Nikon D7100

Sol Invictus · 02-20-2013, 08:05 PM

It looks pretty damn good. And it appears they are merging the D300 and D7000 lines.

Highlights:

- pro AF system similar to D300
- build of the D300 (magnesium alloy)
- 24 MP sensor
- dual SD card slots
- No AA filter
- $1200!!! (According to Nasim Mansurov)

Last edited by Sol Invictus; 02-20-2013 at 08:12 PM.

Adam · 02-20-2013, 08:32 PM

Yup, this is right, minus the AA filter thing. Here's the official announcement which will go live in a couple of hours:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/news/nikon-d7100-announced.html

I think the D600 is taking the place of the D300s, which really isn't surprising. Pro DX bodies have to be cheaper now, or else they just won't sell!

tuco · 02-20-2013, 08:49 PM

Jumping ahead. From the D7100 specs on Nikon Rumors:

Video: 1080p @ 60i/50i/30/25/24 fps plus 720p @ 60i/50i/30/25/24 fps plus 720p @ 60p

Maybe someone into video more than me can interrupt that line for me. 1080p (progressive video) at 60i (interlaced) ... fps ????

And 720p at 60p (progressive) ???

None of that makes sense to me.

Adam · 02-20-2013, 08:58 PM

60i (i is for interlaced) means you basically only get half the picture every frame as even/odd pixels alternate sampling. With 60p, you get the whole frame 60 times a second. AFAIK you get the best image quality with p, and the files are larger, but not everything can take advantage of 60p, so it's not always worth it.

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**Ash** · 02-20-2013, 09:04 PM

Needs a lot more processing speed, write speed and storage, but 60p is a welcome advance. Especially in HD.

Lurch · 02-20-2013, 09:05 PM

possible price point for the K3 perhaps?

deadwolfbones · 02-20-2013, 09:15 PM

Nikon Returns to the High-End APS-C Market with the D7100 - DigitalCamerainfo.com

Kind of a headshot to the K-5 IIs, I fear.

1.3x crop mode hugging the AF grid is pretty cool for sports guys.

tuco · 02-20-2013, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by Adam

60i (i is for interlaced) means you basically only get half the picture every frame as even/odd pixels alternate sampling. With 60p, you get the whole frame 60 times a second. AFAIK you get the best image quality with p, and the files are larger, but not everything can take advantage of 60p, so it's not always worth it.

Thanks. But still I'm confused. 1080 progressive video at 60/50 interlace still does not make sense to me. Video is either progressive or interlace ( who wants that problematic interlace format anymore). What makes sense to me is 1080/720p at some frames per second or 1080/720i at some frames per second.

bossa · 02-20-2013, 09:38 PM

K-3 in two forms is predicted for April 2013
Japanese magazine Nippon Camera predictions for 2013 | Photo Rumors

deadwolfbones · 02-20-2013, 09:41 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by bossa

K-3 in two forms is predicted for April 2013
Japanese magazine Nippon Camera predictions for 2013 | Photo Rumors

I'll believe it when I see it.

bossa · 02-20-2013, 09:45 PM

I wouldn't mind a D7100 for my AF-S 300/4 though. I can see Pentax falling off the planet if they don't respond soon. Those two guys featured in the interview don't offer any confidence really... they give the impression that Pentax is still trying to make up it's mind about things.

sb in ak · 02-20-2013, 09:52 PM

Specs look great. Hopefully Pentax has an answer to this soon.

cali92rs · 02-20-2013, 10:16 PM

51 point AF system vs 11 point. C'mon Pentax.

jpyykonen · 02-20-2013, 10:23 PM

Wow. Now I'm impressed. Not many times I've been when there are new releases but now I am. If Pentax wants to stay in the game it needs to beat that. And at that price point I just cannot believe it. Nikon selling volumes are that much bigger than Pentax that I just can't believe Pentax will match that at that price point. That may well be the camera that puts Pentax "out of the game" for some time. Unless Pentax pulls some kind of miracle out of the hat. It did it once with K-5, now the bar is MUCH higher.

Pentikonian · 02-20-2013, 10:58 PM

Well, I don't believe Pentax needs to play one-ups-manship - some of the features with the D7100 are already present with Pentax. Robust build, weather resistant body... plus the K-5 has great ergonomics and IQ. So build on the existing strengths and take care of the small QC nits like button issues. And keep the body design the same (or close enough) so that existing batteries and accessories carry on to the new model - saving upgrading customers some cash.

In order to compete with the D7100 Pentax needs to ensure their AF accuracy, speed, and the ability to accurately track moving objects is at least close to the D7100's.

Then include a viewfinder comparable to the old Nikon D2 series bodies. I have no idea why none of the manufacturers will do this with APS-C - even Nikon (well, actually it costs a bit more and is more difficult to make, larger). It's a step that would set the K-3 apart from the herd and improve things a bit for those who enjoy using manual focus legacy glass.

Make sure the K-3 has dual card slots and a larger buffer than the D7100.

Unfortunately I think Pentax has the K-3 pretty much already planned out, and it would be difficult to adjust without delaying release and doing some redesign.

Just some thoughts from a hobbyist, so IMHO and YMMV.

02-20-2013, 08:05 PM	#1
Sol Invictus Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Calgary, Alberta Photos: Gallery Posts: 392	Nikon D7100 It looks pretty damn good. And it appears they are merging the D300 and D7000 lines. Highlights: - pro AF system similar to D300 - build of the D300 (magnesium alloy) - 24 MP sensor - dual SD card slots - No AA filter - $1200!!! (According to Nasim Mansurov) Last edited by Sol Invictus; 02-20-2013 at 08:12 PM.

02-20-2013, 08:32 PM	#2
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,608	Yup, this is right, minus the AA filter thing. Here's the official announcement which will go live in a couple of hours: https://www.pentaxforums.com/news/nikon-d7100-announced.html I think the D600 is taking the place of the D300s, which really isn't surprising. Pro DX bodies have to be cheaper now, or else they just won't sell! Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

02-20-2013, 08:49 PM	#3
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,030	Jumping ahead. From the D7100 specs on Nikon Rumors: Video: 1080p @ 60i/50i/30/25/24 fps plus 720p @ 60i/50i/30/25/24 fps plus 720p @ 60p Maybe someone into video more than me can interrupt that line for me. 1080p (progressive video) at 60i (interlaced) ... fps ???? And 720p at 60p (progressive) ??? None of that makes sense to me.

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02-20-2013, 08:58 PM	#4
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,608	60i (i is for interlaced) means you basically only get half the picture every frame as even/odd pixels alternate sampling. With 60p, you get the whole frame 60 times a second. AFAIK you get the best image quality with p, and the files are larger, but not everything can take advantage of 60p, so it's not always worth it. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

02-20-2013, 09:04 PM	#5
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	Needs a lot more processing speed, write speed and storage, but 60p is a welcome advance. Especially in HD.

02-20-2013, 09:05 PM	#6
Lurch Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Canberra, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 582	possible price point for the K3 perhaps?

02-20-2013, 09:15 PM	#7
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 7,451	Nikon Returns to the High-End APS-C Market with the D7100 - DigitalCamerainfo.com Kind of a headshot to the K-5 IIs, I fear. 1.3x crop mode hugging the AF grid is pretty cool for sports guys.

02-20-2013, 09:20 PM	#8
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,030	Originally posted by Adam 60i (i is for interlaced) means you basically only get half the picture every frame as even/odd pixels alternate sampling. With 60p, you get the whole frame 60 times a second. AFAIK you get the best image quality with p, and the files are larger, but not everything can take advantage of 60p, so it's not always worth it. Thanks. But still I'm confused. 1080 progressive video at 60/50 interlace still does not make sense to me. Video is either progressive or interlace ( who wants that problematic interlace format anymore). What makes sense to me is 1080/720p at some frames per second or 1080/720i at some frames per second.

02-20-2013, 09:38 PM	#9
bossa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Adelaide Posts: 4,546	K-3 in two forms is predicted for April 2013 Japanese magazine Nippon Camera predictions for 2013 \| Photo Rumors

02-20-2013, 09:41 PM - 1 Like	#10
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 7,451	Originally posted by bossa K-3 in two forms is predicted for April 2013 Japanese magazine Nippon Camera predictions for 2013 \| Photo Rumors I'll believe it when I see it.

02-20-2013, 09:45 PM	#11
bossa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Adelaide Posts: 4,546	I wouldn't mind a D7100 for my AF-S 300/4 though. I can see Pentax falling off the planet if they don't respond soon. Those two guys featured in the interview don't offer any confidence really... they give the impression that Pentax is still trying to make up it's mind about things.

02-20-2013, 09:52 PM	#12
sb in ak Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Omaha, NE Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 612	Specs look great. Hopefully Pentax has an answer to this soon.

02-20-2013, 10:16 PM	#13
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	51 point AF system vs 11 point. C'mon Pentax.

02-20-2013, 10:23 PM	#14
jpyykonen Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 191	Wow. Now I'm impressed. Not many times I've been when there are new releases but now I am. If Pentax wants to stay in the game it needs to beat that. And at that price point I just cannot believe it. Nikon selling volumes are that much bigger than Pentax that I just can't believe Pentax will match that at that price point. That may well be the camera that puts Pentax "out of the game" for some time. Unless Pentax pulls some kind of miracle out of the hat. It did it once with K-5, now the bar is MUCH higher.

02-20-2013, 10:58 PM	#15
Pentikonian Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 780	Well, I don't believe Pentax needs to play one-ups-manship - some of the features with the D7100 are already present with Pentax. Robust build, weather resistant body... plus the K-5 has great ergonomics and IQ. So build on the existing strengths and take care of the small QC nits like button issues. And keep the body design the same (or close enough) so that existing batteries and accessories carry on to the new model - saving upgrading customers some cash. In order to compete with the D7100 Pentax needs to ensure their AF accuracy, speed, and the ability to accurately track moving objects is at least close to the D7100's. Then include a viewfinder comparable to the old Nikon D2 series bodies. I have no idea why none of the manufacturers will do this with APS-C - even Nikon (well, actually it costs a bit more and is more difficult to make, larger). It's a step that would set the K-3 apart from the herd and improve things a bit for those who enjoy using manual focus legacy glass. Make sure the K-3 has dual card slots and a larger buffer than the D7100. Unfortunately I think Pentax has the K-3 pretty much already planned out, and it would be difficult to adjust without delaying release and doing some redesign. Just some thoughts from a hobbyist, so IMHO and YMMV.