K-Mount Adapter Picture for NX10

falconeye · 01-20-2010, 02:10 AM

Originally posted by juu

But what I tried to say is that perhaps there just aren't enough of them for Samsung to be concerned in case there are significant technical issues concerning AF on the k-mount adapter.

You are probably right here. Samsung is likely most concerned to offer the NX as an upgrade path to current users of Samsung P&S. More even than to users of GX.

On the other hand, they may fear a bad voice from customers who invested into their GX system. To some degree, the NX is about protecting a future investment. It is a system camera with a new mount.

The degree which Samsung protects the investment of GX customers to is a bold statement about the future of the NX system. In either direction.

froeschle · 01-20-2010, 07:26 AM

Quote:

I wounder how the Samsung DSLR users would react if the NX10 cannot use their k mount lenses.

I am expecting the adaptor to work 100% with SDM, screwdrive, and aperture. [...]

According to Digital cameras, Digital camcorders | Samsung camera the following "Samsung" lenses exist for the GX series:
# SAMSUNG 18~55MM
# SAMSUNG 18~250MM
# D-XENOGON 35MM
# D-XENON 100MM MACRO
# SAMSUNG 16~45MM
# D-XENON 12~24MM
# D-XENOGON 10~17MM
# D-XENON 50~200MM
Not one offers SDM. So, full functionality of all Samsung GX lenses would be assured even without SDM support. Nevertheless, I agree that

Quote:

[...] they may fear a bad voice from customers who invested into their GX system. To some degree, the NX is about protecting a future investment. It is a system camera with a new mount.

The degree which Samsung protects the investment of GX customers to is a bold statement about the future of the NX system. In either direction.

Samsungian · 01-20-2010, 07:41 AM

Most of those Samsung Logo'd lenses have no aperture ring at lensmount.

So there needs to be a way to adjust the lens aperture or you loose a very necessary lens function when using adapted mount lenses.

Originally posted by froeschle

According to Digital cameras, Digital camcorders | Samsung camera the following "Samsung" lenses exist for the GX series:
# SAMSUNG 18~55MM
# SAMSUNG 18~250MM
# D-XENOGON 35MM
# D-XENON 100MM MACRO
# SAMSUNG 16~45MM
# D-XENON 12~24MM
# D-XENOGON 10~17MM
# D-XENON 50~200MM
Not one offers SDM. So, full functionality of all Samsung GX lenses would be assured even without SDM support. Nevertheless, I agree that

froeschle · 01-26-2010, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Most of those Samsung Logo'd lenses have no aperture ring at lensmount.

So there needs to be a way to adjust the lens aperture or you loose a very necessary lens function when using adapted mount lenses.

Quote:

I am expecting the adaptor to work 100% with SDM, screwdrive, and aperture.

For clarification: Support of screwdrive and aperture would be enough. SDM, however, would in principle not be required for the Samsung Logo'd lenses.

But let's wait and see: :: samsung NX10 ::

The image of the K-mount adapter still features the "holes": Samsung Imaging | Smart Image Sharing

Edit: http://www.samsungimaging.co.kr/product/upload/onlinefeatures/nx10/kor/images/nx10_12_2.jpg
Is somebody able to translate the description?

Attached Images

Last edited by froeschle; 01-27-2010 at 05:33 AM. Reason: Image included

alexeyga · 01-26-2010, 01:39 PM

I'm somewhat puzzled as to why Samsung ventured into developping a new mount? They already were using the K-mount... there's a presumably "open" 4/3s mount already developped... why re-invent the wheel? Looks like a nice camera though, but I see no reason to buy one over the K-X if I was looking for a pocketable DSLR...

juu · 01-26-2010, 02:16 PM

alexeyga,

They cannot use the k-mount as making the distance between sensor and lens smaller is one of the main ideas behind EVIL.

And the micro 4/3 mounts aren't really that 'open'. They are 'open' only in name, but Olympus/Panasonic still want money to use them. There can also be strategic reasons not to join m43.

With that said, the advantages of the NX10 over K-x just aren't there, it isn't any smaller.

froeschle · 01-28-2010, 03:18 AM

human character recognition and google translate:

K-mount 번 한 (no. 1) 어댑터 (adapter)
K-mount 를 (the) 사용하는 (use)
삼성 (Samsung) / 펜탁스 (Pentax) 렌즈를 (lens)
메뉴 (menu) 일로 (days) 사용하실 수 었습니다 (was available)

sajah · 01-28-2010, 04:45 AM

Originally posted by froeschle

human character recognition and google translate:

K-mount 번 한 (no. 1) 어댑터 (adapter)
K-mount 를 (the) 사용하는 (use)
삼성 (Samsung) / 펜탁스 (Pentax) 렌즈를 (lens)
메뉴 (menu) 일로 (days) 사용하실 수 었습니다 (was available)

Human character recognition! Nice!

I happen to live in Korea for now and was forced to learn hangeul (the Korean characters) :ugh:

Correction:
변환 (conversion)
매뉴얼 + 로 (manual + ly)

and 사용하실 수 있습니다 (is usable)

So basically:

"K-Mount conversion adapter" <I think this is a title, not part of the sentence below>

"Samsung / Pentax lenses that are using K-Mount are usable manually"

01-20-2010, 07:41 AM	#18
Samsungian Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado USA Posts: 1,337	Most of those Samsung Logo'd lenses have no aperture ring at lensmount Most of those Samsung Logo'd lenses have no aperture ring at lensmount. So there needs to be a way to adjust the lens aperture or you loose a very necessary lens function when using adapted mount lenses. Originally posted by froeschle According to Digital cameras, Digital camcorders \| Samsung camera the following "Samsung" lenses exist for the GX series: # SAMSUNG 18~55MM # SAMSUNG 18~250MM # D-XENOGON 35MM # D-XENON 100MM MACRO # SAMSUNG 16~45MM # D-XENON 12~24MM # D-XENOGON 10~17MM # D-XENON 50~200MM Not one offers SDM. So, full functionality of all Samsung GX lenses would be assured even without SDM support. Nevertheless, I agree that

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01-20-2010, 02:10 AM	#16
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by juu But what I tried to say is that perhaps there just aren't enough of them for Samsung to be concerned in case there are significant technical issues concerning AF on the k-mount adapter. You are probably right here. Samsung is likely most concerned to offer the NX as an upgrade path to current users of Samsung P&S. More even than to users of GX. On the other hand, they may fear a bad voice from customers who invested into their GX system. To some degree, the NX is about protecting a future investment. It is a system camera with a new mount. The degree which Samsung protects the investment of GX customers to is a bold statement about the future of the NX system. In either direction.

01-20-2010, 07:26 AM	#17
froeschle Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 552	Quote: I wounder how the Samsung DSLR users would react if the NX10 cannot use their k mount lenses. I am expecting the adaptor to work 100% with SDM, screwdrive, and aperture. [...] According to Digital cameras, Digital camcorders \| Samsung camera the following "Samsung" lenses exist for the GX series: # SAMSUNG 18~55MM # SAMSUNG 18~250MM # D-XENOGON 35MM # D-XENON 100MM MACRO # SAMSUNG 16~45MM # D-XENON 12~24MM # D-XENOGON 10~17MM # D-XENON 50~200MM Not one offers SDM. So, full functionality of all Samsung GX lenses would be assured even without SDM support. Nevertheless, I agree that Quote: [...] they may fear a bad voice from customers who invested into their GX system. To some degree, the NX is about protecting a future investment. It is a system camera with a new mount. The degree which Samsung protects the investment of GX customers to is a bold statement about the future of the NX system. In either direction.

01-26-2010, 12:59 PM	#19
froeschle Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 552	Quote: Most of those Samsung Logo'd lenses have no aperture ring at lensmount. So there needs to be a way to adjust the lens aperture or you loose a very necessary lens function when using adapted mount lenses. Quote: I am expecting the adaptor to work 100% with SDM, screwdrive, and aperture. For clarification: Support of screwdrive and aperture would be enough. SDM, however, would in principle not be required for the Samsung Logo'd lenses. But let's wait and see: :: samsung NX10 :: The image of the K-mount adapter still features the "holes": Samsung Imaging \| Smart Image Sharing Edit: http://www.samsungimaging.co.kr/product/upload/onlinefeatures/nx10/kor/images/nx10_12_2.jpg Is somebody able to translate the description? Attached Images Last edited by froeschle; 01-27-2010 at 05:33 AM. Reason: Image included

01-26-2010, 01:39 PM	#20
alexeyga Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 838	I'm somewhat puzzled as to why Samsung ventured into developping a new mount? They already were using the K-mount... there's a presumably "open" 4/3s mount already developped... why re-invent the wheel? Looks like a nice camera though, but I see no reason to buy one over the K-X if I was looking for a pocketable DSLR...

01-26-2010, 02:16 PM	#21
juu Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 680	alexeyga, They cannot use the k-mount as making the distance between sensor and lens smaller is one of the main ideas behind EVIL. And the micro 4/3 mounts aren't really that 'open'. They are 'open' only in name, but Olympus/Panasonic still want money to use them. There can also be strategic reasons not to join m43. With that said, the advantages of the NX10 over K-x just aren't there, it isn't any smaller.

01-28-2010, 03:18 AM	#22
froeschle Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 552	human character recognition and google translate: K-mount 번 한 (no. 1) 어댑터 (adapter) K-mount 를 (the) 사용하는 (use) 삼성 (Samsung) / 펜탁스 (Pentax) 렌즈를 (lens) 메뉴 (menu) 일로 (days) 사용하실 수 었습니다 (was available)

01-28-2010, 04:45 AM	#23
sajah Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: South Korea Photos: Gallery Posts: 275	Originally posted by froeschle human character recognition and google translate: K-mount 번 한 (no. 1) 어댑터 (adapter) K-mount 를 (the) 사용하는 (use) 삼성 (Samsung) / 펜탁스 (Pentax) 렌즈를 (lens) 메뉴 (menu) 일로 (days) 사용하실 수 었습니다 (was available) Human character recognition! Nice! I happen to live in Korea for now and was forced to learn hangeul (the Korean characters) :ugh: Correction: 변환 (conversion) 매뉴얼 + 로 (manual + ly) and 사용하실 수 있습니다 (is usable) So basically: "K-Mount conversion adapter" <I think this is a title, not part of the sentence below> "Samsung / Pentax lenses that are using K-Mount are usable manually"