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10-13-2013, 10:08 AM   #31
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I get this sense that i'm watching photographic history being made. No, its not the first mirrorless FF ILC camera, but its probably the first popular mirrorless FF ILC. Thousands of photographers will be able to pull out their old Pentax, Nikon, Canon film lenses and mount them on a digital FF body for the relatively low cost of $1700. It worked for the APS Nex so why not the FF Nex??? And we have Nikon and Canon to thank for letting Sony get there first

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I understand how a Pentax user would be interested in this A7/A7r since Pentax currently does not have a FF camera. For the Nikon/Canon user looking for a economical FF, I fail to see the value in the Sony over a D600 or 6D. What am I missing?
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Ughh. Go back to design school pls, Sony.
oh yeah, now I can get a 2200 weather sealed FF body, much smaller than m240........but it's just not pretty.

For all I care it can be pink with hello kitty stickers burned into the magnesium. If it works with wide M glass, it's a godsend.
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QuoteOriginally posted by DanWeso Quote
I understand how a Pentax user would be interested in this A7/A7r since Pentax currently does not have a FF camera. For the Nikon/Canon user looking for a economical FF, I fail to see the value in the Sony over a D600 or 6D. What am I missing?
Size/form factor, price per megapixel, adaptability of older lenses

You give up the great lens lineups that these two companies have (at least if you want AF). Also, AF with the sony/zeiss lenses won't come close to nikon/canon dslrs.

Still there is something compelling about it, I'm not the least bit interested in the a7 but the a7r packing such a great sensor in a small body is really appealing.

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My Leica M3 isn't explicitly mentioned as being weatherproof - though it has been dropped in snow, water,sand and I sill use it ( though it has been serviced quite a few times over the years)

Weather resistance is much more important with digital technologies these days because there are so many components that are so easily damaged by dust, humidity, and shock. Older film cameras tend to be considerably more robust than their digital counterparts.

So when it comes to dunking a camera in a bucket of water and being able to use it afterward, would the new new MILC from Sony survive? or the Pentax LX? - My money is on the Pentax LX.
Here is a video shot using the NEX6 plus kit lens that included the camera being soaked in water. My NEX6 still functions perfectly. I also regularly use my Action Cam in the rain outside the waterproof housing.
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For all I care it can be pink with hello kitty stickers burned into the magnesium.
If Christine gets one, that's exactly how it will look
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If Christine gets one, that's exactly how it will look
Yeah, well, I didn't want to say anything ...


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I was at Kinokuniya last week. I almost picked up some of those.
But for cuteness, I prefer Rilakkuma, as apparently does Pentax.

I can't wait for a Rilakkuma K-3, with matching grip.
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They make a cute couple
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Low resolution A7r-A7 image. Both do have same body

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Important: Be sure to be online on SonyAlphaRumors.com at 5-6am on Wednesday (London time) to follow the A7-A7r and RX10 announcement live on SAR! As usual I will continually update you with links to tests, image samples, interviews and first preorder links worldwide!

Images: The image on top shows you the A7 and A7r. As you can see the body is the same but the A7r has a red r mark. The A7r has also the Zeiss 24-70mm f/4.0 OSS on it! While the A7 has the Sony 28-70mm f/3.5-5.6 OSS.

Specs reminder: In case you are confused by the many rumors I posted lately here are the SR5 info on the cameras:
- A7 has 24 Megapixel sensor with Phase detecion AF
- A7r has 36 Megapixel with no on sensor Phase detection and no Anti Aliasing filter for maximum sharpness
- A7 body costs $1698 and $1998 with 28-70mm f/3.5-5.6 OSS lens. A7r costs $2198 body only.
- Both cameras have a fixed OLED EVF with 2,4 million dot resolution. Its the same used by the Olympus E-M1
- AF speed is faster than the RX series.
- Takes SD cards and uses the NEX battery
- A7/A7r Body is weather sealed
- 1/8000 shutter speed
- titlable LCD screen
- focus peaking
- Built-in Wifi and NFC
- Playmemories Camera Apps
- The menu interface is the same as the RX series (and not the one used by NEX cameras).
- optional vertical grip
- New LAEA Full Frame A to E-mount adapter
- Current NEX APS-C lenses will work in crop mode or Full Frame mode (with heavy vignetting or dark corners)

New FE lenses:
Zeiss FE 24-70mm f/4.0 OSS
Sony G 28-70mm f/3.5-5.6 OSS
Zeiss FE 35mm f/2.8
Zeiss FE 55mm f/1.8
Zeiss FE 70-200mm f/4.0 OSS (coming early 2014)
many more lenses coming the next 12 months (including fast primes).

RX10:
- 1 inch sensor camera
- fixed 24-200mm f/2.8 constant aperture lens
- $1298
(SR5) Low resolution A7r-A7 image. Both do have same body. | sonyalpharumors
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(SR5) Hot! First full size images of the A7 and A7r cameras with lenses! | sonyalpharumors

Looks ok to me, but then again I don't really sit and stare at the camera itself, rather the photos produce with it

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It looks like it has much better controls than most of the NEX line.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Clavius Quote
I think Ricoh ultimate answer to such cameras would be skipping 135mm altogether and market a mirrorless 645D with an 135mm format crop mode.
I would love to see a mirrorless 645.
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It looks like it has much better controls than most of the NEX line.
That has no-nonsense written all over it.
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That has no-nonsense written all over it.
Yes. It's pretty clean on the front. I want to see the back. I hope its not a touch screen with a lot of menu driven controls.
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