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10-12-2013, 08:10 PM   #1
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Anyone thinking of getting the new Sony A7 FF

Not to upset anyone..but the new Sony NEX A7 FF looks very interesting,as a body to use Pentax lenses on. At a price of A7 BODY $1,698.00, which may drop to as they usually do soon after release,it is very tempting. I think for wide angle landscape work & portraits/street work it would be perfect to compliment the K5II,for the longer focal lengths. from what I read its easy to adapt K mount and even DA lenses to Sony E mount. Lack of IBIS would not be an issue for wide angle work at all, as low light sensitivity is increased. Any thoughts on this?? as may be long time before Pentax gets their FF out.

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If I didn't already have the full frame Sony NEX-VG900 I would get the A7 but after using the adjustable angled OLED EVF on my VG900 I much prefer it over a fixed EVF that looks like is in the A7.

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some think the Sony EVF is removable,but probably wifi controlled so one can use a tablet to compose/shoot as well... I like the A7 for its size..must see what the reviews say
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QuoteOriginally posted by Shanti Quote
Not to upset anyone..but the new Sony NEX A7 FF looks very interesting,as a body to use Pentax lenses on. At a price of A7 BODY $1,698.00, which may drop to as they usually do soon after release,it is very tempting. I think for wide angle landscape work & portraits/street work it would be perfect to compliment the K5II,for the longer focal lengths. from what I read its easy to adapt K mount and even DA lenses to Sony E mount. Lack of IBIS would not be an issue for wide angle work at all, as low light sensitivity is increased. Any thoughts on this?? as may be long time before Pentax gets their FF out.
I might consider it if it proves advantageous in some way or another.
Though as it stands I can't think of anything I'd need to justify the purchase. Maybe size?

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Landscape photos!! where one wants max detail..that's what I will use it for..so IBIS AF is not really needed...and can fit in my coat pocket while my K5II is around my neck
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Landscape photos!! where one wants max detail...and can fit in my coat pocket
In my humble opinion, a Sigma DP1 or DP2 Merrill would probably do the same job, for less $$ ...
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With the good effort put into the K3, the hopes of a Pentax FF is the highest ever (hmm.. does sound familiar,,, )
To me, no harm waiting out the next 6mths to see what happens in the first quarter of 2014.
The Pentax will be the one that works properly with those lenses (ie.AF, A mode), so I'm willing to wait.


The A7 would be a good addition to the market in case FF never comes for Pentax.


However, if one does not have many legacy FF lenses, then the current batch of FF DSLRs as well as well priced 2nd hand ones provide good options as well.
If one only wanted FF regardless of specs, the 5D is at very good prices.
If megapixels and FF, irregardless of other factors, the 5DII
If its FF performance not regarding megapixels, the the venerable D700 is a good camera.
The newer FF cameras offer a bit more for higher prices, so it all depends on budget.

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I'd rather get a D700 if I needed proven AF performance, rather than possibly pedestrian AF on a A7. (maybe)

As for the comment on landscape quality, I agree with Rawr, the DPxm series of cameras is really hard to beat for the price, size/weight and the performance.
Its often matched against a D800E with the best lenses (a ~$6000 beast)
Not that I believe in any advantage of FF for landscapes anyway. (less dof for same fov, YES)

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As for the comment on landscape quality, I agree with Rawr, the DPxm series of cameras is really hard to beat for the price, size/weight and the performance.
Its often matched against a D800E with the best lenses (a ~$6000 beast)
Not that I believe in any advantage of FF for landscapes anyway. (less dof for same fov,

I have seen what the D800 can do and the detail is amazing..never saw/tried the Sigma, but maybe worth a look..would like 24mm prime on FF..like I used in the 'old' days with film
less DOF? same FOV a 24 is about 35mm on APS C F4 5.6 all is in focus for many shots
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QuoteOriginally posted by rawr Quote
In my humble opinion, a Sigma DP1 or DP2 Merrill would probably do the same job, for less $$ ...
If you want a fixed lens and iso limited to 400iso max . Also the widest version has a 28mm FF eqiv and many use 12-24mm full frame lenses when shooting landscape.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77238303@N00/7560494974/in/photolist-cw6vKC-fB9...-cVNTfu-goXAcR
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8519118@N06/9532660180/in/photolist-fwnnL1-efA1...-dxZhZS-e4em16

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=D800E+14MM&s=int

D800E @14mm F2.8 3200iso:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/77238303@N00/7539976934/in/photolist-cuhmsj-gi9...-dNnUWv-dvHX3Q

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With the current rumored specs and details I'll preorder this A7r 100% sure.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jogiba Quote
If you want a fixed lens and iso limited to 400iso max . Also the widest version has a 28mm FF eqiv and many use 12-24mm full frame lenses when shooting landscape.
Although it may have some operational limitations as a camera, by all accounts IQ and detail can be excellent in the DP1M.

I think you are also missing something important about the D800E vs the DP1M, especially as an outdoors, hiking-to-the-scene type of camera:
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I plan on getting one by end of 2014...

I will say that I am disappointed that the EVF is the same from the NEX 6/7 and not bumped up in resolution. Maybe the next model or the ILC7000 will have this?

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I feel sorry for the guys carrying their D800 kit where I go.

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And 1:1 crop... you can't get this clean an image on any bayer image.



Close to D800 IQ in a 14 MP file.... impossible to imagine if you haven't seen it.
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Although it may have some operational limitations as a camera, by all accounts IQ and detail can be excellent in the DP1M.

I think you are also missing something important about the D800E vs the DP1M, especially as an outdoors, hiking-to-the-scene type of camera:


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