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10-28-2010, 09:55 PM   #1
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New D90 user from K10D

Well, it was time to upgrade and I had a tough choice to make...continue investing in Pentax or try Nikon.

K5 looks appealing but the price tag was too high along with the lenses I wanted (50-135mm, DA 35mm Macro). The SDM on the 50-135mm was not very assuring either.

So I compromised...picked up a D90 with what I dub the three kings:
* Nikon 35mm 1.8
* Tokina 50-135mm
* Tokina 12-24mm


My most used lens on the K10D was the 16-45mm with most pictures on the wide-end. I decided to sacrifice a bit of range in the middle (24 ~50 mm) since it seems I like to shoot wide, and just picked up the Nikon 35mm for the middle. I was finding the 50mm FA 1.4 a bit too long during most occasions so I think this will work well. This does mean I likely won't ever carry the 12-24mm and 50-135mm together as the two combined are too heavy for a walking excursion, but the 35mm is light, metal mount, and faster than the DA 35 2.4.

For a camera (K10D) that's a few years older than the D90, the image quality is on par to the D90. The build quality of the K10D is much better though. The D90's battery cover, and SD cover are pretty flimsy and the grip is less curved.

There are nice Pentax touches I'll miss such as the intuitive mirror lockup on 2 sec release...the D90 buries it in the menus. Or the way the K10Dt can display a histogram and hotspots overlayed on the picture itself during image review. And of course the shake reduction and weather seal.

What was gained was faster AF, better ISO, and more affordable lenses. I probably wouldn't have switched if Tokina didn't make equivalent designs outside of the Pentax mount.

Hope it works out well...but so far, the D90 is already being sent to service for back-focusing. :-(


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10-29-2010, 05:24 PM   #2
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Looks like a nice kit. I'm sure you will be very pleased with it. Time to take some pics!!!

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10-29-2010, 06:02 PM   #3
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Please let us know how you like the Tokina 535.
Have you owned the Pentax DA* 50-135? If so, comparisons are in order.
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Nice looking kit! Interesting how you've ended up mainly with lenses available as both Pentax and Tokina (12-24 & 50-135)

Hope you enjoy it, I've played with a D90 before and it's a great piece of kit :-)

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QuoteOriginally posted by allegory Quote
Hope it works out well...but so far, the D90 is already being sent to service for back-focusing. :-(
This seems to be a very prevalent issue actually. Every D90 user I know of has issues with accurate focusing (be it FF or BF), and apparently its a common problem.
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QuoteOriginally posted by yeatzee Quote
This seems to be a very prevalent issue actually. Every D90 user I know of has issues with accurate focusing (be it FF or BF), and apparently its a common problem.
Been through 2X D300s-s (both BNIB) and 2X D90-s (one used and one BNIB), all were spot on.

For the rest it just a question of getting used to and taking the time to setup "My menu" which speed up things a lot if you need go digging menus...
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QuoteOriginally posted by alexeyga Quote
Been through 2X D300s-s (both BNIB) and 2X D90-s (one used and one BNIB), all were spot on.

For the rest it just a question of getting used to and taking the time to setup "My menu" which speed up things a lot if you need go digging menus...
Well thats good to hear
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I haven't owned the Pentax variant of the 50-135mm so I won't have much to compare to. The Tokina variant has a non-removable metal collar mount. The specifications also indicate it has rounded aperture blades. Comparing the weight against the Pentax specs, it's about 80 grams heavier IIRC. I was a bit worried about the screw drive speed but it's not bad at all. The build quality is excellent...feels very solid.

The Nikon 35mm 1.8 is a marvel...not sure how they stuffed a silent wave motor is such a light small thing for under $200.

Once the D90 gets back from service, I'll be sure to post some photos. It's a shame about the back focusing too because it's not old stock, but new stock from this year.

For now, here's a shot from the 35mm 1.8:




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QuoteOriginally posted by allegory Quote
I was a bit worried about the screw drive speed but it's not bad at all.
The fact that it's a screw-driven lens doesn't mean that it's a slow-focusing lens... Focusing speed is very lens specific although the same lens will focus faster on higher-end bodies like D300 or D3, just because these employ a stronger AF-motor. Back when i've sized down from D300s to D90, I was worried about it as well.... but the difference was barely noticeable... in normal shooting... Tracking fast action with the old screw-driven 300/4 and low-light focusing is a whole different story all together...
D90's focusing is still faster than any current Pentax body, so I'm sure you'll be happy by any standards...
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very nice kit! though i would've gotten the Tokina 11-16/2.8 instead of the 12-24/4, but that's just me
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QuoteOriginally posted by RolloR Quote
very nice kit! though i would've gotten the Tokina 11-16/2.8 instead of the 12-24/4, but that's just me
Just because it's 2.8 doesn't make it a better lens... 11-16 is short.... very short... 12-24 however is long enough to avoid switching lenses between landscaping and people shots... for some... like me.. this is more valuable than 2.8...
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QuoteOriginally posted by alexeyga Quote
Just because it's 2.8 doesn't make it a better lens... 11-16 is short.... very short... 12-24 however is long enough to avoid switching lenses between landscaping and people shots... for some... like me.. this is more valuable than 2.8...
That is, of course, if you're shooting 'scapes and not interiors.
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That is, of course, if you're shooting 'scapes and not interiors.
Well, in case of interiors Sigma 10-20 or Nikon 10-24 would make a lot more sense anyways...

I was also considering 11-16 for underwater photography, but after talking with some underwater photography geeks, it seems that both Tokina's 10-17 and 12-24 have the best reputation for this purpose....
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I can see why someone would prefer the 11-16 over the 12-24. For me personally, the decision was easy because the two lenses live in different post codes. The 12-24 is $300 used and the 11-16 is $500 used. I don't need that extra stop for my own UWA photography, so the choice was simple.

Both lenses have good reputations.
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I was referring to speed, not widest angle.
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