Nikon Coolpix A: 28mm effective APS-C compact

ogl · 03-07-2013, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by cali92rs

That's the trade...size vs wider FOV vs max aperture. Can't really have all three unless you use a smaller sensor.
Can't please everyone.

GXR A12 28/2.5 could.

cali92rs · 03-07-2013, 07:22 AM

Originally posted by ogl

GXR A12 28/2.5 could.

It could...what?
Satisfy everyone? It isn't small nor is it the f2.0 that others have mentioned.

ogl · 03-07-2013, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by cali92rs

It could...what?
Satisfy everyone? It isn't small nor is it the f2.0 that others have mentioned.

It's small and f2.5 is good. And a bit faster than Nikon A lens.

cali92rs · 03-07-2013, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by ogl

It's small and f2.5 is good. And a bit faster than Nikon A lens.

Is it really that small? I would like to see a picture of one in someone's hands.

cali92rs · 03-07-2013, 03:07 PM

Honestly the GXR has been on my radar for a while, especially for this 28mm module.
I am holding onto my K28 f2.0 for the day i can use it on full frame :/

memo90061 · 03-07-2013, 11:25 PM

I'd be tempted to buy it at 700. It would be great at concerts when DSLRs aren't allowed.

Jasvox · 03-08-2013, 01:43 AM

Originally posted by memo90061

I'd be tempted to buy it at 700. It would be great at concerts when DSLRs aren't allowed.

You could do the same with the NEX-5 or 3 and have way more options for lenses. Believe it or not, the NEX is actually smaller than the Nikon. With the pancacke zoom, the NEX fits into most pockets and delivers K-5 like quality.

Compare camera dimensions side by side

Jason

pinholecam · 03-08-2013, 03:31 AM

Design needs some work, imo.

Other than that, its another one of those latest and greatest gadgets that allow one to bask in the envy of photographic peers for about 6mths.
Then feel like the sucker who paid too high price as the prices drops considerably and a ILC version comes out (like X100).

There are a lot of cameras doing about the same stuff with various form factors, fixed lens or ILC with various sensor sizes (m4/3; nex; advanced pns; )
APS-C sensor, yeah, but too high a price and fixed lens, so its a niche camera.

Of course the general public does not know all this.
All that will be pushed to them through marketing is that its a cool aps-c sensor with a fast lens and wide angle (to take their group shots with).
and it 'takes good photos for them'.

Jonathan Mac · 03-08-2013, 04:51 AM

28mm is too wide for a compact with a fixed prime. 35mm is the absolute widest I would consider in this type of camera, otherwise it's just not useful as a general purpose camera.

cali92rs · 03-08-2013, 07:54 AM

Originally posted by Jonathan Mac

28mm is too wide for a compact with a fixed prime. 35mm is the absolute widest I would consider in this type of camera, otherwise it's just not useful as a general purpose camera.

I respectfully disagree. You can always crop to get a tighter image. The opposite is not true.

memo90061 · 03-08-2013, 12:29 PM

Wow the NEX is pretty small! The thing is at concerts I've been at they consider anything with a removable lens a professional camera, and won't allow them. Sometimes the rule says no cameras with interchangeable lenses, and they do enforce them most of the time in Los Angeles.

JinDesu · 03-08-2013, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by memo90061

Wow the NEX is pretty small! The thing is at concerts I've been at they consider anything with a removable lens a professional camera, and won't allow them. Sometimes the rule says no cameras with interchangeable lenses, and they do enforce them most of the time in Los Angeles.

To be honest, no one is going to figure out the NEX is an ILC unless they really know cameras. It's quirky and small enough looking that people think it's just an odd P&S.

Usually the ILC rule is directed specifically at DSLRs.

memo90061 · 03-08-2013, 12:55 PM

It happened to me once with an E-PL2, and a 14mm pancake.

JinDesu · 03-08-2013, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by memo90061

It happened to me once with an E-PL2, and a 14mm pancake.

You have got to be one seriously unlucky person

My condolences!

memo90061 · 03-08-2013, 01:36 PM

I think so, which is why I want to be sure and have a camera with a big sensor without a removable lens. haha.

I bought a Sony RX100 for concerts, and it's been really good. I'd like to try the Nikon, but it's so expensive.

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03-07-2013, 12:41 AM	#31
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by cali92rs That's the trade...size vs wider FOV vs max aperture. Can't really have all three unless you use a smaller sensor. Can't please everyone. GXR A12 28/2.5 could.

03-07-2013, 07:22 AM	#32
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	Originally posted by ogl GXR A12 28/2.5 could. It could...what? Satisfy everyone? It isn't small nor is it the f2.0 that others have mentioned.

03-07-2013, 12:58 PM	#33
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by cali92rs It could...what? Satisfy everyone? It isn't small nor is it the f2.0 that others have mentioned. It's small and f2.5 is good. And a bit faster than Nikon A lens.

03-07-2013, 02:56 PM	#34
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	Originally posted by ogl It's small and f2.5 is good. And a bit faster than Nikon A lens. Is it really that small? I would like to see a picture of one in someone's hands.

03-07-2013, 03:07 PM	#35
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	Honestly the GXR has been on my radar for a while, especially for this 28mm module. I am holding onto my K28 f2.0 for the day i can use it on full frame :/

03-07-2013, 11:25 PM	#36
memo90061 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 218	I'd be tempted to buy it at 700. It would be great at concerts when DSLRs aren't allowed.

03-08-2013, 01:43 AM	#37
Jasvox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3,107	Originally posted by memo90061 I'd be tempted to buy it at 700. It would be great at concerts when DSLRs aren't allowed. You could do the same with the NEX-5 or 3 and have way more options for lenses. Believe it or not, the NEX is actually smaller than the Nikon. With the pancacke zoom, the NEX fits into most pockets and delivers K-5 like quality. Compare camera dimensions side by side Jason

03-08-2013, 03:31 AM	#38
pinholecam Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,706	Design needs some work, imo. Other than that, its another one of those latest and greatest gadgets that allow one to bask in the envy of photographic peers for about 6mths. Then feel like the sucker who paid too high price as the prices drops considerably and a ILC version comes out (like X100). There are a lot of cameras doing about the same stuff with various form factors, fixed lens or ILC with various sensor sizes (m4/3; nex; advanced pns; ) APS-C sensor, yeah, but too high a price and fixed lens, so its a niche camera. Of course the general public does not know all this. All that will be pushed to them through marketing is that its a cool aps-c sensor with a fast lens and wide angle (to take their group shots with). and it 'takes good photos for them'.

03-08-2013, 04:51 AM	#39
Jonathan Mac Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 10,897	28mm is too wide for a compact with a fixed prime. 35mm is the absolute widest I would consider in this type of camera, otherwise it's just not useful as a general purpose camera.

03-08-2013, 07:54 AM	#40
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	Originally posted by Jonathan Mac 28mm is too wide for a compact with a fixed prime. 35mm is the absolute widest I would consider in this type of camera, otherwise it's just not useful as a general purpose camera. I respectfully disagree. You can always crop to get a tighter image. The opposite is not true.

03-08-2013, 12:29 PM	#41
memo90061 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 218	Wow the NEX is pretty small! The thing is at concerts I've been at they consider anything with a removable lens a professional camera, and won't allow them. Sometimes the rule says no cameras with interchangeable lenses, and they do enforce them most of the time in Los Angeles.

03-08-2013, 12:51 PM	#42
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Originally posted by memo90061 Wow the NEX is pretty small! The thing is at concerts I've been at they consider anything with a removable lens a professional camera, and won't allow them. Sometimes the rule says no cameras with interchangeable lenses, and they do enforce them most of the time in Los Angeles. To be honest, no one is going to figure out the NEX is an ILC unless they really know cameras. It's quirky and small enough looking that people think it's just an odd P&S. Usually the ILC rule is directed specifically at DSLRs.

03-08-2013, 12:55 PM	#43
memo90061 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 218	It happened to me once with an E-PL2, and a 14mm pancake.

03-08-2013, 01:22 PM	#44
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Originally posted by memo90061 It happened to me once with an E-PL2, and a 14mm pancake. You have got to be one seriously unlucky person My condolences!

03-08-2013, 01:36 PM	#45
memo90061 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 218	I think so, which is why I want to be sure and have a camera with a big sensor without a removable lens. haha. I bought a Sony RX100 for concerts, and it's been really good. I'd like to try the Nikon, but it's so expensive.