Micro Four Thirds Club

rob1234 · 09-16-2017, 03:42 AM

Pany 12-32 is not at all bad, sharp in the centre but weaker in the corners; best at about f/4 or so. It's main forte however is that it is tiny!

Here's a poor technical example, but I like it anyway:

E-M5
Oly 12-32
Some free camera shake!

Oly 7-14/2.8 is undoubtedly great, but very big for m43. Maybe the 9-18 is the sweet spot for size/IQ/width?

PS Pany 7-14/4 is quite a bit smaller, but has a reputation for 'purple blob syndrome' on Olympus bodies...

**Clarkey** · 09-16-2017, 04:39 AM

Originally posted by Fcsnt54

Dont forget the oly 7-14. Ive heard good things about that lens. The pany 12-32 is good for a cheap lens and i feel is better then the 14-42 by olympus

+1 on the Panny 12-32 for cheap. Oly 9-18 is also not bad. If you like primes, there's great work on this thread from the 12mm F2 Oly. The rokinon glass is also an option.

rob1234 · 09-16-2017, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by Clarkey

+1 on the Panny 12-32 for cheap. Oly 9-18 is also not bad. If you like primes, there's great work on this thread from the 12mm F2 Oly. The rokinon glass is also an option.

Heard good things about the Rokinon 10mm, and you could get it in K mount and mount it on your K-1 (in APS-C mode)?

I'd also like to try out the SLR Magic 8mm and Laowa 7.5mm...

northcoastgreg · 09-16-2017, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by repaap

so small 10 or 12 mm. would be nice. is there any of them?

There are at least four small, lightweight AF options: the aforementioned Panny 12-32, Oly 9-18, and Oly 12 f2, plus the Panny 12-60 f3.5-5.6. The Oly 12 is the best of the bunch, but pricey, followed by the Pany 12-60, the Oly 9-18, and the Pany 12-32. My top recommendation would be the Panny 12-60, because it's currently the best of the compact zooms and it's weather sealed, so it fits well with the E-M5ii.

repaap · 09-16-2017, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by rob1234

Pany 12-32 is not at all bad, sharp in the centre but weaker in the corners; best at about f/4 or so. It's main forte however is that it is tiny!

Here's a poor technical example, but I like it anyway:

E-M5
Oly 12-32
Some free camera shake!

Oly 7-14/2.8 is undoubtedly great, but very big for m43. Maybe the 9-18 is the sweet spot for size/IQ/width?

PS Pany 7-14/4 is quite a bit smaller, but has a reputation for 'purple blob syndrome' on Olympus bodies...

Originally posted by Clarkey

+1 on the Panny 12-32 for cheap. Oly 9-18 is also not bad. If you like primes, there's great work on this thread from the 12mm F2 Oly. The rokinon glass is also an option.

Originally posted by rob1234

Heard good things about the Rokinon 10mm, and you could get it in K mount and mount it on your K-1 (in APS-C mode)?

I'd also like to try out the SLR Magic 8mm and Laowa 7.5mm...

Originally posted by northcoastgreg

There are at least four small, lightweight AF options: the aforementioned Panny 12-32, Oly 9-18, and Oly 12 f2, plus the Panny 12-60 f3.5-5.6. The Oly 12 is the best of the bunch, but pricey, followed by the Pany 12-60, the Oly 9-18, and the Pany 12-32. My top recommendation would be the Panny 12-60, because it's currently the best of the compact zooms and it's weather sealed, so it fits well with the E-M5ii.

Thanks for good recommends. Size is something to be considered. I do like size of this 12-42, but somehow quality is underwhelming, and it could be little wider. I like 20 mm on FF. Actually my most used lens is 20-35...it is quite big thou. So maybe that 9-18 would actually be great. I do like primes too. So will compare it to that rokinon. It might be fun with my K-3 too.. don't want to put too much money to this thou..just have compact nice quality fun machine.

Michi Joel · 09-16-2017, 12:04 PM - **2 Likes**

LX100

repaap · 09-16-2017, 01:59 PM

Great shots with LX!

Here is couple fom my E-M5II

with 12-42 hand held

(stitch)

and couple with my DA*55

well image quality is not even close to my K-1 or even K-3...but it is small, and actually it was fun to go around. i also tried my M 75-150 yesterday. So different perspective, and I know that I could just crop it from my K-1 but this seems to be different thing. EVF takes some time to get used to. But I think that with nice little lens it will be a lot of fun, maybe even some small primes at some point, who knows.

Last edited by repaap; 09-16-2017 at 02:06 PM.

**Clarkey** · 09-16-2017, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by northcoastgreg

There are at least four small, lightweight AF options: the aforementioned Panny 12-32, Oly 9-18, and Oly 12 f2, plus the Panny 12-60 f3.5-5.6. The Oly 12 is the best of the bunch, but pricey, followed by the Pany 12-60, the Oly 9-18, and the Pany 12-32. My top recommendation would be the Panny 12-60, because it's currently the best of the compact zooms and it's weather sealed, so it fits well with the E-M5ii.

Thanks for that - the Panny 12-60 3.5-5.6? I have been considering trading either my GM1 or GM1 for either the G85 or E-M5ii with that lens as a compact WR travel solution (when actually backpacking).

**Clarkey** · 09-16-2017, 05:54 PM

A couple from today. First with the Oly 45mm, second with the 12-32mm.

Rock Haul by Aaron, on Flickr

Underhang by Aaron, on Flickr

surfar · 09-16-2017, 06:12 PM

Surfs flat there today!

**Clarkey** · 09-16-2017, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by surfar

Surfs flat there today!

The odd ripple from a passing jetski, and waterski boats..... Complete with pumping music.

Sometimes pictures are like silence.

repaap · 09-17-2017, 02:27 PM - **1 Like**

Here is couple more with my new toy.
one with M75-150

and two with 'kit lens'12-42

northcoastgreg · 09-18-2017, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by Clarkey

Thanks for that - the Panny 12-60 3.5-5.6? I have been considering trading either my GM1 or GM1 for either the G85 or E-M5ii with that lens as a compact WR travel solution (when actually backpacking).

I've been looking at quite a few images shot with the Panny 12-60 3.5-5.6 on Flickr and have been impressed. I suspect it's now the best of the compact variable aperture zoom lenses and yes, it would make an excellent companion for either the GX85 or E-M5ii for outdoor/backpacking work.

From another fine compact Panny zoom, the 45-175:

[COLOR="Silver"]

**Clarkey** · 09-19-2017, 07:06 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by northcoastgreg

I've been looking at quite a few images shot with the Panny 12-60 3.5-5.6 on Flickr and have been impressed. I suspect it's now the best of the compact variable aperture zoom lenses and yes, it would make an excellent companion for either the GX85 or E-M5ii for outdoor/backpacking work.

From another fine compact Panny zoom, the 45-175:

[COLOR="Silver"]

Cheers - that lens is also on my list at some point. One from the slow (but oh, so compact) 35-100mm:

Three's no crowd by Aaron, on Flickr

redox61 · 09-20-2017, 11:38 PM

Comparison of some micro 4/3 and k-mount lenses (Olympus EM-10 and Pentax K-70 cameras)

09-18-2017, 06:37 PM	#1948
northcoastgreg Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Northern Michigan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,174	Originally posted by Clarkey Thanks for that - the Panny 12-60 3.5-5.6? I have been considering trading either my GM1 or GM1 for either the G85 or E-M5ii with that lens as a compact WR travel solution (when actually backpacking). I've been looking at quite a few images shot with the Panny 12-60 3.5-5.6 on Flickr and have been impressed. I suspect it's now the best of the compact variable aperture zoom lenses and yes, it would make an excellent companion for either the GX85 or E-M5ii for outdoor/backpacking work. From another fine compact Panny zoom, the 45-175: [COLOR="Silver"] Last edited by northcoastgreg; 09-18-2017 at 06:44 PM.

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09-16-2017, 03:42 AM	#1936
rob1234 Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Wiltshire/Hampshire Photos: Albums Posts: 1,760	Pany 12-32 is not at all bad, sharp in the centre but weaker in the corners; best at about f/4 or so. It's main forte however is that it is tiny! Here's a poor technical example, but I like it anyway: E-M5 Oly 12-32 Some free camera shake! Oly 7-14/2.8 is undoubtedly great, but very big for m43. Maybe the 9-18 is the sweet spot for size/IQ/width? PS Pany 7-14/4 is quite a bit smaller, but has a reputation for 'purple blob syndrome' on Olympus bodies...

09-16-2017, 04:39 AM	#1937
Clarkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,456	Originally posted by Fcsnt54 Dont forget the oly 7-14. Ive heard good things about that lens. The pany 12-32 is good for a cheap lens and i feel is better then the 14-42 by olympus +1 on the Panny 12-32 for cheap. Oly 9-18 is also not bad. If you like primes, there's great work on this thread from the 12mm F2 Oly. The rokinon glass is also an option.

09-16-2017, 08:14 AM	#1938
rob1234 Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Wiltshire/Hampshire Photos: Albums Posts: 1,760	Originally posted by Clarkey +1 on the Panny 12-32 for cheap. Oly 9-18 is also not bad. If you like primes, there's great work on this thread from the 12mm F2 Oly. The rokinon glass is also an option. Heard good things about the Rokinon 10mm, and you could get it in K mount and mount it on your K-1 (in APS-C mode)? I'd also like to try out the SLR Magic 8mm and Laowa 7.5mm...

09-16-2017, 09:47 AM	#1939
northcoastgreg Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Northern Michigan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,174	Originally posted by repaap so small 10 or 12 mm. would be nice. is there any of them? There are at least four small, lightweight AF options: the aforementioned Panny 12-32, Oly 9-18, and Oly 12 f2, plus the Panny 12-60 f3.5-5.6. The Oly 12 is the best of the bunch, but pricey, followed by the Pany 12-60, the Oly 9-18, and the Pany 12-32. My top recommendation would be the Panny 12-60, because it's currently the best of the compact zooms and it's weather sealed, so it fits well with the E-M5ii.

09-16-2017, 10:21 AM	#1940
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Originally posted by rob1234 Pany 12-32 is not at all bad, sharp in the centre but weaker in the corners; best at about f/4 or so. It's main forte however is that it is tiny! Here's a poor technical example, but I like it anyway: E-M5 Oly 12-32 Some free camera shake! Oly 7-14/2.8 is undoubtedly great, but very big for m43. Maybe the 9-18 is the sweet spot for size/IQ/width? PS Pany 7-14/4 is quite a bit smaller, but has a reputation for 'purple blob syndrome' on Olympus bodies... Originally posted by Clarkey +1 on the Panny 12-32 for cheap. Oly 9-18 is also not bad. If you like primes, there's great work on this thread from the 12mm F2 Oly. The rokinon glass is also an option. Originally posted by rob1234 Heard good things about the Rokinon 10mm, and you could get it in K mount and mount it on your K-1 (in APS-C mode)? I'd also like to try out the SLR Magic 8mm and Laowa 7.5mm... Originally posted by northcoastgreg There are at least four small, lightweight AF options: the aforementioned Panny 12-32, Oly 9-18, and Oly 12 f2, plus the Panny 12-60 f3.5-5.6. The Oly 12 is the best of the bunch, but pricey, followed by the Pany 12-60, the Oly 9-18, and the Pany 12-32. My top recommendation would be the Panny 12-60, because it's currently the best of the compact zooms and it's weather sealed, so it fits well with the E-M5ii. Thanks for good recommends. Size is something to be considered. I do like size of this 12-42, but somehow quality is underwhelming, and it could be little wider. I like 20 mm on FF. Actually my most used lens is 20-35...it is quite big thou. So maybe that 9-18 would actually be great. I do like primes too. So will compare it to that rokinon. It might be fun with my K-3 too.. don't want to put too much money to this thou..just have compact nice quality fun machine.

09-16-2017, 12:04 PM - 2 Likes	#1941
Michi Joel Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Catalonia Photos: Albums Posts: 441	LX100

09-16-2017, 01:59 PM	#1942
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Great shots with LX! Here is couple fom my E-M5II with 12-42 hand held (stitch) and couple with my DA55 well image quality is not even close to my K-1 or even K-3...but it is small, and actually it was fun to go around. i also tried my M 75-150 yesterday. So different perspective, and I know that I could just crop it from my K-1 but this seems to be different thing. EVF takes some time to get used to. But I think that with nice little lens it will be a lot of fun, maybe even some small primes at some point, who knows. Last edited by repaap; 09-16-2017 at 02:06 PM.*

09-16-2017, 03:40 PM	#1943
Clarkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,456	Originally posted by northcoastgreg There are at least four small, lightweight AF options: the aforementioned Panny 12-32, Oly 9-18, and Oly 12 f2, plus the Panny 12-60 f3.5-5.6. The Oly 12 is the best of the bunch, but pricey, followed by the Pany 12-60, the Oly 9-18, and the Pany 12-32. My top recommendation would be the Panny 12-60, because it's currently the best of the compact zooms and it's weather sealed, so it fits well with the E-M5ii. Thanks for that - the Panny 12-60 3.5-5.6? I have been considering trading either my GM1 or GM1 for either the G85 or E-M5ii with that lens as a compact WR travel solution (when actually backpacking).

09-16-2017, 05:54 PM	#1944
Clarkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,456	A couple from today. First with the Oly 45mm, second with the 12-32mm. Rock Haul by Aaron, on Flickr Underhang by Aaron, on Flickr

09-16-2017, 06:12 PM	#1945
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,142	Surfs flat there today!

09-16-2017, 06:38 PM	#1946
Clarkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,456	Originally posted by surfar Surfs flat there today! The odd ripple from a passing jetski, and waterski boats..... Complete with pumping music. Sometimes pictures are like silence.

09-17-2017, 02:27 PM - 1 Like	#1947
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Here is couple more with my new toy. one with M75-150 and two with 'kit lens'12-42

09-19-2017, 07:06 PM - 1 Like	#1949
Clarkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,456	Originally posted by northcoastgreg I've been looking at quite a few images shot with the Panny 12-60 3.5-5.6 on Flickr and have been impressed. I suspect it's now the best of the compact variable aperture zoom lenses and yes, it would make an excellent companion for either the GX85 or E-M5ii for outdoor/backpacking work. From another fine compact Panny zoom, the 45-175: [COLOR="Silver"] Cheers - that lens is also on my list at some point. One from the slow (but oh, so compact) 35-100mm: Three's no crowd by Aaron, on Flickr

09-20-2017, 11:38 PM	#1950
redox61 Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Ekaterinburg Posts: 159	Comparison of some micro 4/3 and k-mount lenses (Olympus EM-10 and Pentax K-70 cameras)