New mirrorless Fuji system announced for 2012

froeschle · 10-05-2011, 09:51 AM

Resolution and low noise will surpass a 35mm full size sensor

Last edited by froeschle; 10-05-2011 at 10:00 AM.

Clicker · 10-05-2011, 12:27 PM

That XS1 looks really compact?! isn't that the same sensor size as Nikon 1s?
NVM i found English info over at 1000 Noisy cams; it's a superzoom 26X backlit 1 2/3 CMOS, this just might be my superzoom replacement as i passed on my Canon SX30is and was waiting for the SX40HS but i really like the X100 so much i might go all Fuji for my P&S bag.

Waiting to see if the Q has irritating issues first.

kenafein · 10-05-2011, 03:30 PM

That is really disappointing. I would love to have seen this with an APS-C sized sensor. I guess that blows the chance of having an X100 like rangefinder with interchangeable lenses.

séamuis · 10-05-2011, 03:53 PM

X100 and X10 equals huge win, the XS-1, not so much. I think Fuji would have been much better off sticking to the same formula as the X100 and X10, in regards to the XS-1. I just can not see the XS-1 doing well. its very compact for its body design, and thats a plus, but I don’t see how its any better than an entry level digital SLR, such as a pentax K-r or nikon d5000, or canon rebel, etc. a body design along the lines of the other two X series with interchangeable lenses would have been a far smarter way to go, plain and simple. I think fuji really made a mistake with this one, and I fear that won’t do much to help fuji sell more X100 an X10’s.

Clicker · 10-05-2011, 05:44 PM

The fixed lens market segment including super zooms is a much bigger market than DSLRs with a much larger profit margin, Fujifilm is just expanding/diversifying in that segment for each own target / buyer(s).

ovim · 10-06-2011, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by kenafein

I guess that blows the chance of having an X100 like rangefinder with interchangeable lenses.

X-S1 is just a superzoom they introduced. I don't think they released any info on the interchangeable lens model yet? The X-??? model in this roadmap:

If it'll be in X100 style I'm interested...

froeschle · 10-06-2011, 07:18 AM

Mirrorless Rumors | Blog | Thom Hogans guess about the new Fuji sensor (+ X100 in Stock).

Quote:

[...] Fuji announced the launch of a new mirrorless and interchangeable lens system for Spring 2012. [...] One of my Asian sources told me the sensor is definitely bigger than APS-C [...]

Meanwhile Thom Hogan wrote: “[...] these things seem vaguely clear: (1) a new lens mount (i.e. not m4/3); (2) a larger than APS/DX sensor, but not as big as full frame/FX; (3) higher resolution and better noise handling than any existing FX sensor (which means more than 24mp and better than D3s); and (4) non-Bayer in nature.“

kenafein · 10-06-2011, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by ovim

X-S1 is just a superzoom they introduced. I don't think they released any info on the interchangeable lens model yet? The X-??? model in this roadmap:

If it'll be in X100 style I'm interested...

My mistake, i thought it was interchangeable. Not so bad then

I am still waiting on their interchangeable system.

froeschle · 10-07-2011, 12:44 AM

@FujiGuys say upcoming mirrorless will be "premium", not part of current/M43rds systems - 1001 Noisy Cameras

Quote:

[...] the new Fuji system will not be Micro Four Thirds and will not be a current mirrorless system, but will be "premium". More details will be revealed at CES 2012 which will take place in parallel with PMA/CliQ 2012 in Vegas during the second week of January. [...]

jsherman999 · 10-07-2011, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by froeschle

@FujiGuys say upcoming mirrorless will be "premium", not part of current/M43rds systems - 1001 Noisy Cameras

What the hell is that supposed to mean? A FF mirrorless from Fuji?

stanleyk · 10-08-2011, 04:26 AM

I don't think it needs to Full Frame to be premium but perhaps it will be. The X100 is a great camera. My K5 has been sitting the shelf collecting dust since I got it. If I had to guess I would look for something along the lines of X100 with a 28, 50, 85 equivalents. They probably aren't going to do big zooms. Sort of poor man's M9. There's a really good market for that. A lot of people (and I'm certainly not saying this the majority of camera owners) don't want to carry around a big DSLR and all the lenses. I think I read where Fuji had sold 70,000 X100's. Sure it's not Canon Rebel numbers but that's not the only way to make money and run a business. You can cater to specific markets and be successful.

I feel certain that if the new Fuji camera does 28, 35, 50, and 85 I'll be pre ordering based on my experience with the X100. At that point I would sell off the rest of my Pentax equipment.

On the other hand, I'm thrilled with the Ricoh purchase of Pentax. The GXR is the only camera I have that I like as much as the X100. That's a real photographers camera. Extremely well built too. They just need to get their EVF up the Olympus EVF 2 quality. The Olympus has an really good EVF.

pingflood · 10-08-2011, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by jsherman999

What the hell is that supposed to mean? A FF mirrorless from Fuji?

I am going to guess a 1.3x crop ala M8 to keep costs in line. Would be fun if Fuji starts cranking out some premium gear, back in the days they had some really great medium format rangefinders with fantastic optics.

Laurentiu Cristofor · 10-09-2011, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by kenafein

That is really disappointing. I would love to have seen this with an APS-C sized sensor. I guess that blows the chance of having an X100 like rangefinder with interchangeable lenses.

Fujifilm has announced the X-S1 high-end superzoom and confirmed its intention to build a mirrorless interchangeable lens camera.. Source.

Let's see what they come up with.

froeschle · 10-26-2011, 02:16 AM

Fijifilm Finepix X roadmap | Photo Rumors

Quote:

The Brazilian website ztop published this Fijifilm Finepix X roadmap. The new Fuji X mirrorless interchangeable lens camera is listed for February, 2012. Not clear if this is the announcement or release date.

Prototypes of the new camera are expected to be shown at the 2012 CES show in January.

einstrigger · 10-26-2011, 11:02 AM

Can't wait to see what Fuji has in store. If it's like an X100 with interchangeable lenses, sign me up.

10-05-2011, 09:51 AM	#1
froeschle Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 552	New mirrorless Fuji system announced for 2012 Resolution and low noise will surpass a 35mm full size sensor Last edited by froeschle; 10-05-2011 at 10:00 AM.

10-05-2011, 12:27 PM	#2
Clicker Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,241	That XS1 looks really compact?! isn't that the same sensor size as Nikon 1s? NVM i found English info over at 1000 Noisy cams; it's a superzoom 26X backlit 1 2/3 CMOS, this just might be my superzoom replacement as i passed on my Canon SX30is and was waiting for the SX40HS but i really like the X100 so much i might go all Fuji for my P&S bag. Waiting to see if the Q has irritating issues first. Last edited by Clicker; 10-05-2011 at 12:36 PM.

10-07-2011, 08:13 PM	#10
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237	'Premium'? Originally posted by froeschle @FujiGuys say upcoming mirrorless will be "premium", not part of current/M43rds systems - 1001 Noisy Cameras What the hell is that supposed to mean? A FF mirrorless from Fuji?

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10-05-2011, 03:30 PM	#3
kenafein Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Southern California Photos: Albums Posts: 4,082	That is really disappointing. I would love to have seen this with an APS-C sized sensor. I guess that blows the chance of having an X100 like rangefinder with interchangeable lenses.

10-05-2011, 03:53 PM	#4
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	X100 and X10 equals huge win, the XS-1, not so much. I think Fuji would have been much better off sticking to the same formula as the X100 and X10, in regards to the XS-1. I just can not see the XS-1 doing well. its very compact for its body design, and thats a plus, but I don’t see how its any better than an entry level digital SLR, such as a pentax K-r or nikon d5000, or canon rebel, etc. a body design along the lines of the other two X series with interchangeable lenses would have been a far smarter way to go, plain and simple. I think fuji really made a mistake with this one, and I fear that won’t do much to help fuji sell more X100 an X10’s.

10-05-2011, 05:44 PM	#5
Clicker Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,241	The fixed lens market segment including super zooms is a much bigger market than DSLRs with a much larger profit margin, Fujifilm is just expanding/diversifying in that segment for each own target / buyer(s).

10-06-2011, 01:05 AM	#6
ovim Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Tre, Finland Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,229	Originally posted by kenafein I guess that blows the chance of having an X100 like rangefinder with interchangeable lenses. X-S1 is just a superzoom they introduced. I don't think they released any info on the interchangeable lens model yet? The X-??? model in this roadmap: If it'll be in X100 style I'm interested...

10-06-2011, 07:18 AM	#7
froeschle Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 552 Original Poster	Mirrorless Rumors \| Blog \| Thom Hogans guess about the new Fuji sensor (+ X100 in Stock). Quote: [...] Fuji announced the launch of a new mirrorless and interchangeable lens system for Spring 2012. [...] One of my Asian sources told me the sensor is definitely bigger than APS-C [...] Meanwhile Thom Hogan wrote: “[...] these things seem vaguely clear: (1) a new lens mount (i.e. not m4/3); (2) a larger than APS/DX sensor, but not as big as full frame/FX; (3) higher resolution and better noise handling than any existing FX sensor (which means more than 24mp and better than D3s); and (4) non-Bayer in nature.“

10-06-2011, 08:12 AM	#8
kenafein Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Southern California Photos: Albums Posts: 4,082	Originally posted by ovim X-S1 is just a superzoom they introduced. I don't think they released any info on the interchangeable lens model yet? The X-??? model in this roadmap: If it'll be in X100 style I'm interested... My mistake, i thought it was interchangeable. Not so bad then I am still waiting on their interchangeable system.

10-07-2011, 12:44 AM	#9
froeschle Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 552 Original Poster	@FujiGuys say upcoming mirrorless will be "premium", not part of current/M43rds systems - 1001 Noisy Cameras Quote: [...] the new Fuji system will not be Micro Four Thirds and will not be a current mirrorless system, but will be "premium". More details will be revealed at CES 2012 which will take place in parallel with PMA/CliQ 2012 in Vegas during the second week of January. [...]

10-08-2011, 04:26 AM	#11
stanleyk Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Taylor, Texas Posts: 1,018	I don't think it needs to Full Frame to be premium but perhaps it will be. The X100 is a great camera. My K5 has been sitting the shelf collecting dust since I got it. If I had to guess I would look for something along the lines of X100 with a 28, 50, 85 equivalents. They probably aren't going to do big zooms. Sort of poor man's M9. There's a really good market for that. A lot of people (and I'm certainly not saying this the majority of camera owners) don't want to carry around a big DSLR and all the lenses. I think I read where Fuji had sold 70,000 X100's. Sure it's not Canon Rebel numbers but that's not the only way to make money and run a business. You can cater to specific markets and be successful. I feel certain that if the new Fuji camera does 28, 35, 50, and 85 I'll be pre ordering based on my experience with the X100. At that point I would sell off the rest of my Pentax equipment. On the other hand, I'm thrilled with the Ricoh purchase of Pentax. The GXR is the only camera I have that I like as much as the X100. That's a real photographers camera. Extremely well built too. They just need to get their EVF up the Olympus EVF 2 quality. The Olympus has an really good EVF.

10-08-2011, 11:59 PM	#12
pingflood Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Borås, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,169	Originally posted by jsherman999 What the hell is that supposed to mean? A FF mirrorless from Fuji? I am going to guess a 1.3x crop ala M8 to keep costs in line. Would be fun if Fuji starts cranking out some premium gear, back in the days they had some really great medium format rangefinders with fantastic optics.

10-09-2011, 10:32 PM	#13
Laurentiu Cristofor Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: WA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,055	Originally posted by kenafein That is really disappointing. I would love to have seen this with an APS-C sized sensor. I guess that blows the chance of having an X100 like rangefinder with interchangeable lenses. Fujifilm has announced the X-S1 high-end superzoom and confirmed its intention to build a mirrorless interchangeable lens camera.. Source. Let's see what they come up with.

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10-26-2011, 02:16 AM	#14
froeschle Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 552 Original Poster	Fijifilm Finepix X roadmap \| Photo Rumors Quote: The Brazilian website ztop published this Fijifilm Finepix X roadmap. The new Fuji X mirrorless interchangeable lens camera is listed for February, 2012. Not clear if this is the announcement or release date. Prototypes of the new camera are expected to be shown at the 2012 CES show in January.

10-26-2011, 11:02 AM	#15
einstrigger Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 728	Can't wait to see what Fuji has in store. If it's like an X100 with interchangeable lenses, sign me up.