41 Megapixel Nokia 808 smartphone camera

ElJamoquio · 07-17-2012, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by falconeye

That shouldn't matter.

They're talking about a data plan charged by a carrier. The carrier charges more if the sim card is inserted in a smart phone.

rawr · 07-17-2012, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by ElJamoquio

The carrier charges more if the sim card is inserted in a smart phone.

Weird.

There's nothing like that in Australia. I can swap my SIM into any handset I like. Although it obviously makes more sense to get a generous data plan if you use a smartphone, you dont need to. The data plan is independent of the handset.

eddie1960 · 07-18-2012, 05:33 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

That shouldn't matter.

First, the 808 camera obviously doesn't need a SIM card to work. At least, I would guess so.

Second, I have an iPhone and got two additional SIM cards with it. They fit everywhere, Smartphones and iPad included. Any phone which isn't locked. That's the meaning of unlocked ...

Yep that's the way it works, as long as the sim is active you can swap it between any unlocked phone
the IMEI registration is tied to locked phones, I always have my phone unlocked so when I spend a couple of weeks in Europe I can grab a local card and save a ton of money over the rates i'd pay roaming

Jodokast96 · 07-18-2012, 02:27 PM

Knock yourselves out then. Just don't complain when a U.S. carrier nails for a data plan you didn't want....

rawr · 07-20-2012, 12:51 AM

ePhotozine's full review of the Nokia 808 was posted today, complete with ISO test images, timelapse shooting tests, video tests etc:
Nokia PureView 808 Camera Phone Review

falconeye · 07-24-2012, 12:22 PM - **1 Like**

I tried the 808 in the studio now

(please, click for full size)

Read more about it here:

-> Falk Lumo: The iCamera (Nokia 808 Pureview) Part II: In the studio ;)

eddie1960 · 07-24-2012, 12:57 PM

nice sample Falk, damn that is insanely impressive for a cell phone, hell it's impressive for a point and shoot

rawr · 07-24-2012, 05:39 PM

It sounded horrendously complicated to set up that studio shot, but the results are impressive.

However I think PhaseOne, 645D, D600E etc need not be too worried.

I wonder btw why the 808 doesn't have a RAW option. Given the photo-centric design and all the other advanced features, they probably could easily have included RAW.

falconeye · 07-25-2012, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by rawr

easily have included RAW.

You name it. And then:

3:2 format option.
manual shutter speed (they already have exposure compensation with live histogram though, and manual ISO).
pre-flash to be turned off with manual flash power.
manual focus (they have a hyperfocal mode though).
and DNG output, you're right.

The camera is great as it is, but there are no strong reasons why they left out the above. It would be ok to have it in an API, the camera APPs will use it.

The studio setup was tricky to figure out. But now that I know it, it is actually quick and hazzle-free. My description was a bit verbose to give others a chance too.

Mistral75 · 07-30-2012, 03:52 PM

Tested by Digital Photography Review:

Review: Nokia 808 PureView: Digital Photography Review

Smeggypants · 08-06-2012, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by falconeye

You name it. And then:

3:2 format option.
manual shutter speed (they already have exposure compensation with live histogram though, and manual ISO).
pre-flash to be turned off with manual flash power.
manual focus (they have a hyperfocal mode though).
and DNG output, you're right.

The camera is great as it is, but there are no strong reasons why they left out the above. It would be ok to have it in an API, the camera APPs will use it.

The studio setup was tricky to figure out. But now that I know it, it is actually quick and hazzle-free. My description was a bit verbose to give others a chance too.

Hi Falk

Damian Dinning is the guy involved with the development of the 808 and answer questions on his twitter feed

https://twitter.com/phonedaz

Smeggypants · 10-20-2012, 07:45 PM

well ..... FINALLY ..... ordered a Nokia 808. Should be here tuesday!!

snake · 10-20-2012, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by Jodokast96

If you use a smartphone, yes, they will tack on a data plan. Swapping the SIM won't matter, they can tell from the IMEI if it's a smartphone or not.

You haven't got a clue. I recently moved back to the US. Walked into T-mobile, got a calling plan without data, no issue, for my N8. Walked into ATT, when a better deal came up, had a non-data plan, but later switched to a data one.

In Europe, I used my N8 without data, as I was on a prepaid plan and had Wifi nearly everywhere I was.

jogiba · 01-02-2014, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by rawr

It sounded horrendously complicated to set up that studio shot, but the results are impressive.

However I think PhaseOne, 645D, D600E etc need not be too worried.

I wonder btw why the 808 doesn't have a RAW option. Given the photo-centric design and all the other advanced features, they probably could easily have included RAW.

Download and play with Nokia's new Raw photo files: Connect

falconeye · 01-02-2014, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by jogiba

Download and play with Nokia's new Raw photo files: Connect

Unfortunately, not available for 808 PV.
Although, 808PV remains king of the block for anything smaller than an RX100m2.

07-24-2012, 12:22 PM - 1 Like	#366
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871 Original Poster	The iCamera (Nokia 808 Pureview) Part II: In the studio ;) I tried the 808 in the studio now (please, click for full size) Read more about it here: -> Falk Lumo: The iCamera (Nokia 808 Pureview) Part II: In the studio ;)

07-25-2012, 10:14 AM	#369
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871 Original Poster	Originally posted by rawr easily have included RAW. You name it. And then: 3:2 format option. manual shutter speed (they already have exposure compensation with live histogram though, and manual ISO). pre-flash to be turned off with manual flash power. manual focus (they have a hyperfocal mode though). and DNG output, you're right. The camera is great as it is, but there are no strong reasons why they left out the above. It would be ok to have it in an API, the camera APPs will use it. The studio setup was tricky to figure out. But now that I know it, it is actually quick and hazzle-free. My description was a bit verbose to give others a chance too.

08-06-2012, 02:45 PM	#371
Smeggypants Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,536	Originally posted by falconeye You name it. And then: 3:2 format option. manual shutter speed (they already have exposure compensation with live histogram though, and manual ISO). pre-flash to be turned off with manual flash power. manual focus (they have a hyperfocal mode though). and DNG output, you're right. The camera is great as it is, but there are no strong reasons why they left out the above. It would be ok to have it in an API, the camera APPs will use it. The studio setup was tricky to figure out. But now that I know it, it is actually quick and hazzle-free. My description was a bit verbose to give others a chance too. Hi Falk Damian Dinning is the guy involved with the development of the 808 and answer questions on his twitter feed https://twitter.com/phonedaz

01-02-2014, 06:34 AM	#374
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Download and play with Nokia's new Raw photo files Originally posted by rawr It sounded horrendously complicated to set up that studio shot, but the results are impressive. However I think PhaseOne, 645D, D600E etc need not be too worried. I wonder btw why the 808 doesn't have a RAW option. Given the photo-centric design and all the other advanced features, they probably could easily have included RAW. Download and play with Nokia's new Raw photo files: Connect

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07-17-2012, 02:18 PM	#361
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Originally posted by falconeye That shouldn't matter. They're talking about a data plan charged by a carrier. The carrier charges more if the sim card is inserted in a smart phone.

07-17-2012, 06:15 PM	#362
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by ElJamoquio The carrier charges more if the sim card is inserted in a smart phone. Weird. There's nothing like that in Australia. I can swap my SIM into any handset I like. Although it obviously makes more sense to get a generous data plan if you use a smartphone, you dont need to. The data plan is independent of the handset.

07-18-2012, 05:33 AM	#363
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by falconeye That shouldn't matter. First, the 808 camera obviously doesn't need a SIM card to work. At least, I would guess so. Second, I have an iPhone and got two additional SIM cards with it. They fit everywhere, Smartphones and iPad included. Any phone which isn't locked. That's the meaning of unlocked ... Yep that's the way it works, as long as the sim is active you can swap it between any unlocked phone the IMEI registration is tied to locked phones, I always have my phone unlocked so when I spend a couple of weeks in Europe I can grab a local card and save a ton of money over the rates i'd pay roaming

07-18-2012, 02:27 PM	#364
Jodokast96 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Erial, NJ USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,134	Knock yourselves out then. Just don't complain when a U.S. carrier nails for a data plan you didn't want....

07-20-2012, 12:51 AM	#365
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	ePhotozine's full review of the Nokia 808 was posted today, complete with ISO test images, timelapse shooting tests, video tests etc: Nokia PureView 808 Camera Phone Review

07-24-2012, 12:57 PM	#367
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	nice sample Falk, damn that is insanely impressive for a cell phone, hell it's impressive for a point and shoot

07-24-2012, 05:39 PM	#368
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	It sounded horrendously complicated to set up that studio shot, but the results are impressive. However I think PhaseOne, 645D, D600E etc need not be too worried. I wonder btw why the 808 doesn't have a RAW option. Given the photo-centric design and all the other advanced features, they probably could easily have included RAW.

07-30-2012, 03:52 PM	#370
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10-20-2012, 07:45 PM	#372
Smeggypants Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,536	well ..... FINALLY ..... ordered a Nokia 808. Should be here tuesday!!

10-20-2012, 07:56 PM	#373
snake Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: NY/Germany Posts: 1,183	Originally posted by Jodokast96 If you use a smartphone, yes, they will tack on a data plan. Swapping the SIM won't matter, they can tell from the IMEI if it's a smartphone or not. You haven't got a clue. I recently moved back to the US. Walked into T-mobile, got a calling plan without data, no issue, for my N8. Walked into ATT, when a better deal came up, had a non-data plan, but later switched to a data one. In Europe, I used my N8 without data, as I was on a prepaid plan and had Wifi nearly everywhere I was.

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01-02-2014, 10:30 AM	#375
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871 Original Poster	Originally posted by jogiba Download and play with Nokia's new Raw photo files: Connect Unfortunately, not available for 808 PV. Although, 808PV remains king of the block for anything smaller than an RX100m2.