Ds MKII I actually purchased was screwed up by local Canon-certified service. They destroyed the sensor while "cleaning" it up. Now I was very upset due to that. Still am. I EVEN ORDERED THAT DAMN nikon-g to eos adapter, which by the way, takes ages to get it seems. Fortunately I can sell it for premium price I expect to get almost double price out of it. They are that rare.

EDIT: Forget to add that the 5D mk1 + 17-40L combo I had for a short while wasn't bad either compared to D700 + 14-24. Only thing were it sucked was the foreground sharpness. However, put that 17-40L to 5DMK2 and then *facepalm*...

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Hmm, even the 17-40L doesn't measure up to 5d2's sensor eh?
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Hmm, even the 17-40L doesn't measure up to 5d2's sensor eh?
Nope, the 17-40L is designed for crop bodies.
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Nope, the 17-40L is designed for crop bodies.
Canon 17-40L is FF lens, I use it on 5D2 and it is fine sharp lens. A real gem for it's price. It has some vignetting which 5D2 software corrects very effectively.
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Well of course my 17-40 could have been decentered etc. but what I noticed was that:

1) On 5D MK1 and MK2 the center of the picture was very good in resolution
2) On 5D MK2 however when going from center towards the lower left and right corner the image got soft much more quickly than with MK1. With 800x600 web-images you can't see it but blow it up to 50% actual pixel size and MK2 file starts to fail to a point where object placed in the lower thirds of a frame is noticeably soft. And no, I'm not talking about wide open performance. This is with F/11 and smaller apertures. Phase One's Capture One is able to fix this partially with it's lens correction feature. If allows gradually more sharpening for the corners.
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