Low price rumor FF Nikon D600

ElJamoquio · 05-04-2012, 06:53 AM

In all fairness, I have expensive (but certainly not $12k) camera gear, but I still am not the world's best portrait photographer. In fact I consider myself rather subpar right now. Rather than lose a year of pictures of my (hypothetical) children, I'd rather pay you now while I practice.

Raffwal · 05-04-2012, 07:06 AM

A D600 thread has been for more than a week in the Non-Pentax subforum where this discussion should be too.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/non-pentax-cameras-canon-nikon-etc/183802...ff-camera.html

**maxfield_photo** · 05-04-2012, 07:14 AM

Makes sense from a marketing standpoint, sell people an inexpensive camera then charge them through the neck for the lenses to go with it. It's possible that Nikon is selling this camera pretty close to cost, as I suspect they are doing with the D800, at least closer than traditional full frame cameras, but I agree, the price of full frame sensors must be dropping and manufacturing yields increasing. Come on Pentax, show us some love at Photokina!

thibs · 05-04-2012, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

Young guy at my company has his first child coming and his first dSLR, too - Stopped in my office last week to let me know he ordered a D3x and 24~70.2.8G and 70~200/2.8G. Because, you know, its for the children. Don't want to miss those precious moments.

SRSLY

ROTFL what an idiot

thibs · 05-04-2012, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by ElJamoquio

What about when the children are having a precious moment that's rather panoramic? He should really get a wide angle, too.

Yeah, he goes stupidly pricey and he can't even do it fully

**monochrome** · 05-04-2012, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by thibs

Yeah, he goes stupidly pricey and he can't even do it fully

I'm going to laugh when he tries to strap that baby seat in the Cayman. Boy, does he have an education coming.

#toomuchmoney

Quicksand · 05-04-2012, 11:58 AM

You know what, when my son was born, I ran out and bought a K20D, 18-55 II, and FA50. That was my first DSLR.

Is that also idiotic and stupid, only to a lesser magnitude?

Just curious. Because if I had more money at the time, I might have bought more expensive stuff. I'm eager to be judged, so thanks in advance!

thibs · 05-04-2012, 12:10 PM

No, it's not. IMO this is a good choice.
But buying such a pricey unit and lenses for your kids pictures is nonsense.

**monochrome** · 05-04-2012, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by Quicksand

You know what, when my son was born, I ran out and bought a K20D, 18-55 II, and FA50. That was my first DSLR.

Is that also idiotic and stupid, only to a lesser magnitude?

Just curious. Because if I had more money at the time, I might have bought more expensive stuff. I'm eager to be judged, so thanks in advance!

Originally posted by thibs

No, it's not. IMO this is a good choice.
But buying such a pricey unit and lenses for your kids pictures is nonsense.

The point is he could have bought a K-5 and DA* lenses to cover and gotten the same images. But he has to have the most expensive because he has the money.

Hell, my wife got by with a Canon film PnS. I had an MESuper. We're scanning negatives and posting them to my wife's blog. My grandmother had a box camera. My parents had a C3.

thibs · 05-04-2012, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

My parents had a C3.

A Mamiya C3? I love my C330 :ugh:
Too bad it is that heavy. I guess I should get a Rolleiflex for street shooting...

RonHendriks1966 · 05-04-2012, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Young guy at my company has his first child coming and his first dSLR, too - Stopped in my office last week to let me know he ordered a D3x and 24~70.2.8G and 70~200/2.8G. Because, you know, its for the children. Don't want to miss those precious moments.

SRSLY

That is funny. He should have gotten a 645D! Well a lot of becoming new parents take many irrational descisions, like buying a big van for a child that doesn't even walk, buy a camera, take part in a childrens study found (wich is mostly just an insurreance ripoff that takes your money for 21 years and pays like nothing), stop working to discover how fulltime parenthood will be like.

He doesn't have a flash on that D3x

jmg257 · 05-04-2012, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Yeah, he goes stupidly pricey and he can't even do it fully

Quote:

ROTFL what an idiot

Quote:

But buying such a pricey unit and lenses for your kids pictures is nonsense.

Quote:

But he has to have the most expensive because he has the money.

Yep - I hate stupid idiotic guys who somehow manage to make enough money that they can buy top of the line gear simply because they want to.

If I had to gauge my purchasing habits by my skill levels, or on my ability to justify wanting things to other people, I'd never have anything nice (and not be nearly as happy). If I can afford it, when purchasing a camera (or anything else), I too spend what it takes to get EXACTLY what I want - whatever it is. ESPECIALLY if it involves my kids! (or my contentment).

Surprising that some tend to get so hung up on how others spend and enjoy THEIR money.
Life is too short to settle.

Quicksand · 05-04-2012, 01:34 PM - **1 Like**

Didn't you get the memo?

Effective immediately, all gear purchases need to be approved by a supermajority of PentaxForums users.

I also heard that Pentax is required to file for approval of all new product releases, but I don't think that regulation has gone into effect yet.

gazonk · 05-04-2012, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Young guy at my company has his first child coming and his first dSLR, too - Stopped in my office last week to let me know he ordered a D3x and 24~70.2.8G and 70~200/2.8G. Because, you know, its for the children. Don't want to miss those precious moments.

SRSLY

Let me guess: He got a pink Nikon J-1 for his wife for free with that purchase. And she will take all the good pictures of the kid.

jsherman999 · 05-04-2012, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Young guy at my company has his first child coming and his first dSLR, too - Stopped in my office last week to let me know he ordered a D3x and 24~70.2.8G and 70~200/2.8G. Because, you know, its for the children. Don't want to miss those precious moments.

SRSLY

Oh, my.

When my first little guy was a few months old, I upgraded from a P&S to a Pentax K100DS, and I had to work hard on that justification.

The D3x just makes no sense whatsoever. $7000 for a camera that's not going to be as useful as the $3000 D800, when even the D800 is overkill for kids shots alone. I would suggest almost any camera, and any entry-level model before the D3x for someone who's never shot before. The $6000 he could have saved could have gone into a college fund or bonds for that kid... If he wants to really get into the hobby outside of kid shooting, or just really, really loves expensive gear, maybe it makes more sense, but still... Makes me wonder if he got guilt-sold into something he doesn't need by an aggressive, less-than-honest camera store employee.

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jmg257 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 202	Quote: Yeah, he goes stupidly pricey and he can't even do it fully Quote: ROTFL what an idiot Quote: But buying such a pricey unit and lenses for your kids pictures is nonsense. Quote: But he has to have the most expensive because he has the money. Yep - I hate stupid idiotic guys who somehow manage to make enough money that they can buy top of the line gear simply because they want to. If I had to gauge my purchasing habits by my skill levels, or on my ability to justify wanting things to other people, I'd never have anything nice (and not be nearly as happy). If I can afford it, when purchasing a camera (or anything else), I too spend what it takes to get EXACTLY what I want - whatever it is. ESPECIALLY if it involves my kids! (or my contentment). Surprising that some tend to get so hung up on how others spend and enjoy THEIR money. Life is too short to settle. Last edited by jmg257; 05-04-2012 at 01:48 PM.

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05-04-2012, 06:53 AM	#16
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	In all fairness, I have expensive (but certainly not $12k) camera gear, but I still am not the world's best portrait photographer. In fact I consider myself rather subpar right now. Rather than lose a year of pictures of my (hypothetical) children, I'd rather pay you now while I practice.

05-04-2012, 07:06 AM	#17
Raffwal Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The North Posts: 879	A D600 thread has been for more than a week in the Non-Pentax subforum where this discussion should be too. https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/non-pentax-cameras-canon-nikon-etc/183802...ff-camera.html

05-04-2012, 07:14 AM	#18
maxfield_photo Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,216	Makes sense from a marketing standpoint, sell people an inexpensive camera then charge them through the neck for the lenses to go with it. It's possible that Nikon is selling this camera pretty close to cost, as I suspect they are doing with the D800, at least closer than traditional full frame cameras, but I agree, the price of full frame sensors must be dropping and manufacturing yields increasing. Come on Pentax, show us some love at Photokina!

05-04-2012, 11:47 AM	#19
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by monochrome Young guy at my company has his first child coming and his first dSLR, too - Stopped in my office last week to let me know he ordered a D3x and 24~70.2.8G and 70~200/2.8G. Because, you know, its for the children. Don't want to miss those precious moments. SRSLY ROTFL what an idiot

05-04-2012, 11:50 AM	#20
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by ElJamoquio What about when the children are having a precious moment that's rather panoramic? He should really get a wide angle, too. Yeah, he goes stupidly pricey and he can't even do it fully

05-04-2012, 11:53 AM	#21
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by thibs Yeah, he goes stupidly pricey and he can't even do it fully I'm going to laugh when he tries to strap that baby seat in the Cayman. Boy, does he have an education coming. #toomuchmoney

05-04-2012, 11:58 AM	#22
Quicksand Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Ohio (formerly SF Bay Area) Posts: 1,519	You know what, when my son was born, I ran out and bought a K20D, 18-55 II, and FA50. That was my first DSLR. Is that also idiotic and stupid, only to a lesser magnitude? Just curious. Because if I had more money at the time, I might have bought more expensive stuff. I'm eager to be judged, so thanks in advance!

05-04-2012, 12:10 PM	#23
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	No, it's not. IMO this is a good choice. But buying such a pricey unit and lenses for your kids pictures is nonsense.

05-04-2012, 12:17 PM	#24
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Quicksand You know what, when my son was born, I ran out and bought a K20D, 18-55 II, and FA50. That was my first DSLR. Is that also idiotic and stupid, only to a lesser magnitude? Just curious. Because if I had more money at the time, I might have bought more expensive stuff. I'm eager to be judged, so thanks in advance! Originally posted by thibs No, it's not. IMO this is a good choice. But buying such a pricey unit and lenses for your kids pictures is nonsense. The point is he could have bought a K-5 and DA* lenses to cover and gotten the same images. But he has to have the most expensive because he has the money. Hell, my wife got by with a Canon film PnS. I had an MESuper. We're scanning negatives and posting them to my wife's blog. My grandmother had a box camera. My parents had a C3.

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thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by monochrome My parents had a C3. A Mamiya C3? I love my C330 :ugh: Too bad it is that heavy. I guess I should get a Rolleiflex for street shooting...

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05-04-2012, 12:28 PM	#26
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by monochrome Young guy at my company has his first child coming and his first dSLR, too - Stopped in my office last week to let me know he ordered a D3x and 24~70.2.8G and 70~200/2.8G. Because, you know, its for the children. Don't want to miss those precious moments. SRSLY That is funny. He should have gotten a 645D! Well a lot of becoming new parents take many irrational descisions, like buying a big van for a child that doesn't even walk, buy a camera, take part in a childrens study found (wich is mostly just an insurreance ripoff that takes your money for 21 years and pays like nothing), stop working to discover how fulltime parenthood will be like. He doesn't have a flash on that D3x

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Quicksand Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Ohio (formerly SF Bay Area) Posts: 1,519	Didn't you get the memo? Effective immediately, all gear purchases need to be approved by a supermajority of PentaxForums users. I also heard that Pentax is required to file for approval of all new product releases, but I don't think that regulation has gone into effect yet.

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gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by monochrome Young guy at my company has his first child coming and his first dSLR, too - Stopped in my office last week to let me know he ordered a D3x and 24~70.2.8G and 70~200/2.8G. Because, you know, its for the children. Don't want to miss those precious moments. SRSLY Let me guess: He got a pink Nikon J-1 for his wife for free with that purchase. And she will take all the good pictures of the kid.

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jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237	Originally posted by monochrome Young guy at my company has his first child coming and his first dSLR, too - Stopped in my office last week to let me know he ordered a D3x and 24~70.2.8G and 70~200/2.8G. Because, you know, its for the children. Don't want to miss those precious moments. SRSLY Oh, my. When my first little guy was a few months old, I upgraded from a P&S to a Pentax K100DS, and I had to work hard on that justification. The D3x just makes no sense whatsoever. $7000 for a camera that's not going to be as useful as the $3000 D800, when even the D800 is overkill for kids shots alone. I would suggest almost any camera, and any entry-level model before the D3x for someone who's never shot before. The $6000 he could have saved could have gone into a college fund or bonds for that kid... If he wants to really get into the hobby outside of kid shooting, or just really, really loves expensive gear, maybe it makes more sense, but still... Makes me wonder if he got guilt-sold into something he doesn't need by an aggressive, less-than-honest camera store employee. .