just switched to sony

buttons · 03-24-2011, 09:52 AM

I just started into photography last summer so by all means I am a noobie. I first got a K-X and then a K200d. I really wanted to stay pentax but they didnt have a camera inbetween the K-R and K-5 that i really really wanted. I looked at the K7 and k20d really hard, but in the end decided to go sony.

I bought a Sony A580 body with vertical grip, spare batteries, and 50mm F1.8 DT lens all brand new for $916 shipped. We wanted a camera that had excellent low light capabilities and good video.

My wife really loves this Sony, she doesnt understand ISO, apeture, depth of field, shutter speed. when i try to explain how that works it goes over her head. However she knows how to setup a shot better then me. -- between the two of us there is at least half a photographer :-) The sony is inituitive and the auto modes actually work quite well (though i avoid that stuff personally)

I liked the ergonomics of my K200d with vertical grip better, but i dont have a vertical grip for this sony yet.

Here is the first picture i shot with the camera. handheld, jpg straight out of camera then quality compressed by picasa down to 1mb. 50mm dt f1.8 lens at f7.1 1600iso

deadwolfbones · 03-24-2011, 09:55 AM

Congrats.

**Ahab** · 03-24-2011, 10:00 AM

Good for you, enjoy. Sorry but I'm not impressed.

buttons · 03-24-2011, 10:17 AM

yes, my first picture after unboxing my new camera wasnt artistic or anything special. However my K200d was non functional in the same room without a tripod. Pictures over 800 iso looked awful even with post processing. This was straight from the camera and looks good to me at 1600iso.

deadwolfbones · 03-24-2011, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by buttons

yes, my first picture after unboxing my new camera wasnt artistic or anything special. However my K200d was non functional in the same room without a tripod. Pictures over 800 iso looked awful even with post processing. This was straight from the camera and looks good to me at 1600iso.

The K200D is old tech. It's not surprising.

A K-r would have cost less and had as good or better ISO performance, but hey, it's your money.

Vylen · 03-24-2011, 01:40 PM

I guess Sony has improved some - when I was looking around for a DSLR, I was considering a Sony since they were cheap. But, back then (300 series?), the ISO performance even at 400 or 200 was pretty crappy. So I went with the K20D :P

rawr · 03-24-2011, 03:52 PM

A580 has the same sensor as the K5, by the look of the results on DXOMark:

DxOMark - Compare sensors

InlawBiker · 03-24-2011, 03:53 PM

The A580 looks like a pretty good camera to me, congrats.

JHD · 03-24-2011, 03:58 PM

I have a Kx and a K7 and I just picked up a NEX-5 and I'm extremely impressed. This will be my street camera. I'm looking forward to the Zeiss 24mm slated to come out this year.

Wheatfield · 03-24-2011, 10:37 PM

Is there a point to the OP's post?
Sounds like he has his forums confused and should be on sonyforums.com

Tommot1965 · 03-25-2011, 12:53 AM

probably needs moving to "non pentax" camera area .

personly I wouldnt buy a camera with sony written on it...just couldn't do it....not that I dont like sony...but its a TV company..canons almost as bad as they make Printers...Nikon at least have a Pentax pedigree...

LMAO...enjoy it mate..the DXO score looks the goods

chrisca70 · 03-25-2011, 12:59 AM

Congrats!
being able to capture great pictures requires a great photographer and when one needs to take a picture the best camera is the one you have in your hands...

(looks a bit boxy to me...)

Vylen · 03-25-2011, 01:30 AM

Originally posted by Tommot1965

probably needs moving to "non pentax" camera area .

personly I wouldnt buy a camera with sony written on it...just couldn't do it....not that I dont like sony...but its a TV company..canons almost as bad as they make Printers...Nikon at least have a Pentax pedigree...

LMAO...enjoy it mate..the DXO score looks the goods

Actually, Sony is a radio company

But, they now make excellent televisions... and seems like they make good cameras now... of which they probably will improve.

**Rondec** · 03-25-2011, 04:25 AM

As far as I can tell, there aren't any "bad" dSLRs out there right now (although the olympus e5 has fallen fairly fall off the pace). Camera bodies come and go, but glass is forever. Which of the upper end Sony lenses are you planning to put on this? The Sony Zeiss 24-70? 70-200 f2.8? 16-35 f2.8?

The lens prices are too high for me, personally, but I can understand if someone has the money wanting some of those lenses...

jolepp · 03-25-2011, 04:38 AM

Originally posted by Tommot1965

probably needs moving to "non pentax" camera area .
...

Aye

(moved).

03-24-2011, 09:52 AM	#1
buttons Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Grand Rapids Photos: Albums Posts: 193	just switched to sony I just started into photography last summer so by all means I am a noobie. I first got a K-X and then a K200d. I really wanted to stay pentax but they didnt have a camera inbetween the K-R and K-5 that i really really wanted. I looked at the K7 and k20d really hard, but in the end decided to go sony. I bought a Sony A580 body with vertical grip, spare batteries, and 50mm F1.8 DT lens all brand new for $916 shipped. We wanted a camera that had excellent low light capabilities and good video. My wife really loves this Sony, she doesnt understand ISO, apeture, depth of field, shutter speed. when i try to explain how that works it goes over her head. However she knows how to setup a shot better then me. -- between the two of us there is at least half a photographer :-) The sony is inituitive and the auto modes actually work quite well (though i avoid that stuff personally) I liked the ergonomics of my K200d with vertical grip better, but i dont have a vertical grip for this sony yet. Here is the first picture i shot with the camera. handheld, jpg straight out of camera then quality compressed by picasa down to 1mb. 50mm dt f1.8 lens at f7.1 1600iso

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03-24-2011, 09:55 AM	#2
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450	Congrats.

03-24-2011, 10:00 AM	#3
Ahab Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Arnold, Md. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 762	Good for you, enjoy. Sorry but I'm not impressed.

03-24-2011, 10:17 AM	#4
buttons Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Grand Rapids Photos: Albums Posts: 193 Original Poster	yes, my first picture after unboxing my new camera wasnt artistic or anything special. However my K200d was non functional in the same room without a tripod. Pictures over 800 iso looked awful even with post processing. This was straight from the camera and looks good to me at 1600iso.

03-24-2011, 10:24 AM	#5
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450	Originally posted by buttons yes, my first picture after unboxing my new camera wasnt artistic or anything special. However my K200d was non functional in the same room without a tripod. Pictures over 800 iso looked awful even with post processing. This was straight from the camera and looks good to me at 1600iso. The K200D is old tech. It's not surprising. A K-r would have cost less and had as good or better ISO performance, but hey, it's your money.

03-24-2011, 01:40 PM	#6
Vylen Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,262	I guess Sony has improved some - when I was looking around for a DSLR, I was considering a Sony since they were cheap. But, back then (300 series?), the ISO performance even at 400 or 200 was pretty crappy. So I went with the K20D :P

03-24-2011, 03:52 PM	#7
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	A580 has the same sensor as the K5, by the look of the results on DXOMark: DxOMark - Compare sensors

03-24-2011, 03:53 PM	#8
InlawBiker Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Seattle, WA Photos: Gallery Posts: 123	The A580 looks like a pretty good camera to me, congrats.

03-24-2011, 03:58 PM	#9
JHD Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,406	I have a Kx and a K7 and I just picked up a NEX-5 and I'm extremely impressed. This will be my street camera. I'm looking forward to the Zeiss 24mm slated to come out this year.

03-24-2011, 10:37 PM	#10
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,975	Is there a point to the OP's post? Sounds like he has his forums confused and should be on sonyforums.com

03-25-2011, 12:53 AM	#11
Tommot1965 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Perth Western Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,026	probably needs moving to "non pentax" camera area . personly I wouldnt buy a camera with sony written on it...just couldn't do it....not that I dont like sony...but its a TV company..canons almost as bad as they make Printers...Nikon at least have a Pentax pedigree... LMAO...enjoy it mate..the DXO score looks the goods

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03-25-2011, 12:59 AM	#12
chrisca70 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 81	Congrats! being able to capture great pictures requires a great photographer and when one needs to take a picture the best camera is the one you have in your hands... (looks a bit boxy to me...)

03-25-2011, 01:30 AM	#13
Vylen Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,262	Originally posted by Tommot1965 probably needs moving to "non pentax" camera area . personly I wouldnt buy a camera with sony written on it...just couldn't do it....not that I dont like sony...but its a TV company..canons almost as bad as they make Printers...Nikon at least have a Pentax pedigree... LMAO...enjoy it mate..the DXO score looks the goods Actually, Sony is a radio company But, they now make excellent televisions... and seems like they make good cameras now... of which they probably will improve.

03-25-2011, 04:25 AM	#14
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,650	As far as I can tell, there aren't any "bad" dSLRs out there right now (although the olympus e5 has fallen fairly fall off the pace). Camera bodies come and go, but glass is forever. Which of the upper end Sony lenses are you planning to put on this? The Sony Zeiss 24-70? 70-200 f2.8? 16-35 f2.8? The lens prices are too high for me, personally, but I can understand if someone has the money wanting some of those lenses...

03-25-2011, 04:38 AM	#15
jolepp Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Finland Photos: Albums Posts: 3,196	Originally posted by Tommot1965 probably needs moving to "non pentax" camera area . ... Aye (moved).