Originally posted by pinholecam Yes, but neither one of these new FF models are anything remotely similar to the A850 and A900, not that those were bad bodies at all. What if everyone judged Pentax only on what they put out 2-3 years ago...K-m/K-7?
>> It does more than you'd think.
As I've mentioned, Sony released 2 FF options before this. One was at a great price. CZ glass.
All wrt competitors offerings at that same point of time (so I don't see how you draw that line of argument of Km/K7)
The previous cameras did not make much of a dent on Canikon FF market dominance.
Now, these 2 new offerings don't have that much over Canikon just like before.
The RX1 may catch the attention of some, but ~$2.8k does not fall readily off the hands of most ppl already trying to save of a $1500 advanced APS-C or FF (ie, in the price range of a 5DII; D700; D600 and the A850/A900)
In other words, to go FF, its the same large commitment of money as was just before this with the above listed cameras (ie, 5DII, D700, etc at current prices).
So to play it safe, Canikon will be the prime choice for ppl, since they will be spending a substantial sum.
If the RX1 was the FF NEX, then yes, I'd think it having something significant over Canikon to break the status quo.
But at this moment. No.
With the RX1, there is nothing to compare it to in that category, so it is priced what it is They seem to be selling very well according to the pre-orders. Same with the A99, it is priced just right for what it is, certainly more robust than the D600 and the upcoming 6D.
Either way you look at it and no matter if you like Sony or not, what they are doing is bringing fresh and innovative product out on the market lighting a fire under other companies and the benefits will be for everyone.
>> FF NEX, yes, innovative, something the others don't offer now.
By M mount users alone, I think a FF NEX will already make a killing profit.
SLT FF, RX1, does not bring as much to the market.
RX1 may seem to sell well now, but don't forget that the US has good/lax customer return laws.
Ppl can choose to try and return.
Anyway, ~$2800 is not a small sum.
If you think there will be a sustained high level of buyer interest in a FF compact camera that is your choice to believe it.
I doubt it based on how "easy" it is to part with ~$2800, and how most folks have to save/struggle to get a higher end DSLR/ILC of any brand.
I liken it to the Fuji X100 (not cheap too at launch for a fixed lens aps-c camera)
Be an early adopter and bask in the limelight for a year.
Then be overshadowed by the interchangeable lens versions (ie. Xpro1; XE-1) in such a short span of time.
I am not planning on buying one, for reasons other than price, but that does not mean it's not a very cool little camera. If they release one with a standard zoom, maybe...Or perhaps they will release a future model with a G series lens for a thousand less?
My 5N is good enough for my needs anyway.
Jason