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02-27-2012, 03:58 PM   #46
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Ouch! I wonder if this sensor will find it's way into 'serious' cameras. This is a bit scary when you think about it... Do we sell our K's and wait for a 41mpx K-5 replacement ;-)

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Came here to make fun of this thing, but dang! those images sure looks better than P&S for sure, IMPRESSED!
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The noise floor would be pretty high wouldn't it? But seriously, the D800 sensor is starting to look a bit puny already.... One could imagine a K-5 replacement having an 80mpx sensor at this rate.
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QuoteOriginally posted by falconeye Quote
The Q has too small an image circle to accomodate anything nearly as large.
Aha. Pity.

Does the 808 shoot RAW? If yes, the DXOMark will be interesting.

I also wonder when Nikon, Fuji etc will start releasing phones just in order to stay in the game and stop their compacts getting eaten up by phones like the 808.

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QuoteOriginally posted by rawr Quote
Aha. Pity.

Does the 808 shoot RAW? If yes, the DXOMark will be interesting.

I also wonder when Nikon, Fuji etc will start releasing phones just in order to stay in the game and stop their compacts getting eaten up by phones like the 808.
It will be hard for phone cameras to have wide zoom ratios like compact superzooms.
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Sure, but we are not talking about zooming. We are talking about cameras like Ricoh GRD being in danger.
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Another one from the Nokia shop site:


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Downscaled by Nokia to 1200px width. But exposure time must be small because there is no noticeable motion blur.
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Just want to point out it looks like it has a Xenon flash. Yeah baby!

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I wonder if all other sensors will upscale to this degree or if this will just end up destroying the P&S market. Next we might see composite lenses (like a fly's eye) where each lens is a pixel... the sensor and lens will probably be one unit and truly digital as a result. If those lenses were flexible one could see the end of photography as we know it.
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Ok, even Nikon can't produce miracles ...

I had a closer look at All sizes | Images taken with Nokia 808 PureView in Cape Town | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

It is at taken at 10EV (so, not the usual full daylight to start with) and has almost black shadows in the foreground (cf. 1st attachmant at 800px width).

I then boosted the shadows the way almost only a K-5 tolerates (cf. 2nd attachmant at 800px width).

Of course,with jpg, the exercis eisn't that useful. But in this case, it reveals noticeable horizontal banding. That's a problem better system cameras have as well. But we almost forgot with the gorgeous K-5 sensor quality
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QuoteOriginally posted by bossa Quote
Next we might see composite lenses (like a fly's eye) where each lens is a pixel...
People who think this all missed their physics courses. Btw, this includes most bloggers writing about Lytro. There still is a thing called quantum mechanics.

And it implies that segmented lens cameras can't resolve well. It's the reason too why evolution abandoned the compound eye (fly) and made a fresh start with the refractive cornea eye.
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QuoteOriginally posted by falconeye Quote
People who think this all missed their physics courses. Btw, this includes most bloggers writing about Lytro. There still is a thing called quantum mechanics.

And it implies that segmented lens cameras can't resolve well. It's the reason too why evolution abandoned the compound eye (fly) and made a fresh start with the refractive cornea eye.
not really, I only posted this to see what kind of responses I'd get.

PS: Evolution didn't abandon the compound eye. There are trillions of insects on Earth right now with compound eyes. Everything fits in perfectly for what it is required to do. That's what happens.. it's not like nature went out and designed a new eye. and said.. "All insects from this point on will cease to exist or go blind"

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Hot damn... I'd buy an 808 simply for use as a camera. A connected camera at that! So much for my Q musings.

I feel a song coming on...

In my mind and in my car, we can't rewind we've gone to far.
Pictures came and broke your heart, put the blame on the 808.

Nokia killed the point and shoot.
Nokia killed the point and shoot.
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LOL doesn't rhyme but will do...
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Lens protector (and case) for the 808:

Nokia Europe - Nokia Hard Cover CC-3046 for Nokia 808 PureView - Overview

There's also a tripod mount accessory. At full resolution in good light, this thing will likely take incredibly detailed landscapes and cityscapes.
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