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12-08-2010, 10:49 PM - 1 Like   #151
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More cabin fever shots....

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QuoteOriginally posted by jsherman999 Quote
More cabin fever shots....
Genious!
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Genious!
Wouldn't go that far but it was fun, thx John.
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Excellent play on the light and shadows!!!

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I have enjoyed reading through this thread. There is a lot of experience and talent represented by the posters. Thank you for sharing.

I am pondering trying out a D700, but as that would require selling off quite a bit of my Pentax kit, I am waffling over the decision. Full frame advantages and all that look nice, but the real reason I am pondering a partial or full system switch is low light AF performance. I have pretty bad eyes, so manual focusing is not an option for me at all. I am fully reliant on AF. Too often with my K20D, I am trying to take shots of my children doing something picture worthy indoors, and by the time the K20D settles on focus 3-4 seconds later, the moment has passed. Although I like experimenting with many types of photography, these indoor (constantly moving) children shots are by far the most important to me. After that ramble I will finally get to my question.

Have any of you experienced D700 shooters had a chance to put the K-5 through it's paces for this type of shot? Is the K-5 low light AF performance closer to a K20D experience or a D700 experience?

Thanks for reading. The reason I chose to post here is because the other k-5 AF threads compare to other Pentax units. If this is too much of a thread hijack, I will happily delete and post in a different thread.
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Also, what is the nearest to an acceptable DA15 substitute for the Nikon FF system?
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Also, what is the nearest to an acceptable DA15 substitute for the Nikon FF system?
Nikkor AF-S 24mm F/1.4 G ED Nano

It's a bit more expensive though :ugh:
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I have enjoyed reading through this thread. There is a lot of experience and talent represented by the posters. Thank you for sharing.

I am pondering trying out a D700 ... but the real reason I am pondering a partial or full system switch is low light AF performance. I have pretty bad eyes, so manual focusing is not an option for me at all. I am fully reliant on AF. Too often with my K20D, I am trying to take shots of my children doing something picture worthy indoors, and by the time the K20D settles on focus 3-4 seconds later, the moment has passed. Although I like experimenting with many types of photography, these indoor (constantly moving) children shots are by far the most important to me. ...

Have any of you experienced D700 shooters had a chance to put the K-5 through it's paces for this type of shot? Is the K-5 low light AF performance closer to a K20D experience or a D700 experience?
I have not, but that would be an interesting comparison to make. I think deadwolfbones (Ben) still has both, maybe he'll weigh in.

FWIW, I bought my D700 for exactly the reason you give - low light af-lock on moving subjects (children, mostly, but any indoor situation really.) It's superb for this. If I didn't have to make these kind of shots all the time, my K20D would have been perfectly fine for pretty much anything else.

The only drawback to getting the D700 now is that a replacement might be announced in the Spring, but if you're like me, your subjects aren't going to stay the same age for you until you decide to pull the trigger on a new body. Plus, the D700 replacement (if there is one next year) will probably be $500 - $1000 more expensive than the D700 current price. You could also consider a used D700 ($1800 - $2000.)

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Also, what is the nearest to an acceptable DA15 substitute for the Nikon FF system?
I find the Nikon 20mm f/2.8 AF-D (Around $300 used) is a very good substitute. It's very nearly as sharp in the center at f/4, but the contrast goes to the DA 15ltd slightly. The DA 15 handles flare much better. The 20 f/2.8 is a pretty small lens, and makes a fairly portable WA combo with the D700. What really makes it attractive is that in aps-c terms, with regards to FOV it's a 13mm f/2.8 lens. (If you're looking at DOF-for-FOV equivalence, it's a 13mm f/1.9 (!) )

I have a few examples already in this thread, and those "more cabin fever shots" above were mostly taken with the 20 f/2.8. Here are a few more low-light examples:


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jsherman999, thank you for taking the time for the through reply. Yes, it seems many on the net are expecting a D700 replacement announcement in the next 4 or so months. I doubt I would spring for it though, due to cost. I suppose it could drive down the cost of used D700's though, and that would be helpful. But only Nikon knows the timing of that replacement, and like you said, the kids are as photogenic now as they will ever be.

And I do agree, for any well lighted subject that is not moving, the K20D is great.

From reading this thread it seems like, on the D700, you find the 50/1.8 and possibly the 20mm/2.8 the most useful for the type of shots we are discussing? Do you have a 35/2.0? Do you find it useful?

I have been keeping half an eye on fredmiranda.com to get a feel for pricing on a used D700. Is that the best place to be looking?

Thanks again for your time.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Bart Quote
Nikkor AF-S 24mm F/1.4 G ED Nano

It's a bit more expensive though :ugh:
Yikes, you aren't kidding! One place wanted $3000 for one used.
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Yikes, you aren't kidding! One place wanted $3000 for one used.
Yes the 24mm f/1.4G is expensive but the price of a new one isn't $3000, it's ONLY $2000.
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Haven't posted in a while - so decided to share a few from a shoot this past weekend.

All D700 with Sigma 50/1.4:
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Haven't posted in a while - so decided to share a few from a shoot this past weekend.

All D700 with Sigma 50/1.4:
Coff, those are all wonderful, the captures, the processing. Thanks for showing these.
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The following were taken in a completely dark room with the only light sources being a string of blue LED and multicolored regular (non-LED) christmas lights.

It's the first time I've ever really shot anything more than a test snap when minimal colored lights was the only lighting, and about the only time I've shot with a lot of LED light - and its weird.

You get the typical DR challenges you get with a single light source in a dark room (blown highlights + black shadows,) but the 'blown' parts are all in the blue channel, and the LR 'recovery' slider doesn't work on that frequency. Reducing luminance and playing with it further can bring some detail back, but the LED color begins to look even stranger then, even less real - so these (believe it or not) are presented with very little PP, beyond a tad of NR and some pulling back of a magenta channel, which held some noise, (and a few with a B&W treatment) :


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f/4.5 ISO 3600


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(Previous shot, color/sat untouched, some shadow lifting)


f/2.8 ISO 4000


f/2 ISO 6400
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With re: the K5 vs D700

Too be quite honest I haven't seen any pics on this forum (unlike the K10D, 200D days) that can even compare to the pics showcased here.

It was on this forum and the shots displayed from K10d that decided it for me to become a Pentax user.

Since K7/K5 I have seen nothing spectacular that wanted me to rush out and buy the camera.

Through these D700 shots it would make me convert to that camera over a K5'

Having also used a 5D MK11 "with it's ancient autofocus" and having seen the results - I can vouch for it's ability in the IQ dept

Both these dslrs are very close brand new to the cost of a K5

Both have tons of lenses to choose from
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