Canon releases the world's most compact and lightweight APS-C DSLR

Clicker · 03-21-2013, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by Jonathan Mac

Canon have always been behind in sensors, at least in APS-C. When I bought my K200D (just after it was discontinued) I remember being surprised that it was rated the best APS-C sensor on the market aside from the one in the Nikon D90. It was ahead of all the Canon sensors, even in the pro APS-C bodies. I think if you check now you'll find something similar when compared to newer sensors from Sony, and maybe others.

However, the big problem with Canon is the very poor build quality for the money you pay.

k200d had a ccd sensor the last one from pentax (aps) I think? that was a beautiful sensor and a great camera...something those phaseone backs remind me of.

junyo · 03-21-2013, 06:31 PM

Want to know the biggest difference between this camera and the K-x?

It will be in every B&M camera outlet in the world a couple of weeks after release. I won't have to drive an hour and a half to touch one. It will have more modern lenses available. It will have a modern flash system available. And it will have a clear upgrade path.

Really, even if it's complete crap, when you're the 800 lbs gorilla, you can get away with releasing crap. In fact, you very well could sell a few million units of crap. And odds are, it's not crap. I mean, they probably won't sell it in a range of wacky colors, but even so, it probably will take decent pictures for the soccer moms and dads that are it's target market.

ogl · 03-21-2013, 08:35 PM

I don't see any sense to make so light and small DSLR. It's EVIL's zone.

Old K-x is just a bit bigger. By the way.

axl · 03-22-2013, 01:49 AM

Originally posted by Jonathan Mac

Canon have always been behind in sensors, at least in APS-C. When I bought my K200D (just after it was discontinued) I remember being surprised that it was rated the best APS-C sensor on the market aside from the one in the Nikon D90. It was ahead of all the Canon sensors, even in the pro APS-C bodies. I think if you check now you'll find something similar when compared to newer sensors from Sony, and maybe others.

However, the big problem with Canon is the very poor build quality for the money you pay.

thee K200D sensor was great indeed. It was the last version of the sensor seen in K10D, D80 and D200. I loved it in K10D and I don't think Pentax had camera with better sensor until K-5IIs came out.

as far as the build quality goes, these cameras are meant to last a year, maybe 2 then they want you to buy the newer and better anyway, so why bother...

Samsungian · 03-22-2013, 06:11 AM

Wow, t5i has articulated screen thats offers touch screen control too.

I look foward to these two features moving upstream in full frame format from either Canon or Nikon.

I think this is first interchangeable lens Canon camera with touch screen.

Canon EOS Rebel T5i DSLR Camera (Body Only) 8595B001 B&H Photo

Looks like it's direct competition against Panasonic's EVIL cameras.

junyo · 03-22-2013, 06:18 AM

Originally posted by Samsungian

Wow, t5i has articulated screen thats offers touch screen control too.

I look foward to these two features moving upstream in full frame format.

I think this is first interchangeable lens Canon camera with touch screen.

Canon EOS Rebel T5i DSLR Camera (Body Only) 8595B001 B&H Photo

Looks like direct competition against Panasonic's cameras.

Nope, the previous version already had a touchscreen.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-650d-rebel-t4i

Samsungian · 03-22-2013, 06:25 AM

I had no idea Canon already offered touchscreen dslr.

Thanks !

Originally posted by junyo

Nope, the previous version already had a touchscreen.
Canon EOS 650D/Rebel T4i In-Depth Review: Digital Photography Review

rawr · 03-25-2013, 06:00 AM

Originally posted by ogl

Old K-x is just a bit bigger. By the way.

The K-x looks better

And is still just about identical in overall size.

Also note how the Canon has practically no grip, making it almost impossible to hold in one hand and operate one handed, unlike the K-x. Not very good design.

Pepe Le Pew · 03-25-2013, 04:43 PM

I'll stick to my k-30

Canon SL1 vs Pentax K-30 - Our Analysis

03-22-2013, 06:11 AM	#50
Samsungian Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado USA Posts: 1,337	Wow, t5i has articulated screen thats offers touch screen control too. I look foward to these two features moving upstream in full frame format from either Canon or Nikon. I think this is first interchangeable lens Canon camera with touch screen. Canon EOS Rebel T5i DSLR Camera (Body Only) 8595B001 B&H Photo Looks like it's direct competition against Panasonic's EVIL cameras. Last edited by Samsungian; 03-22-2013 at 06:19 AM.

03-25-2013, 04:43 PM	#54
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03-21-2013, 06:16 PM	#46
Clicker Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,241	Originally posted by Jonathan Mac Canon have always been behind in sensors, at least in APS-C. When I bought my K200D (just after it was discontinued) I remember being surprised that it was rated the best APS-C sensor on the market aside from the one in the Nikon D90. It was ahead of all the Canon sensors, even in the pro APS-C bodies. I think if you check now you'll find something similar when compared to newer sensors from Sony, and maybe others. However, the big problem with Canon is the very poor build quality for the money you pay. k200d had a ccd sensor the last one from pentax (aps) I think? that was a beautiful sensor and a great camera...something those phaseone backs remind me of.

03-21-2013, 06:31 PM	#47
junyo Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 418	Want to know the biggest difference between this camera and the K-x? It will be in every B&M camera outlet in the world a couple of weeks after release. I won't have to drive an hour and a half to touch one. It will have more modern lenses available. It will have a modern flash system available. And it will have a clear upgrade path. Really, even if it's complete crap, when you're the 800 lbs gorilla, you can get away with releasing crap. In fact, you very well could sell a few million units of crap. And odds are, it's not crap. I mean, they probably won't sell it in a range of wacky colors, but even so, it probably will take decent pictures for the soccer moms and dads that are it's target market.

03-21-2013, 08:35 PM	#48
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	I don't see any sense to make so light and small DSLR. It's EVIL's zone. Old K-x is just a bit bigger. By the way.

03-22-2013, 01:49 AM	#49
axl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nove Zamky, Slovakia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,183	Originally posted by Jonathan Mac Canon have always been behind in sensors, at least in APS-C. When I bought my K200D (just after it was discontinued) I remember being surprised that it was rated the best APS-C sensor on the market aside from the one in the Nikon D90. It was ahead of all the Canon sensors, even in the pro APS-C bodies. I think if you check now you'll find something similar when compared to newer sensors from Sony, and maybe others. However, the big problem with Canon is the very poor build quality for the money you pay. thee K200D sensor was great indeed. It was the last version of the sensor seen in K10D, D80 and D200. I loved it in K10D and I don't think Pentax had camera with better sensor until K-5IIs came out. as far as the build quality goes, these cameras are meant to last a year, maybe 2 then they want you to buy the newer and better anyway, so why bother...

03-22-2013, 06:18 AM	#51
junyo Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 418	Originally posted by Samsungian Wow, t5i has articulated screen thats offers touch screen control too. I look foward to these two features moving upstream in full frame format. I think this is first interchangeable lens Canon camera with touch screen. Canon EOS Rebel T5i DSLR Camera (Body Only) 8595B001 B&H Photo Looks like direct competition against Panasonic's cameras. Nope, the previous version already had a touchscreen. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-650d-rebel-t4i

03-22-2013, 06:25 AM	#52
Samsungian Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado USA Posts: 1,337	I had no idea Canon already offered touchscreen dslr. Thanks ! Originally posted by junyo Nope, the previous version already had a touchscreen. Canon EOS 650D/Rebel T4i In-Depth Review: Digital Photography Review

03-25-2013, 06:00 AM	#53
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by ogl Old K-x is just a bit bigger. By the way. The K-x looks better And is still just about identical in overall size. Also note how the Canon has practically no grip, making it almost impossible to hold in one hand and operate one handed, unlike the K-x. Not very good design.

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