Some Full-frame shots & thoughts

azimuthal · 12-28-2010, 03:34 PM

I'm on the fence on whether to go Sony or Nikon. I'm planning to get a APS-C body and a full frame body. They must both be same mount. I really love the idea of using FF lenses on FF AND APS-C.

A55+A850 seems nice. Especially with the ZEISS 135 / 85 primes. Low light performance seems less than stellar though. Brand longetivity could be an issue. I'm not sure about the strength of AF.

The nikon D7K + D700 seems like a good matchup as well, except for the d700's 12 MP sensor. Low light performance would be amazing but one of the reasons I want full frame is increased resolution. Stellar AF on the nikon as well.

I'm in a unique position where I can't really try out any of these models, so while comparing them never seems to pick a good winner, it's all I can really do. The d700 examples posted in this thread are remarkable, the low light ones are especially impressive and show the strength of that sensor. I'm also able to hold out for a while, my next big photo opportunity will happen in march.

ll_coffee_lP · 12-28-2010, 05:18 PM

I have no experience with the Sony cams, but I do Nikon.

If you are looking at D7000 / D700 combo don't forget to check out the D300(s). D300(s) is a great camera at about the same price as D7000, but uses the same battery as D700, grip, and the menus and controls are the same on both cameras as well.

Not looking to sway, just letting you know.

c[_]

jsherman999 · 01-05-2011, 10:23 PM

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D700 + Tamron 28-75:

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20 f2/8D:

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85 f/1.8D wide-open:

deadwolfbones · 01-06-2011, 10:42 AM

D700 + Nikon 24-70/2.8 (now sold)

D700 + Tamron 28-75/2.8

D700 + Nikon 50/1.8D

eddie1960 · 01-06-2011, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by Digitalis

Having received a Leica M9 for my birthday, and having being told about a Leica M to Pentax K mount adapter made by novoflex it looks like I'll be doing a few lens comparisons with Pentax lenses and their Leica counterparts. I have ordered the adapter.

lenses I'll be testing

Pentax FA31mm f/1.8 Limited Vs Leica summilix and summicron 35mm f/1.4/f/2 lenses both Asph and pre-Asph versions
Pentax 43mm f/1.9 Limited in Leica M mount Vs Voigtlander 40mm f/1.4
Pentax 50mm f/1.2 Vs Leica noctilux 50mm f/1.0, Konica Hexanon 50mm f/1.2
Pentax FA 77mm f/1.8 limited Vs Leica summilux 77mm f/1.4

though working with the pentax lenses will be tricky, because there won't be any range-finder coupling.

Nice birthday present wow

the 43 is available in leica screw mount mount if you can find one (apparently though the design and optics are pentax the body was made by Cosina. Another good argument for them pairing with cosina on an Evil/Rf

jsherman999 · 01-06-2011, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by deadwolfbones

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EXCELLENT series, thanks for showing those!

deadwolfbones · 01-06-2011, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by jsherman999

EXCELLENT series, thanks for showing those!

Thanks as always, Jay.

ll_coffee_lP · 01-06-2011, 08:11 PM

Nice images guys..., very nice!

c[_]

ChatMechant · 01-07-2011, 05:10 PM

ok. could you guys please post some mediocre photos?

i'd like to stop feeling like i need a $2500 camera. i need some high iso noise, here. and stop with the shooting wide open, too....

**apisto** · 01-08-2011, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by ChatMechant

ok. could you guys please post some mediocre photos?

i'd like to stop feeling like i need a $2500 camera. i need some high iso noise, here. and stop with the shooting wide open, too....

Okay, here is the cure. Problem is, there are some quite talented photographers in this thread. I will bring the thread back down to earth.

Nothing special, just one of my first shots with my new D700. Same shot, different post processing.

85mm/1.8:

EDIT (1/13/2011):See I really can kill a thread!

jsherman999 · 01-21-2011, 10:40 PM

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These were taken with the $199 35 f/1.8G (an APS-C/DX lens,) on the D700:

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f/2.2

f/1.8

f/2.2 ISO 4500, f/1.8

f/2.8, f/2.2

f/2.5

Aegon · 01-22-2011, 07:58 AM

Hi JSherman,

Are those pictures cropped? I see some vignetting, which appears pleasing rather than stifling, so I'm unsure as to whether those were cropped by the camera to DX, or cropped by a program to something around DX size, or if those were captured FX?

If the 1-year old isn't already walking, he will be soon. Then you'll have your hands full.

jsherman999 · 01-22-2011, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by Aegon

Hi JSherman,

Are those pictures cropped? I see some vignetting, which appears pleasing rather than stifling, so I'm unsure as to whether those were cropped by the camera to DX, or cropped by a program to something around DX size, or if those were captured FX?

If the 1-year old isn't already walking, he will be soon. Then you'll have your hands full.

All are shot in FX mode, no cropping, no lens correction. (Lightroom has a pre-loaded profile for the 35 1.8G - if I enable that, it mitigates some of the vignetting - but it's not being used in these shots.)

Where you really see vignetting with this lens on the D700 is stopped down, infinity shots - black corners. For closer-in shots, it's fully usabe, and a very sharp choice (sharper than the older, FF 35 f/2D.)

And yes, he's trying to walk all the time, and he's very close!

jsherman999 · 01-22-2011, 11:44 PM

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Just a couple fun snaps from this evening and yesterday:

85mm

20mm

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jsherman999 · 01-28-2011, 12:05 AM

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Another quick MOA trip today...

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01-05-2011, 10:23 PM	#183
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237 Original Poster	Tamron 28-75, 20 2.8D, 85 1.8D . D700 + Tamron 28-75: . 20 f2/8D: . 85 f/1.8D wide-open:

01-08-2011, 04:06 PM	#190
apisto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 588	Originally posted by ChatMechant ok. could you guys please post some mediocre photos? i'd like to stop feeling like i need a $2500 camera. i need some high iso noise, here. and stop with the shooting wide open, too.... Okay, here is the cure. Problem is, there are some quite talented photographers in this thread. I will bring the thread back down to earth. Nothing special, just one of my first shots with my new D700. Same shot, different post processing. 85mm/1.8: EDIT (1/13/2011):See I really can kill a thread! Last edited by apisto; 01-13-2011 at 03:22 PM.

01-22-2011, 11:44 PM	#194
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237 Original Poster	Nikon 20 f/2.8 & Nikon 85 1.8 . Just a couple fun snaps from this evening and yesterday: 85mm 20mm .

01-28-2011, 12:05 AM	#195
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237 Original Poster	20mm f/2.8 . Another quick MOA trip today... .

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12-28-2010, 03:34 PM	#181
azimuthal Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: reno Posts: 70	I'm on the fence on whether to go Sony or Nikon. I'm planning to get a APS-C body and a full frame body. They must both be same mount. I really love the idea of using FF lenses on FF AND APS-C. A55+A850 seems nice. Especially with the ZEISS 135 / 85 primes. Low light performance seems less than stellar though. Brand longetivity could be an issue. I'm not sure about the strength of AF. The nikon D7K + D700 seems like a good matchup as well, except for the d700's 12 MP sensor. Low light performance would be amazing but one of the reasons I want full frame is increased resolution. Stellar AF on the nikon as well. I'm in a unique position where I can't really try out any of these models, so while comparing them never seems to pick a good winner, it's all I can really do. The d700 examples posted in this thread are remarkable, the low light ones are especially impressive and show the strength of that sensor. I'm also able to hold out for a while, my next big photo opportunity will happen in march.

12-28-2010, 05:18 PM	#182
ll_coffee_lP Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,972	I have no experience with the Sony cams, but I do Nikon. If you are looking at D7000 / D700 combo don't forget to check out the D300(s). D300(s) is a great camera at about the same price as D7000, but uses the same battery as D700, grip, and the menus and controls are the same on both cameras as well. Not looking to sway, just letting you know. c[_]

01-06-2011, 10:42 AM	#184
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450	D700 + Nikon 24-70/2.8 (now sold) D700 + Tamron 28-75/2.8 D700 + Nikon 50/1.8D

01-06-2011, 10:58 AM	#185
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by Digitalis Having received a Leica M9 for my birthday, and having being told about a Leica M to Pentax K mount adapter made by novoflex it looks like I'll be doing a few lens comparisons with Pentax lenses and their Leica counterparts. I have ordered the adapter. lenses I'll be testing Pentax FA31mm f/1.8 Limited Vs Leica summilix and summicron 35mm f/1.4/f/2 lenses both Asph and pre-Asph versions Pentax 43mm f/1.9 Limited in Leica M mount Vs Voigtlander 40mm f/1.4 Pentax 50mm f/1.2 Vs Leica noctilux 50mm f/1.0, Konica Hexanon 50mm f/1.2 Pentax FA 77mm f/1.8 limited Vs Leica summilux 77mm f/1.4 though working with the pentax lenses will be tricky, because there won't be any range-finder coupling. Nice birthday present wow the 43 is available in leica screw mount mount if you can find one (apparently though the design and optics are pentax the body was made by Cosina. Another good argument for them pairing with cosina on an Evil/Rf

01-06-2011, 04:32 PM	#186
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237 Original Poster	Originally posted by deadwolfbones ... EXCELLENT series, thanks for showing those!

01-06-2011, 04:57 PM	#187
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450	Originally posted by jsherman999 EXCELLENT series, thanks for showing those! Thanks as always, Jay.

01-06-2011, 08:11 PM	#188
ll_coffee_lP Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,972	Nice images guys..., very nice! c[_]

01-07-2011, 05:10 PM	#189
ChatMechant Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Matsuyama Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,284	ok. could you guys please post some mediocre photos? i'd like to stop feeling like i need a $2500 camera. i need some high iso noise, here. and stop with the shooting wide open, too....

01-21-2011, 10:40 PM	#191
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237 Original Poster	. These were taken with the $199 35 f/1.8G (an APS-C/DX lens,) on the D700: . f/2.2 f/1.8 f/2.2 ISO 4500, f/1.8 f/2.8, f/2.2 f/2.5

01-22-2011, 07:58 AM	#192
Aegon Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,416	Hi JSherman, Are those pictures cropped? I see some vignetting, which appears pleasing rather than stifling, so I'm unsure as to whether those were cropped by the camera to DX, or cropped by a program to something around DX size, or if those were captured FX? If the 1-year old isn't already walking, he will be soon. Then you'll have your hands full.

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01-22-2011, 09:35 AM	#193
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237 Original Poster	Originally posted by Aegon Hi JSherman, Are those pictures cropped? I see some vignetting, which appears pleasing rather than stifling, so I'm unsure as to whether those were cropped by the camera to DX, or cropped by a program to something around DX size, or if those were captured FX? If the 1-year old isn't already walking, he will be soon. Then you'll have your hands full. All are shot in FX mode, no cropping, no lens correction. (Lightroom has a pre-loaded profile for the 35 1.8G - if I enable that, it mitigates some of the vignetting - but it's not being used in these shots.) Where you really see vignetting with this lens on the D700 is stopped down, infinity shots - black corners. For closer-in shots, it's fully usabe, and a very sharp choice (sharper than the older, FF 35 f/2D.) And yes, he's trying to walk all the time, and he's very close!