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11-04-2013, 03:28 PM - 1 Like   #16
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"Retro" and "less functions" means expensive. I guess it's so cheap because only the top part is retro, and only video was removed.

11-04-2013, 03:42 PM   #17
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Let's be serious: this is a styling exercise. If the style appeals to you, and you have the pockets for it, then fine. I have the second, but not the first. As I said in another thread, this is a typical old-school Nikon styling bulldog: I'd prefer a Pentax greyhound, but if they never make one, I'd not be that fussed. Styling-wise, the Olympus OM-D series have greater appeal, even if they don't have the big sensor.
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... I'd prefer a Pentax greyhound.
You have a K-5? You don't know how slow your "greyhound" focuses compared to the bulldog family if you have not owned one.

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You have a K-5? You don't know how slow your "greyhound" focuses compared to the bulldog family if you have not owned one.
I was referring to styling and size, not performance. I do know the difference in AF speed, and it doesn't often affect me. Metaphors are fraught, aren't they?
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Be Careful What You Wish For?

Is it me, or does this camera look way too busy? I quick-count at least 20 knobs or buttons and another 1/2 dozen dials/switches. This is retro? And what's with that towering Photomic finder? What's in there? Maybe it was designed by a committee, listening to the same type of fan-geezers (not 'boys' anymore, not by 50 years) we have here, who demand a digital K1000, MX, LX, etc. Be careful what you wish for!
"Let's see, they want an ISO dial, no problem, check. Shutter speed dial, Check. EV Comp on a dial? Check. Mode dial with minimal choices, that's retro, right? Check. Film advance lever? Ummm, maybe not, we'll get back to you on that. This is modeled after a film camera, right? No video, it's for the 'old school' crowd. Check. No built-in flash, Check. Hot Shoe, Check. OH, wait, here's someone who suggested an old plunger-style cable release! Great Idea! Checko. Wait! Zebra colors!!! Check."
All of which is NOT to say it's a looming sale disaster. No, there's probably enough fanboy/girl/geezer spendy trendy hipster wannabes to put this on the map for a couple of months, a darling of the (new) Dodge Challenger/leased Porsche crowd, Vroom, Vroom, got my retro Nikon, sing along with Paul Simon's 'Kodachrome' real loud, eat dust, Canon, never grow old, $2700 bucks to feel young again? A bargain.
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I was referring to styling and size, not performance. I do know the difference in AF speed, and it doesn't often affect me. Metaphors are fraught, aren't they?
Yes they are. But the new K-3 should be convincing enough as see here on PF. Everyone I've seen that has told me that AF was no big deal is clamoring over the AF speed of the K-3 now. I think it's the #1 feature people want bad.

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OH, wait, here's someone who suggested an old plunger-style cable release! Great Idea!
Funny stuff!! That old style cable release is such an affectation. They might as well put a four-inch long sprocket-holed leader on their memory cards too. Might as well bundle the camera with Viagra discounts.

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Deja vu

I used to own an FM2 and and two FE2's. I loved those cameras. But the fact of the matter is that the newer cameras have a MUCH better interface and better handling. I would not want to go back in time. I find the K-3 to be far more interesting than the Df. I may be nostalgic at times, but I am not stupid. In this case newer is better, in almost every respect.

I wish Nikon well, but personally I am not tempted in the least--in spite of my long history with Nikon film cameras.

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Yes they are. But the new K-3 should be convincing enough as see here on PF. Everyone I've seen that has told me that AF was no big deal is clamoring over the AF speed of the K-3 now. I think it's the #1 feature people want bad.
Well, indeed. There's nothing so queer as folk. For me, it's a nice-to-have. I guess if I was shooting BIF or action sports, I'd want it badly, too. Beats me how I ever got on with MF.

In any event, I still don't find the Df that visually attractive but I'm sure it'll work for those who do.

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Funny stuff!! That old style cable release is such an affectation. They might as well put a four-inch long sprocket-holed leader on their memory cards too. Might as well bundle the camera with Viagra discounts.

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Ooh! Literally below the belt, that one! (Says the man who'll never need a four-inch long sprocket-holed leader...)
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QuoteOriginally posted by rbefly Quote
Is it me, or does this camera look way too busy? I quick-count at least 20 knobs or buttons and another 1/2 dozen dials/switches. This is retro? And what's with that towering Photomic finder? What's in there? Maybe it was designed by a committee, listening to the same type of fan-geezers (not 'boys' anymore, not by 50 years) we have here, who demand a digital K1000, MX, LX, etc. Be careful what you wish for!
"Let's see, they want an ISO dial, no problem, check. Shutter speed dial, Check. EV Comp on a dial? Check. Mode dial with minimal choices, that's retro, right? Check. Film advance lever? Ummm, maybe not, we'll get back to you on that. This is modeled after a film camera, right? No video, it's for the 'old school' crowd. Check. No built-in flash, Check. Hot Shoe, Check. OH, wait, here's someone who suggested an old plunger-style cable release! Great Idea! Checko. Wait! Zebra colors!!! Check."
All of which is NOT to say it's a looming sale disaster. No, there's probably enough fanboy/girl/geezer spendy trendy hipster wannabes to put this on the map for a couple of months, a darling of the (new) Dodge Challenger/leased Porsche crowd, Vroom, Vroom, got my retro Nikon, sing along with Paul Simon's 'Kodachrome' real loud, eat dust, Canon, never grow old, $2700 bucks to feel young again? A bargain.
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I agree, the top of the camera seems a bit busy. It's more bulky than I expected it to be, which is a little discouraging to me personally. Still, I think this camera will sell very well as it'll win the hearts of die-hard Nikon users. Pentax should have done this with a digital version of the K1000, but I guess they were too busy merging with Ricoh to do that

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Well, indeed. There's nothing so queer as folk. For me, it's a nice-to-have. I guess if I was shooting BIF or action sports, I'd want it badly, too. Beats me how I ever got on with MF.

In any event, I still don't find the Df that visually attractive but I'm sure it'll work for those who do.
I still shoot film cameras. Your manual film camera takes the picture in real-time immediately when you push the shutter button. Push-click. Some DSLRs today, push-lag-click. That's what I'm talking about. That lag in the shutter button is not the same feel as a film camera even whereas a snappy DSLR goes push-click.

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I may be nostalgic at times, but I am not stupid.
+1

I wonder whether you'd be able to buy mechanical "plunger-style" extension cables for that shutter release if you need a bit more distance. And how a radio-controlled shutter release will interface with the camera when you need a lot more distance.

Now there could be an additional electronic socket on the camera to allow remote shutter release but why then have the plunger mechanics as well?
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$2750 for camera and a standard prime... NO video capability what-so-ever. This would be PERFECT for me when I go to my local coffee house to type on my mechanical typewriter... I don't understand why anyone would buy this instead of the D800 (heck, almost enough for the E)... Is the "retro" style really worth THAT much?
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