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05-03-2013, 10:47 AM   #46
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That brings up another issue then. If I end up buying the DP1, DP2 and DP3, I should have just bought the SD1 with a 16-50 if it's available. On the other hand, if I'm happy with one of the others then I save a lot of money, and space and weight. There's just no easy answers in life. We're taking a couple friends out on a trip covering the next two weekends so, we won't be able to make it down. I'll have to make a decision about these Merrils before my tax return comes in.

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Boy you really nailed that church shot.
Thanks.
SD1M costs $2300 in Canada ! It is only $1800 incl delivery in Australia.

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Some advantages of SD1M:
- body built like k-5, magnesium alloy (maybe WP)
- ergonomics reminds k-5
- shot clicking is even softer than k-5




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From the poultry swap today:
What a perfect way to show what the Foveon can do! Also, I agree that the DP's are the perfect way to get introduced to the sensor. It's not a bother to take it with you everywhere, all the time.

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Some advantages of SD1M:
- body built like k-5, magnesium alloy (maybe WP)
- ergonomics reminds k-5
- shot clicking is even softer than k-5
Advantages of DP2M:
  • Essentially silent
  • Highly portable
  • Same sensor as SD1M

Disadvantages:
  • Slow as %&#@
  • High-ISO pics are... special
  • You're gonna need more batteries

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St. John's Cathedral
Dang, I don't know if I can beat that. Okay... I see your Cathedral, and raise you a... warehouse. I'm sorry, this city has no history to contrast with the gleaming glass and concrete. I just moved here in November, and that warehouse was not there then. I guess you gotta work with what you're given, eh? Those clouds were definitely a gift. They might be the first ones I've seen since I bought this camera. I'm gonna need some before July hits.



05-07-2013, 03:46 AM   #50
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The warehouse and clouds are quite expressive




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05-07-2013, 04:04 AM   #51
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QuoteOriginally posted by scratchpaddy Quote
What a perfect way to show what the Foveon can do! Also, I agree that the DP's are the perfect way to get introduced to the sensor. It's not a bother to take it with you everywhere, all the time.



Advantages of DP2M:
  • Essentially silent
  • Highly portable
  • Same sensor as SD1M

Disadvantages:
  • Slow as %&#@
  • High-ISO pics are... special
  • You're gonna need more batteries



Dang, I don't know if I can beat that. Okay... I see your Cathedral, and raise you a... warehouse. I'm sorry, this city has no history to contrast with the gleaming glass and concrete. I just moved here in November, and that warehouse was not there then. I guess you gotta work with what you're given, eh? Those clouds were definitely a gift. They might be the first ones I've seen since I bought this camera. I'm gonna need some before July hits.
Whats going on with the clouds that have been blown out, they have straight horizontal lines going through them ??
Is this typical with blown out details on this type of sensor?
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they have straight horizontal lines going through them
That is sunlights (diagonal lines)!

Also, SD1M has ovf without parallax, I like it more than k-5's.


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A couple from the recent Toronto "Pentaxians" (and other camera brands) meetup to see the cherry blossoms in a local park. Another guy from this forum had his DP2 Merrill as well, and mine was "borrowed" for a while.
(FYI: The model is dressed up like an animé character called "Sakura Li.")





*Couldn't recover the blown out sky, and forgot to AEBracket!
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QuoteOriginally posted by bvg Quote
That is sunlights (diagonal lines)!

Also, SD1M has ovf without parallax, I like it more than k-5's.
No im not talking about the diagonal sun light in the clouds. In the blown out areas of clouds there is lots of horizontal lines.
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For what it's worth, I don't see any horizontal lines in the blown out areas of the clouds.
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QuoteOriginally posted by TOUGEFC Quote
No im not talking about the diagonal sun light in the clouds. In the blown out areas of clouds there is lots of horizontal lines.
You might need to check your monitor. I downloaded the file and used a variety of tools on it, and there are no horizontal (or vertical) lines that are not part of the objects in the image (so no "artefacts").

Using "Threshold" is the easiest way to see minor variations in tone or color, per pixel, by moving up or down the histogram. See this screen movie for the results.

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The warehouse and clouds are quite expressive

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Thanks! Careful taking pictures at the mall. I got busted last time I tried to do that. Are you going to make Mom sparkle with the Perfect Gift?

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No im not talking about the diagonal sun light in the clouds. In the blown out areas of clouds there is lots of horizontal lines.
I'm stumped. It seems you're the only one seeing this. I would give you the semi-original .tiff, but I'm not sure how to send you an 84mb file.

I've never seen issues with highlights, but you could say this sensor has an issue with shadows, where green and magenta color banding tends to appear, especially at high ISO levels (David posted a great example of this a few pages ago). I shot the warehouse pic at ISO 100. A tiny bit of green banding appeared in the shadows, but only after I boosted the crap out of the saturation and did a bunch of shadow recovery. It isn't visible at web size.

@panoguy, I love the lighting in those two pictures you posted! That's the golden hour, right? I don't think the white sky detracts from the second picture. It's always hard to get both the sky and the ground exposed when the sun is that low. In the warehouse picture, I underexposed it by about one stop and restored the shadows in Lightroom. I'm amazed at how well that shadow slider works.

Here's another picture to keep it going. This dog isn't happy until every bowl is completely empty of water. I wonder what would happen if you gave him a whole pool?



Gotta wash the ball off...

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Love black and white from foveon sensors.
I feel like that picture could have lots of vibrant spring colors in it, but somehow, I don't miss them. It looks perfect without them. Nicely done. Very mysterious. Or maybe it's just the music I'm listening to that's making everything look dark and mysterious? Nothing like theremin and B&W!

Okay, now I want to play!

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QuoteOriginally posted by panoguy Quote
You might need to check your monitor. I downloaded the file and used a variety of tools on it, and there are no horizontal (or vertical) lines that are not part of the objects in the image (so no "artefacts").
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I'm stumped. It seems you're the only one seeing this. I would give you the semi-original .tiff, but I'm not sure how to send you an 84mb file.
I've never seen issues with highlights, but you could say this sensor has an issue with shadows, where green and magenta color banding tends to appear, especially at high ISO levels (David posted a great example of this a few pages ago). I shot the warehouse pic at ISO 100. A tiny bit of green banding appeared in the shadows, but only after I boosted the crap out of the saturation and did a bunch of shadow recovery. It isn't visible at web size.
Yes it is quite strange, Im only seeing it on that photo and not on any other, its just in the blown out areas..
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I can not see anything too.



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