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Smeggypants · 03-11-2012, 06:11 AM

Amazing pics. And the quality of modern post processing to enhance them is spot on too!!!

Venturi · 03-11-2012, 10:02 AM

I keep going back over and over these photos. And now I've begun window shopping 4x5 cameras.

tuco · 03-11-2012, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by Venturi

I keep going back over and over these photos. And now I've begun window shopping 4x5 cameras.

Those shots look drum scanned which is not the same as a commodity flatbed scanner.

tuco · 03-11-2012, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by jimH

I can guarantee that the DC3s weren't pressurized! I was a flight mechanic on them in the 60s ...

Weren't those square cornered windows on the DC3 a lesson in what not to do pressurized or not?

For many years I was one of the engineering representatives on the material review board dispositioning non-conformance items on the factory floor. I worked closely with the mechanics. It was really good ~~nuts and bolt~~ rivet and hi-lok experience. The skill and magic the mechanics had to perform on a daily basis was nothing short of amazing.

unixrevolution · 03-12-2012, 07:56 AM

Originally posted by Venturi

I keep going back over and over these photos. And now I've begun window shopping 4x5 cameras.

One of us! One of us!

I went 4x5 and I adore it...I haven't gotten anything as stunning as those K-chromes though.

And yes, a drum scanner will get you the holy-crap-awesome results, but an Epson Perfection flatbed will do very well too.

Smeggypants · 03-12-2012, 08:08 AM

There's more here

Kodak goes to war | johnbrawley

cali92rs · 03-12-2012, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by Smeggypants

There's more here

Kodak goes to war | johnbrawley

That is awesome, thanks for the link.

It kind of makes me sad though. I used to work in Boeing (formerly McDonnell Douglas), Long Beach. And all that is left in that facility is the C-17. There used to be 30,000 people working in that complex, now there is less than 3,000. Its a shell of its former self and sad.
LOL, sorry, just nostalgic.

slackercruster · 03-12-2012, 11:11 AM

The people esp women were all skinny then. No fast food to plump em up.

eddie1960 · 03-12-2012, 11:19 AM

great series, no doubt mostly shot on something resembling one of these (there were a large number of different military models)

from the graflex site

a quick search on the first photographer confirmed it

from the site selling his work a picture of him with thecamera

Venturi · 03-12-2012, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by unixrevolution

One of us! One of us!

I went 4x5 and I adore it...I haven't gotten anything as stunning as those K-chromes though.

And yes, a drum scanner will get you the holy-crap-awesome results, but an Epson Perfection flatbed will do very well too.

I would love to have a 4x5 for portrait work. And I could justify the $5 per frame cost for that too.
I have a V700; love it. I'm scanning a couple 120 rolls of Ilford Delta 100 as I peruse the forums tonight.

unixrevolution · 03-13-2012, 06:57 AM

Originally posted by slackercruster

The people esp women were all skinny then. No fast food to plump em up.

Not to mention rationing....

unixrevolution · 03-13-2012, 06:58 AM

Originally posted by Venturi

I would love to have a 4x5 for portrait work. And I could justify the $5 per frame cost for that too.
I have a V700; love it. I'm scanning a couple 120 rolls of Ilford Delta 100 as I peruse the forums tonight.

$5/frame is cheap! I pay $3.85 for processing of my film. Sheets cost between 2 and 3 dollars each to buy, so I'm up between 6 and 7 dollars a frame before any scanning or printing happens.

eddie1960 · 03-13-2012, 07:08 AM

Originally posted by unixrevolution

$5/frame is cheap! I pay $3.85 for processing of my film. Sheets cost between 2 and 3 dollars each to buy, so I'm up between 6 and 7 dollars a frame before any scanning or printing happens.

I'm guessing you are referring to colour (man has the assortment on colour ever shrunk 3 neg and 5 slide films)

Freestyle has HP5 and FP4 @ 1.2849 per sheet if you buy a 100 sheet box (I used to use the 4x5 FP4 for internegs in the darkroom way back). Rollei infrared is !.40 a sheet in50 sheet boxes
the b/w assortment is quite varied. still (and the only film for 8x10 now that is sad

tuco · 03-13-2012, 07:55 AM

Originally posted by unixrevolution

$5/frame is cheap! I pay $3.85 for processing of my film. Sheets cost between 2 and 3 dollars each to buy, so I'm up between 6 and 7 dollars a frame before any scanning or printing happens.

Is that color or BW? For BW, you really should be doing it yourself. Not only will the cost be less but there is much you can do at the processing stage such as choice of developer and processing for highlight compression that will give your images an edge above those at the mercy of someone else doing it for you. It is kind of like shooting JPEG vs RAW in digital.

dylansalt · 03-13-2012, 01:50 PM

An amazing series

Have yet to see any modern current FF dslr produce results such as these - such detail

03-13-2012, 07:55 AM	#29
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,032	Originally posted by unixrevolution $5/frame is cheap! I pay $3.85 for processing of my film. Sheets cost between 2 and 3 dollars each to buy, so I'm up between 6 and 7 dollars a frame before any scanning or printing happens. Is that color or BW? For BW, you really should be doing it yourself. Not only will the cost be less but there is much you can do at the processing stage such as choice of developer and processing for highlight compression that will give your images an edge above those at the mercy of someone else doing it for you. It is kind of like shooting JPEG vs RAW in digital. Last edited by tuco; 03-13-2012 at 08:07 AM.

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03-11-2012, 06:11 AM	#16
Smeggypants Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,536	Amazing pics. And the quality of modern post processing to enhance them is spot on too!!!

03-11-2012, 10:02 AM	#17
Venturi Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,636	I keep going back over and over these photos. And now I've begun window shopping 4x5 cameras.

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tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,032	Originally posted by Venturi I keep going back over and over these photos. And now I've begun window shopping 4x5 cameras. Those shots look drum scanned which is not the same as a commodity flatbed scanner.

03-11-2012, 11:29 AM	#19
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,032	Originally posted by jimH I can guarantee that the DC3s weren't pressurized! I was a flight mechanic on them in the 60s ... Weren't those square cornered windows on the DC3 a lesson in what not to do pressurized or not? For many years I was one of the engineering representatives on the material review board dispositioning non-conformance items on the factory floor. I worked closely with the mechanics. It was really good ~~nuts and bolt~~ rivet and hi-lok experience. The skill and magic the mechanics had to perform on a daily basis was nothing short of amazing.

03-12-2012, 07:56 AM	#20
unixrevolution Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Waldorf, MD Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,861	Originally posted by Venturi I keep going back over and over these photos. And now I've begun window shopping 4x5 cameras. One of us! One of us! I went 4x5 and I adore it...I haven't gotten anything as stunning as those K-chromes though. And yes, a drum scanner will get you the holy-crap-awesome results, but an Epson Perfection flatbed will do very well too.

03-12-2012, 08:08 AM	#21
Smeggypants Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,536	There's more here Kodak goes to war \| johnbrawley

03-12-2012, 10:25 AM	#22
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354 Original Poster	Originally posted by Smeggypants There's more here Kodak goes to war \| johnbrawley That is awesome, thanks for the link. It kind of makes me sad though. I used to work in Boeing (formerly McDonnell Douglas), Long Beach. And all that is left in that facility is the C-17. There used to be 30,000 people working in that complex, now there is less than 3,000. Its a shell of its former self and sad. LOL, sorry, just nostalgic.

03-12-2012, 11:11 AM	#23
slackercruster Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NE, USA Posts: 1,302	The people esp women were all skinny then. No fast food to plump em up.

03-12-2012, 11:19 AM	#24
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,667	great series, no doubt mostly shot on something resembling one of these (there were a large number of different military models) from the graflex site a quick search on the first photographer confirmed it from the site selling his work a picture of him with thecamera

03-12-2012, 11:02 PM	#25
Venturi Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,636	Originally posted by unixrevolution One of us! One of us! I went 4x5 and I adore it...I haven't gotten anything as stunning as those K-chromes though. And yes, a drum scanner will get you the holy-crap-awesome results, but an Epson Perfection flatbed will do very well too. I would love to have a 4x5 for portrait work. And I could justify the $5 per frame cost for that too. I have a V700; love it. I'm scanning a couple 120 rolls of Ilford Delta 100 as I peruse the forums tonight.

03-13-2012, 06:57 AM	#26
unixrevolution Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Waldorf, MD Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,861	Originally posted by slackercruster The people esp women were all skinny then. No fast food to plump em up. Not to mention rationing....

03-13-2012, 06:58 AM	#27
unixrevolution Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Waldorf, MD Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,861	Originally posted by Venturi I would love to have a 4x5 for portrait work. And I could justify the $5 per frame cost for that too. I have a V700; love it. I'm scanning a couple 120 rolls of Ilford Delta 100 as I peruse the forums tonight. $5/frame is cheap! I pay $3.85 for processing of my film. Sheets cost between 2 and 3 dollars each to buy, so I'm up between 6 and 7 dollars a frame before any scanning or printing happens.

03-13-2012, 07:08 AM	#28
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,667	Originally posted by unixrevolution $5/frame is cheap! I pay $3.85 for processing of my film. Sheets cost between 2 and 3 dollars each to buy, so I'm up between 6 and 7 dollars a frame before any scanning or printing happens. I'm guessing you are referring to colour (man has the assortment on colour ever shrunk 3 neg and 5 slide films) Freestyle has HP5 and FP4 @ 1.2849 per sheet if you buy a 100 sheet box (I used to use the 4x5 FP4 for internegs in the darkroom way back). Rollei infrared is !.40 a sheet in50 sheet boxes the b/w assortment is quite varied. still (and the only film for 8x10 now that is sad

03-13-2012, 01:50 PM	#30
dylansalt Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Durban, South Africa Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,052	An amazing series Have yet to see any modern current FF dslr produce results such as these - such detail

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