Micro Four Thirds Club

rbelyell · 12-13-2016, 11:04 AM

yeah, that comes through a bit better to my eye. id be really curious to see the bkgd darkened--i think itd increase the drama.

northcoastgreg · 12-17-2016, 10:58 AM - **3 Likes**

From the Oly 11-22:

**Clarkey** · 12-17-2016, 11:25 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by rbelyell

yeah, that comes through a bit better to my eye. id be really curious to see the bkgd darkened--i think itd increase the drama.

Cheers, I did try darkening, but too much drama!

A couple of recent photos. Winter has definitely arrived:

Untitled by Aaron, on Flickr

Snowy Road by Aaron, on Flickr

rbelyell · 12-17-2016, 12:36 PM

very nice. really admire the second one.

edmundrt · 12-18-2016, 06:49 AM - **1 Like**

Tokai Nature Trail, outside Nagoya. Panasonic GF7 with 12-32 lens.

wildman · 12-18-2016, 03:59 PM

Low light 3mp crop with the E-M10 and a adapted FA 35mm at f/2.

**Clarkey** · 12-19-2016, 05:36 AM

Originally posted by rbelyell

very nice. really admire the second one.

Many thanks!

wildman · 12-19-2016, 03:17 PM

Is TAv mode possible on my E-M10 while retaining the ability to set Ev on the fly in real time with the histogram display like in S and A mode or something close?
I've gone through the manual and so far the answer would seem to be no but maybe I'm missing something.

Thanks,
Wildman

northcoastgreg · 12-20-2016, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by wildman

Is TAv mode possible on my E-M10 while retaining the ability to set Ev on the fly in real time with the histogram display like in S and A mode or something close?

The closest you can get is to set auto ISO in M mode. Unfortunately, there is no EV compensation when you do that, so histogram displays are largely useless under those circumstances. It turns out that auto ISO in M is not a real alternative to TAV if you're missing EV comp.

mecrox · 12-20-2016, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by northcoastgreg

From the Oly 11-22:

Very fine image. The more I see your images the more I am tempted to get a genuine WA. At the mo, the widest I have is the 12/24mm of the 12-40mm Oly zoom. Anyone prepared to sing the praises of the 9-18mm which is somewhat affordable or should I be looking elsewhere?

northcoastgreg · 12-20-2016, 09:04 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mecrox

Anyone prepared to sing the praises of the 9-18mm which is somewhat affordable or should I be looking elsewhere?

I owned the 9-18 for several years and, initially at least, used it quite a bit, and even won a couple of awards with images from the lens. The lens is fairly sharp away from the edges, with really good contrast and color in the 9 to 15 range. The biggest selling point, however, of the 9-18 is its diminutive size. It's surprisingly small for a wide angle zoom. It also works great with filters. Even at 9mm I never had an issue with vignetting even when using a rather thick 10 stop ND filter combined with square cokin-P filters.

An image from the Oly 9-18:

For those shooting Pany cameras, the Pany 7-14 is a very credible solution. On Olympus cams, the 7-14 is prone to purple fringing/blobbing from strong light sources. The other option is the Oly 7-14 Pro, which is a bit heavy for an m43 lens but optically excellent.

mecrox · 12-20-2016, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by northcoastgreg

I owned the 9-18 for several years and, initially at least, used it quite a bit, and even won a couple of awards with images from the lens. The lens is fairly sharp away from the edges, with really good contrast and color in the 9 to 15 range. The biggest selling point, however, of the 9-18 is its diminutive size. It's surprisingly small for a wide angle zoom. It also works great with filters. Even at 9mm I never had an issue with vignetting even when using a rather thick 10 stop ND filter combined with square cokin-P filters.

An image from the Oly 9-18:

For those shooting Pany cameras, the Pany 7-14 is a very credible solution. On Olympus cams, the 7-14 is prone to purple fringing/blobbing from strong light sources. The other option is the Oly 7-14 Pro, which is a bit heavy for an m43 lens but optically excellent.

Thanks, I think I might check out the Christmas sales then. It looks to be the 9-18mm or the 7-14mm as really the only two choices out there since I only have Oly bodies. Lack of filter support with the 7-14mm is a bummer, imho, but maybe the image quality makes it worth it. Have to see what's left in the piggy bank in ten or so days!

wildman · 12-21-2016, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by northcoastgreg

The closest you can get is to set auto ISO in M mode. Unfortunately, there is no EV compensation when you do that, so histogram displays are largely useless under those circumstances. It turns out that auto ISO in M is not a real alternative to TAV if you're missing EV comp.

Thanks for that.
I thought I might be missing something what with all the settings on the Oly.

Kuzma · 12-21-2016, 11:20 AM - **1 Like**

Panasonic G7. Nothing special. Just people buying Christmas gifts.)

wildman · 12-21-2016, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by Kuzma

Panasonic G7. Nothing special. Just people buying Christmas gifts.)

Well done...

12-18-2016, 03:59 PM	#1581
wildman Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Flyover America Posts: 4,469	Low light 3mp crop with the E-M10 and a adapted FA 35mm at f/2. Last edited by wildman; 12-22-2016 at 02:51 PM.

12-19-2016, 03:17 PM	#1583
wildman Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Flyover America Posts: 4,469	TAv mode possible on my E-M10? Is TAv mode possible on my E-M10 while retaining the ability to set Ev on the fly in real time with the histogram display like in S and A mode or something close? I've gone through the manual and so far the answer would seem to be no but maybe I'm missing something. Thanks, Wildman Last edited by wildman; 12-19-2016 at 03:33 PM.

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12-13-2016, 11:04 AM	#1576
rbelyell Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 95	yeah, that comes through a bit better to my eye. id be really curious to see the bkgd darkened--i think itd increase the drama.

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12-17-2016, 11:25 AM - 2 Likes	#1578
Clarkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,456	Originally posted by rbelyell yeah, that comes through a bit better to my eye. id be really curious to see the bkgd darkened--i think itd increase the drama. Cheers, I did try darkening, but too much drama! A couple of recent photos. Winter has definitely arrived: Untitled by Aaron, on Flickr Snowy Road by Aaron, on Flickr

12-17-2016, 12:36 PM	#1579
rbelyell Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 95	very nice. really admire the second one.

12-18-2016, 06:49 AM - 1 Like	#1580
edmundrt Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Nagoya Posts: 577	Tokai Nature Trail, outside Nagoya. Panasonic GF7 with 12-32 lens.

12-19-2016, 05:36 AM	#1582
Clarkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,456	Originally posted by rbelyell very nice. really admire the second one. Many thanks!

12-20-2016, 07:48 AM	#1584
northcoastgreg Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Northern Michigan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,173	Originally posted by wildman Is TAv mode possible on my E-M10 while retaining the ability to set Ev on the fly in real time with the histogram display like in S and A mode or something close? The closest you can get is to set auto ISO in M mode. Unfortunately, there is no EV compensation when you do that, so histogram displays are largely useless under those circumstances. It turns out that auto ISO in M is not a real alternative to TAV if you're missing EV comp.

12-20-2016, 08:08 AM	#1585
mecrox Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oxford, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,375	Originally posted by northcoastgreg From the Oly 11-22: Very fine image. The more I see your images the more I am tempted to get a genuine WA. At the mo, the widest I have is the 12/24mm of the 12-40mm Oly zoom. Anyone prepared to sing the praises of the 9-18mm which is somewhat affordable or should I be looking elsewhere?

12-20-2016, 09:04 AM - 1 Like	#1586
northcoastgreg Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Northern Michigan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,173	Originally posted by mecrox Anyone prepared to sing the praises of the 9-18mm which is somewhat affordable or should I be looking elsewhere? I owned the 9-18 for several years and, initially at least, used it quite a bit, and even won a couple of awards with images from the lens. The lens is fairly sharp away from the edges, with really good contrast and color in the 9 to 15 range. The biggest selling point, however, of the 9-18 is its diminutive size. It's surprisingly small for a wide angle zoom. It also works great with filters. Even at 9mm I never had an issue with vignetting even when using a rather thick 10 stop ND filter combined with square cokin-P filters. An image from the Oly 9-18: For those shooting Pany cameras, the Pany 7-14 is a very credible solution. On Olympus cams, the 7-14 is prone to purple fringing/blobbing from strong light sources. The other option is the Oly 7-14 Pro, which is a bit heavy for an m43 lens but optically excellent.

12-20-2016, 12:52 PM	#1587
mecrox Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oxford, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,375	Originally posted by northcoastgreg I owned the 9-18 for several years and, initially at least, used it quite a bit, and even won a couple of awards with images from the lens. The lens is fairly sharp away from the edges, with really good contrast and color in the 9 to 15 range. The biggest selling point, however, of the 9-18 is its diminutive size. It's surprisingly small for a wide angle zoom. It also works great with filters. Even at 9mm I never had an issue with vignetting even when using a rather thick 10 stop ND filter combined with square cokin-P filters. An image from the Oly 9-18: For those shooting Pany cameras, the Pany 7-14 is a very credible solution. On Olympus cams, the 7-14 is prone to purple fringing/blobbing from strong light sources. The other option is the Oly 7-14 Pro, which is a bit heavy for an m43 lens but optically excellent. Thanks, I think I might check out the Christmas sales then. It looks to be the 9-18mm or the 7-14mm as really the only two choices out there since I only have Oly bodies. Lack of filter support with the 7-14mm is a bummer, imho, but maybe the image quality makes it worth it. Have to see what's left in the piggy bank in ten or so days!

12-21-2016, 01:02 AM	#1588
wildman Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Flyover America Posts: 4,469	Originally posted by northcoastgreg The closest you can get is to set auto ISO in M mode. Unfortunately, there is no EV compensation when you do that, so histogram displays are largely useless under those circumstances. It turns out that auto ISO in M is not a real alternative to TAV if you're missing EV comp. Thanks for that. I thought I might be missing something what with all the settings on the Oly.

12-21-2016, 11:20 AM - 1 Like	#1589
Kuzma Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Moscow Posts: 514	Panasonic G7. Nothing special. Just people buying Christmas gifts.)

12-21-2016, 03:23 PM	#1590
wildman Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Flyover America Posts: 4,469	Originally posted by Kuzma Panasonic G7. Nothing special. Just people buying Christmas gifts.) Well done...