Photototo IMO, sums up the problems of the A7/r very well in his review :
Photototo: Sony Alpha A7 (ILCE-7) and Sony Alpha A7r (ILCE-7r) Part 9 - Final Showdown
No camera is perfect.
Its just getting the info and weighting if it affects you as the user.
To me, the A7 is the best camera for MF lenses at this point in time (warts and all)
1. Auto ISO changing when thumb wheel is nudged (it sits where your cheek rests).
>> Yes its like this, but it can be customized to another button
2. Lenses stop focusing and you need to take them off, take off the adapter, turn the camera off, turn it on, then it works for a few more shots.
>> No comment; not using AF adapters and seldom use the only AF lens I have for A7.
3. To review an image, you have to zoom into the image to a pixel level, then spend a lifetime zooming out to the desired level.
>> A bit silly, yes and there are lots of such little silliness in the A7/r that give me the impression that Sony knows how to make good tech, but not well thought out cameras.
4. The menu button is the size of an electron.
>> Ok to me; But my hands are small
5. It confused shutter priority with aperture priority. Set it to A, it lets you adjust the shutter, not the aperture - sometimes.
>> Perhaps his camera had issues
6. The battery life is shit!
>> Indeed so if using AF lenses with Wifi and pre-AF turned on. (close to 3hrs if not less); and poor battery discipline
I use purely MF lenses at batt lasts 5-6hrs.
7. The firmware updates from Sony are useless. Lucky if they fix anything remotely problematic.
>> Agree.
8. Bracketing is limited to 3.
>> And it its sillier than that. Its in rigid options of 3 frames of 1ev or 2ev (no in-betweens) . 5 frames of 1ev (which ends up to be the same as 3 frames 2ev... duh... )
As I said, good tech, not well thought out photographically
9. Menu system is awful and stolen from point and shoot camera. Important stuff is buried deep within the menus, superfluous stuff is in the top level.
>> Works ok to me (every brand camera menu is a clunk of stuff
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10. No battery charger, usb cable to camera (so can't use camera whilst spare is on charge.
>> Yes; Have to get a 3rd party one on ebay
11. The metering of this camera is a pure guess (one moment it guesses 1/20th, then 1/500th).
>> Metering is good in fact.
Its again the lack of attention to detail photographically speaking that Sony decides that the camera should prefer 1/60 as a default shutter speed if the camera can afford to do it .
12. Only 1 SD slot (its already killed 2 SD cards).
>> Er... just get more cards? Never had and issue.
I hate putting all my eggs in one basket (or SD card) anyway, in case it got corrupted, lost, damaged on a tour.
13. Needs an adapter to use any lens of worth.
>> FE lenses are fine, though limited in range
14. The adapter is huge!
>> So was any DSLR with that adapter built in.
15. Startup time from cold is 4 seconds (even with firmware update).
>> Yes, not too good here.
16. AF is bad!
>> Its ok in good light.
Can go for the wrong thing if its contrast is higher though.
Originally posted by chezpentax Some comments below by a dissatisfied A7R user - You guys share many of these concerns?
"Finally Giving Up on Sony A7r
Right, Ive had enough of this bloody camera and its going; Ive decided. Having shot around 800 photos this weekend and come home to find half of them blurry, Ive decided enough is enough and Im getting shot of it. There are so many problems with this camera that using it is so arduous that I simply cannot use it anymore without throwing the damn thing out of the window.
Sony, in their infinite wisdom, have decided to put the ISO dial on a little thumb wheel that is unbelievably loose that any slight wind will turn it and adjust your ISO. When working in low light, like I do for most of my shots, and working in aperture priority, the Auto-ISO setting is invaluable. Whats right next to auto? 50. So, I set my aperture to say f8, then my shutter and ISO adjust to get the right exposure. Sounds great, but there is no way of telling the stupid camera that you want your minimum shutter to be, say 1/60th. So, when you nudged the wheel one click to the right, it changes to ISO 50 with a shutter of around 1/10th. Problem is, with such a clunky shutter, 1/10th sounds no different to 1/100th. I don't have the time to use the c2 button to zoom all the way into the centre of the photo and then thumb scroll out in order to check its sharpness, so I just keep shooting - only to get home and find out yet another shoot was ruined by this awful camera. The last three or so shoots have been ruined, with barely 50% of the images usable from a sharpness perspective. But thats not the only problem with this camera, here is a list!!!
1. Auto ISO changing when thumb wheel is nudged (it sits where your cheek rests).
2. Lenses stop focusing and you need to take them off, take off the adapter, turn the camera off, turn it on, then it works for a few more shots.
3. To review an image, you have to zoom into the image to a pixel level, then spend a lifetime zooming out to the desired level.
4. The menu button is the size of an electron.
5. It confused shutter priority with aperture priority. Set it to A, it lets you adjust the shutter, not the aperture - sometimes.
6. The battery life is shit!
7. The firmware updates from Sony are useless. Lucky if they fix anything remotely problematic.
8. Bracketing is limited to 3.
9. Menu system is awful and stolen from point and shoot camera. Important stuff is buried deep within the menus, superfluous stuff is in the top level.
10. No battery charger, usb cable to camera (so can't use camera whilst spare is on charge.
11. The metering of this camera is a pure guess (one moment it guesses 1/20th, then 1/500th).
12. Only 1 SD slot (its already killed 2 SD cards).
13. Needs an adapter to use any lens of worth.
14. The adapter is huge!
15. Startup time from cold is 4 seconds (even with firmware update).
16. AF is bad!
it takes breathtaking images; but its unusable and those images are rare. Rare in the sense that you have no idea whether its going to be usable or not. This camera is a point and shoot with a professional sensor. Yes, it can work, but its a lottery.
Im not keeping the Sony, its simply not up to the task of a photo shoot. Its a holiday camera, and should be aimed at the consumer level. It simply has cut too many corners to give you such great images in such a small body. I should have known this, but was taken in by the hype.
Seriously disappointed by this camera!
However, when it works, they images are beautiful and those Zeiss lenses...oh I will miss those!"