New Ricoh Camera is Here!

Angevinn · 11-09-2009, 01:47 PM

Includes a leaked video (that doesn't play) and system specs.

Ricoh GXR | Photo Rumors

* The smallest interchangeable lenses camera on the market today – smaller than m4/3 from
Olympus and Panasonic
* You can change the sensor! The lens and the sensor form a package! I told you this one would be
something special.
* Available in December.
* Two lenses introduced: 24-72mm f/2.5-4.4 with 10MP CCD built-in sensor and VGA video. Price:
£300.
* 50mm f/2.5 macro lens with a 12.3MP CMOS sensor and HD video. Price: £600.
* Ricoh GXR body price: £420.

from photorumors.com

Last edited by Angevinn; 11-09-2009 at 01:52 PM.

FullertonImages · 11-09-2009, 02:02 PM

The lens and sensor are in one package? That's crazy. I think it's a dumb idea. So you can't change the lens and sensor separately? Also, it looks like it was designed for the special forces.

**Ahab** · 11-09-2009, 02:16 PM

Ricoh has non-exsistant customer service, why should I want one?

Angevinn · 11-09-2009, 02:20 PM

It's an interesting design. I don't understand why Ricoh is coupling the lenses to the sensor. Sensor technology changes so quickly. Maybe they will release a K-mount/sensor adapter in the future.

kevinschoenmakers · 11-09-2009, 02:21 PM

This is daring and I'm curious to see how it'll be recieved by Joe Consumer. I'm a little disappointed they didn't go all the way and make the sensor and lenses detachable from eachother. That would have been some revolution.

ytterbium · 11-09-2009, 02:38 PM

But they can make a sensor cartridge which supports detachable lenses at any time. Still it looks too much like a mock up camera, even more - a 3d render instead of real model, so one cant be sure.

Prognathous · 11-09-2009, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by Ahab

Ricoh has non-exsistant customer service, why should I want one?

Maybe you shouldn't, but those who want its unique capabilities would go for it and settle for less than the quickest service. Not that Ricoh seem to care that much about markets other than the Japanese one.

Oh, and by the way, Ricoh's US service is handled by C.R.I.S Camera. Guess what? they're located in Arizona, just a couple of hours drive from where you live

Originally posted by Angevinn

It's an interesting design. I don't understand why Ricoh is coupling the lenses to the sensor. Sensor technology changes so quickly. Maybe they will release a K-mount/sensor adapter in the future.

Simple. They can match the lens and the sensor. Use a small-sensor for zoom lenses and maintain pocketability (unlike M43), and use a larger APS-C sensor with lenses that are used in situations where size can be compromised (e.g. tele and macro lenses).

Originally posted by ytterbium

But they can make a sensor cartridge which supports detachable lenses at any time. Still it looks too much like a mock up camera, even more - a 3d render instead of real model, so one cant be sure.

The pictures may be of a mock up, but the camera is very real. See this video:

Link to 'Which' Ricoh Video: Ricoh Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

Prog.

**Aristophanes** · 11-09-2009, 07:15 PM

One word:

FUGLY

*isteve · 11-09-2009, 07:20 PM

Thats definately a standard digicam sensor camera - not 4/3 or APSC IMO.

For Ricoh this makes perfect sense. Instead of having to choose a GRD3 or GX300 you can have both - and upgrade your camera every few years when a new module comes out for less money than upgrading the whole camera (which has stayed pretty much the same for years anyway).

As a Gx100 owner, I still have no reason to change. I love the darn thing.

KungPOW · 11-09-2009, 07:33 PM

Pentax had shown a camera system a few yeasr back (2006 maybe?) that used sensor/lens combos.

So, now we wait and see if Ricoh offers a K mount sensor?

here is a photo of the beast:

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina2006/Pentax/IMG_0410.jpg

**Rondec** · 11-09-2009, 07:52 PM

It may be interesting to Ricoh folks, but I don't exactly see this as a game changer. Just a slightly different take on a static theme.

SuperAkuma · 11-09-2009, 08:19 PM

here is a video that I found over at dp
Ricoh GXR? earthrise photography

KungPOW · 11-09-2009, 08:46 PM

So not only will the body be obsolete in 5 years but so will the lenses!

Woot +1 for a consumer's dream system!

ogl · 11-09-2009, 09:44 PM

One of the craziest idea...

10 MP CCD + zoom...
12 MP CMOS + macro...

* Two lenses introduced: 24-72mm f/2.5-4.4 with 10MP CCD built-in sensor and VGA video. Price:
£300. + body £420. = £720 (805 euro)

* 50mm f/2.5 macro lens with a 12.3MP CMOS sensor and HD video. Price: £600 + body £420 = £1020 (1140 euro).

rather expensive....

ƒŠƒR[Agƒ†ƒjƒbƒgŒðŠ·Ž®hƒfƒWƒ^ƒ‹ƒJƒƒ‰uGXRv - ƒfƒWƒJƒWatch

10 MP CCD sensor is 1/1,7"
CMOS - 12 MP APS-C with 4 fps and 1280*720@24 fps video

Future units:

"portrait photography unit with full-size sensor"
"ultra-wide unit "
"super-telephoto unit / high-sensitivity astronomical photography"
"ultra high-speed continuous shooting sports сapture unit " -
" waterproof and dustproof unit"

lurchlarson · 11-10-2009, 12:27 AM

Innovative experiment. I don't know that the average consumer would go for this. Might be a little to far forward. It'll also make changing the lens a pain when you're in the field. Slow you down quite a bit.

11-09-2009, 01:47 PM	#1
Angevinn Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago, Ill. Posts: 204	New Ricoh Camera is Here! Includes a leaked video (that doesn't play) and system specs. Ricoh GXR \| Photo Rumors * The smallest interchangeable lenses camera on the market today – smaller than m4/3 from Olympus and Panasonic * You can change the sensor! The lens and the sensor form a package! I told you this one would be something special. * Available in December. * Two lenses introduced: 24-72mm f/2.5-4.4 with 10MP CCD built-in sensor and VGA video. Price: £300. * 50mm f/2.5 macro lens with a 12.3MP CMOS sensor and HD video. Price: £600. * Ricoh GXR body price: £420. from photorumors.com Last edited by Angevinn; 11-09-2009 at 01:52 PM.

11-09-2009, 09:44 PM	#14
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	One of the craziest idea... 10 MP CCD + zoom... 12 MP CMOS + macro... * Two lenses introduced: 24-72mm f/2.5-4.4 with 10MP CCD built-in sensor and VGA video. Price: £300. + body £420. = £720 (805 euro) * 50mm f/2.5 macro lens with a 12.3MP CMOS sensor and HD video. Price: £600 + body £420 = £1020 (1140 euro). rather expensive.... ƒŠƒR[Agƒ†ƒjƒbƒgŒðŠ·Ž®hƒfƒWƒ^ƒ‹ƒJƒƒ‰uGXRv - ƒfƒWƒJƒWatch 10 MP CCD sensor is 1/1,7" CMOS - 12 MP APS-C with 4 fps and 1280720@24 fps video Future units: "portrait photography unit with full-size sensor" "ultra-wide unit " "super-telephoto unit / high-sensitivity astronomical photography" "ultra high-speed continuous shooting sports сapture unit " - " waterproof and dustproof unit" Last edited by ogl; 11-09-2009 at 11:32 PM.*

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FullertonImages Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 883	The lens and sensor are in one package? That's crazy. I think it's a dumb idea. So you can't change the lens and sensor separately? Also, it looks like it was designed for the special forces.

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Ahab Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Arnold, Md. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 762	Ricoh has non-exsistant customer service, why should I want one?

11-09-2009, 02:20 PM	#4
Angevinn Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago, Ill. Posts: 204 Original Poster	It's an interesting design. I don't understand why Ricoh is coupling the lenses to the sensor. Sensor technology changes so quickly. Maybe they will release a K-mount/sensor adapter in the future.

11-09-2009, 02:21 PM	#5
kevinschoenmakers Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shanghai Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,509	This is daring and I'm curious to see how it'll be recieved by Joe Consumer. I'm a little disappointed they didn't go all the way and make the sensor and lenses detachable from eachother. That would have been some revolution.

11-09-2009, 02:38 PM	#6
ytterbium Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,076	But they can make a sensor cartridge which supports detachable lenses at any time. Still it looks too much like a mock up camera, even more - a 3d render instead of real model, so one cant be sure.

11-09-2009, 04:16 PM	#7
Prognathous Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 102	Originally posted by Ahab Ricoh has non-exsistant customer service, why should I want one? Maybe you shouldn't, but those who want its unique capabilities would go for it and settle for less than the quickest service. Not that Ricoh seem to care that much about markets other than the Japanese one. Oh, and by the way, Ricoh's US service is handled by C.R.I.S Camera. Guess what? they're located in Arizona, just a couple of hours drive from where you live Originally posted by Angevinn It's an interesting design. I don't understand why Ricoh is coupling the lenses to the sensor. Sensor technology changes so quickly. Maybe they will release a K-mount/sensor adapter in the future. Simple. They can match the lens and the sensor. Use a small-sensor for zoom lenses and maintain pocketability (unlike M43), and use a larger APS-C sensor with lenses that are used in situations where size can be compromised (e.g. tele and macro lenses). Originally posted by ytterbium But they can make a sensor cartridge which supports detachable lenses at any time. Still it looks too much like a mock up camera, even more - a 3d render instead of real model, so one cant be sure. The pictures may be of a mock up, but the camera is very real. See this video: Link to 'Which' Ricoh Video: Ricoh Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review Prog.

11-09-2009, 07:15 PM	#8
Aristophanes Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rankin Inlet, Nunavut Photos: Albums Posts: 3,948	One word: FUGLY

11-09-2009, 07:20 PM	#9
*isteve Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 1,187	Thats definately a standard digicam sensor camera - not 4/3 or APSC IMO. For Ricoh this makes perfect sense. Instead of having to choose a GRD3 or GX300 you can have both - and upgrade your camera every few years when a new module comes out for less money than upgrading the whole camera (which has stayed pretty much the same for years anyway). As a Gx100 owner, I still have no reason to change. I love the darn thing.

11-09-2009, 07:33 PM	#10
KungPOW Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vancouver, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,699	Pentax had shown a camera system a few yeasr back (2006 maybe?) that used sensor/lens combos. So, now we wait and see if Ricoh offers a K mount sensor? here is a photo of the beast: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina2006/Pentax/IMG_0410.jpg

11-09-2009, 07:52 PM	#11
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	It may be interesting to Ricoh folks, but I don't exactly see this as a game changer. Just a slightly different take on a static theme.

11-09-2009, 08:19 PM	#12
SuperAkuma Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 445	here is a video that I found over at dp Ricoh GXR? earthrise photography

11-09-2009, 08:46 PM	#13
KungPOW Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vancouver, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,699	So not only will the body be obsolete in 5 years but so will the lenses! Woot +1 for a consumer's dream system!

11-10-2009, 12:27 AM	#15
lurchlarson Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Oregon, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 681	Innovative experiment. I don't know that the average consumer would go for this. Might be a little to far forward. It'll also make changing the lens a pain when you're in the field. Slow you down quite a bit.